The Meaning of Hx17

elph · Mar 15, 2004

Dear All

I have been experiencing a lot of internal change recently, i wont go in to detail but spiritually i feel like im being turned upside down. For this reason i asked the Yi "what is happening to me?" I was given the response Hx17, 6.2 and 9.4. Any input as to what this may mean would be gladly accepted.

thanx

candid · Mar 16, 2004

Hi Elph, umm, will try this in a nutshell format, according to how I read the changes.

You are trying too hard to attain whatever it is you're trying to attain, pressing too far too hard. Cool your jets and let it come to you. The time isn't yet right for the rain to fall.

Make sense?

C

elph · Mar 16, 2004

Thanks Candid

That does make some sense, but it really isnt me thats pushing any of this. I honestly am on the receiving end of all that is happening. I dont feel that it is right time for the rain to fall either but it is starting to pour and i am getting drenched!

thanx

candid · Mar 16, 2004

Elph,

How familiar are you with the Yi? Reason I ask is that it helps to interpret for someone according to their depth of understanding so as not to be redundant.

Also, not to pry but it does help to have at least a little background pertaining to the question.

C

elph · Mar 16, 2004

Candid,

I am quite new to the yi, should have metioned... sorry.

K, background. i feel quite sensitive putting it up here cause recent events have really moved me. Also some things i dont think i can articulate, more of a sense of (quite drastic) change but cant quite place it though.

Had alot of strange things occurring recently. Had a guy walk in off the street into my shop where i was working + proceed to inform me that he was a yogi and then went on and told me things about me only i should have known, not gonna disclose too much but it shook me a bit. Also said that who/what i have tried to reach does listen but my mind lacks focus (described it as a butterfly) and also said that my heart is good and pure but often my mind is too negative.

Other things starting being able to dream completely lucidly and in be in control when previously i would never even remember my dreams.

Not sure if im making much sense, imagine it comes accross a bit like ramble. But it is the best i can do, words are very clumsy things some times!

Elph

candid · Mar 16, 2004

Elph,

Yes, words can be clumsy indeed, but its mostly what we have to work with here.

This sounds really interesting. If it were not for your dreams corresponding with this "yogi's" appearance, I'd be more inclined to blow it off. But the synchronism in dreams and it's emotional impact on you would suggest to me that there is really something happening here.

17 for me has seemed to deal with sub/unconscious developments, which can lead to further understanding.

It seems the confusion enters when you drew 6, conflict or contention. Might this correspond with the yogi's comment regarding what he called your negative attitude? In theory, they aren't so different. Also this inner turmoil you're experiencing could be what 6 is about. 9 speaks to growing tension with relief being found only in small, seemingly insignificant things.

This isn't very clear to me though, to be perfectly honest. It seems jumbled and inconsistent.

Think if it were me, based on 17, I'd follow and see where it leads, but I'd let it come to me rather than try to nail down a finite answer.

Good luck on the journey. Please let us know how things unfold concering the readings. I, for one, am very curious.

C

cal val · Mar 16, 2004

Elph...

I just went through that. Am still going through that.

It wasn't a yogi... just an everyday normal person in the crowd who was incredibly psychic and who yelled at me from a distance that my "travel vibe" hit her hard as soon as I opened the door between us. She then proceeded to tell me things about myself and someone I know that only I/we could know. She saw right through me. She saw right through him. She then told me about my future... a beautiful future... the future I only dreamed of.

Almost a year later because my "comfortable" life as it was then began to disintegrate, I traveled toward the life I wanted... or thought I wanted. I stopped half way there to "rest"... and, through circumstances, "got stuck" in a dying town.

And then the changes started.

First I decided to let the Yi guide me because I was making a mess of my life trying to do it on my own. I simply wanted the Yi to help me make better decisions. I wasn't asking to be stripped down to my soul. As a result of that decision, I found my way to this forum... just like you have... *grin*

Soon after that, the dreams started. I was visited in my dreams by "sages"... men in drab clothing... greyish robes... standing around (I call them "men in grey")... who showed me how the universe works... fate and destiny... a map of events coming together, intersecting at the apppointed place in the appointed time... and telling me it's important for me to understand this... over and over again... morning after morning... until I finally believed them. And then the very difficult part of the journey which I did not ask for began. They came back and took me inside myself. Turned me inside out... painfully. In steps, they took me to where my fears were hiding... were they were rooted... from where they did their damage to my life.

I am now on probably the scariest part of the journey... having been through the most painful part. I am manifesting the inner changes outwardly. I'm up early this morning making a list of the "things" that represent my old life that I want to shed. I have started selling off my old life... lots of beautiful "things" that I treasured... that I gladly let go now to make room for the new.

It's like the universe closed the door on me when I got here and forced me to go through these changes, and now the door is wide open again. There is a path out there now... a very narrow dangerous path at the top of a precipice that I have to tread...treacherous terrain... and at the end of that path is a welcome mat, a warm wholesome meal, my family and a lot of love... and the future that stranger told me about not so long ago. It's all within my sight now.

Elph, I find it interesting that two people, you and I, with similar experiences managed to find our way to the same forum on the vast internet. I suspect it's events intersecting at the appointed place in the appointed time. I won't be here much. Much to do now that the time of keeping still has passed and the time for action has come... but, if they can be of any value to you, there are many posts here in this forum that document my journey thus far.

And I'll be back eventually. I'm very curious to see where your journey into change takes you. My thoughts are with you on your journey.

Love,

Val

cal val · Mar 16, 2004

Candid...

WOW! Your most recent post wasn't there when I started mine. I took awhile. I was working on my list at the same time. And then after I hit post I saw it and read it.

How absolutely perfect that it precedes mine. How absolutely synchronous.

Elph...

You're on your way. Part of your path has been paved right here. The journey of change may be rough and rocky, but I have no doubt the end will be worth it. I must run now! My window of opportunity is very small. Time is of the essence. I must move now! There are imminent dangers if I dawdle. I'll be back for updates on your journey, and I'll update you on mine.

Love,

Val

elph · Mar 16, 2004

Val

Thank you...Much luck and love, you sound well on your way

Candid

Thank you for your insights. Although the yi is helpful at the moment, answers to my questions just keep leading to more questions. Your help is so much appreciated.

Dont think i explained the Hx i received properly, i used the wrong notation.. Im finding all this quite tricky at the moment. But practise makes perfect!

Any way.. by 6.2 i really meant 17.2: a changing 6 at line 2, If one clings to the little boy. One loses the strong man....erm if i stick to what i am now and not ackowledge these changes i miss the oppotunity of becoming something better (?)

17.4, changing 9 at 4th... Following creates success...To go one's way with sincerity brings clarity... refers to the way i act toward these changes (?)

More of your thoughts please.

I also asked the yi for advice on the best course of action. Replied Hx19 changing 9 at 2nd... seemed to imply positive progress but also making the most of this time.... 9 at 2nd Joint approach. Good fortune... does this mean literally progressing with the aid of someone else?

Much gratitude
Elph

candid · Mar 16, 2004

Hi Elph, yes that does clarify (and change) the picture. If I understand correctly that would be expressed as 17. 2, 4, 6, which then changes to 61, Inner Truth.

So let's eliminate the conflict aspect of my interpretation and the waiting in small things.

Given these changes, it now makes much more sense with greater continuity. So does 19.2, Approach, which by the way changes to 24, Return.

This all appears to be a positive movement for you, and I believe your intuition is following correctly.

Sorry, but I won't be able to respond on this board for a few hours, so if you have more questions please be patient for a response.

Take care,

C

elph · Mar 16, 2004

Candid, i made it 17.2,4, changing to 60 Limitation.

Sorry about all this confusion, i will get there at some point. Is it usually this difficult starting to talk with the yi?

Any thoughts on the 19.2 Joint apprach reply? Could the yi be referring to my progression with the yi itself now by my side?

Patiently waiting (good things come to those who do lol)

Elph

candid · Mar 16, 2004

Elf, errm, ok now line 6 becomes 60, Limitation.

Yes, its at this point mainly a matter of explaining what your actual reading is, but I think we've got it now.

I'm still not able to devote the time this deserves, writing here on my lunch break, so again this will have to be brief.

17, as we've discussed, means to follow this influence presenting itself to you at this time. An affirmation of sorts to what you're already doing, seeking truth through following universal influences or truths.

60 is about ordering these influences and limiting extremes, keeping a clear perspective.

19 heralds the approach to positive changes as if sanctioned from above. 19.2 means that you are not working through this alone but have able assistants. This could apply to the help you're receiving here, but its also a coordination between that which leads and that which follows within yourself, or within your spiritual influences, such as possibly the yogi and your dreams.

This changes to 24, Return. This is a drawing of energies inward, a sort of resting/processing place, like the winter solstice. It is returning to yourself, and it includes a sense of detachment from the whirling images confronting you.

Hope this helps. Gotta fly.

C

candid · Mar 16, 2004

Doh! I meant, minus line 6 this means - etc. (top of my last post)

elph · Mar 16, 2004

Candid

Thank you again, i really appreciate your help and input.

An opptimistic time then, i only hope i can enter this change with sufficent awareness to maximise the outcome. With help like i've received i'm sure this will be possible.

I look forward to the possibilities and again express my gratitude.

Many Thanx

Elph

candid · Mar 16, 2004

Elph,

Its my pleasure to assist. As you no doubt have seen there are many on this board with insight and knowledge. Each brings with them a specialty of background and aptitude. Great folks. Hope you stick around and grow with the rest of us.

C

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