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Your lives do fit together as this hex does indeed show, but at the moment he seems more dependent on your goodwill and charity, as you have been very helpful and supportive to him and obviously he is very pleased about that.question: Where and how do our lives fit together, if they do?
I got 35, unchanging
What do I need to understand about this relationship? I got hexagram 14.6 changing to 34.
So I asked, What are the chances of hearing further from him if I make no more supportive effort? I got hexagram 64, changing lines 2 -- becoming hexagram 16.
So I asked the question, When he returns, will he actively pursue a relationship with me?.....and got Hexagram 44 unchanging.
SO, I asked I Ching, was discussing my marriage a good idea? And I got Hexgram 8, unchanging. I understand if you get this casting, you must enquire again, which I did and got hexgram 38, changing line 3, becoming hexagram 14.
Trust and love are the super glue of the universe, well his universe.I asked, as a follow up "What should I use for the super glue that WF has recommended." Hexagram 37. 5, becoming 22.
Then I got totally carried away and asked, "WHEN will he decide to have this relationship with me?" And I got Hexagram 50. 4,5, and 6, becoming hexagram 42.
First don't think you are an amatuer..there isn't anyone here more skilled than you are in building and understanding your own relationships....and hes even more of an expert in his own feelings. Do you have any good reason to think he wants the kind of relationship with you that you want with him ?Sigh of relief, Willow Fox. It was sounding dire from what I could "divine." As you have said, short and to the point, and you read them all in a positive way, which I'm happy and surprised to know. I love the images you use, making your reading even more precise.
Could I ask, please, what sort of different interpretation you put on Hexagram 44. Is it really just about attraction? It sounds a bit "low life" when you read the text in Wilhelm and I thought pretty alarming.
Your perceptions of the man in question, by the way, are dead on. He is a high flying, risk taker in business and has done very well. But at home he's a lover of security and stability and obviously hates to see any of that scenery change. And you couldn't be more gentlemanly proper than he is.
I asked, as a follow up "What should I use for the super glue that WF has recommended." I didn't know if IChing would take me seriously and answer this metaphorical question, but I got Hexagram 37, moving line 5, becoming 22.
Then I got totally carried away and asked, "WHEN will he decide to have this relationship with me?" And I got Hexagram 50, changing lines 4,5, and 6, becoming hexagram 42.
To an amateur, this sounds like he's dumped his emotions out on the ground, all of the past, and is actively sorting and putting it to rest. Which sounds accurate. But does it have any elements of "when" there is a resolution to go forward? Are "when" questions ok in your experience? I've heard mixed reactions to those enquiries: some who apppear to think you can read for "when" and others who say it's impossible.
Firstly, you can ask what you like, and your question about a date is perfectly valid but just rather difficult to pinpoint."When is he going to see my true worth to him as a partner?" and got Hexagram 48, unchanging.
Hexagram 21, changing line 6, becoming 51.
About this question, its a question thats based on the assumption that at some point in time he is going to realise the value of the reationship...well realising the value of the relationship is a subjective thing..its not like at 8.30 pm on March 23rd his brain is going to go 'ping' and he realises the value of the relationship. And anyway who can quantify what the value of the relationshp is anyway..it doesn't have any measurable objective value. Its just a question that i think it would be very hard to interpret the answer toI've pondered this overnight Willow Fox since, as you can imagine, this still leaves endless room for him to go on and on, which I'm not interested in doing -- at least not consciously. I don't think I can do it. So I'm looking for where we reach a point of certainty.
Following on your premise of him knowing my worth to him in any illuminating way, I asked "When is he going to see my true worth to him as a partner?" and got Hexagram 48, unchanging. Which sounds to me like I just have to wait and see and continue to be the endless source until a big hand comes from the sky and bapps him on the noggin.
I don't know if this is a fair question for the IChing, or not, but trying to be even more specific I then asked "In what month is he going to realise the value of our relationship?" Maybe IChing was reacting to me, rather than the question itself, because the answer was in turbulent terms:
Hexagram 21, changing line 6, becoming 51. Does that point to a month, or to me being told off for a question couched in such demanding terms?
I haven't followed your story, just read this thread so its true I'm not so aware of the background.I also appreciate your interest in the "saga" that has gone on here Trojan, and hearing your point of view. Your concern that I'm not just deluding myself has been my own worry from the start.
And I have enquired earlier on does he want a romantic relationship and does he want that with me -- both answered in the affirmative. So I am going on the premise now that he could recover in months, or in years, but he will gather himself at some point. The question is "when?" Because presumably this bond that we have as friends is important to him, as it is to me. That much the IChing has confirmed consistently.
No, to be fair I cannot say that because i haven't paid enough attention to your previous readings on other threads. I guess i was just throwing in a rather generalised warning at this point. Its not that I can see you won't have a relationship or anything like that...I'm just saying it goes beyond counting how many people think they follow positive signals re romance from their answers..and then 6 months down the line when what they thought would happen hasn't happened they say 'why did the I Ching lie to me'.Obviously where opinions are utterly opposed, one of the opinions must be wrong. It would appear here that you are saying 21.6 is telling me that either there is no relationship,or that I haven't been listening or paying attention and for whatever reason, I am in for a shock. This was my very fear in the first place, that I'd misinterpreted what his interest was about AND what his reticence was about. Because he is both in turns. So if this is your reading, it doesn't shock me in the least.
you didn't waste any time there then did you...that will teach me to make suggestions like that ! But 15 twice !?OK, for starters on this new wavelength, I asked the question suggested by Trojan --
"How should I interpret his inviting XXXXX to join us?" And the IChing gave me hexagram 15, changing lines 1,3,4, which becomes hexagram 51. So we're demonstrating good manners, but somehow coming right back to shock. The same place that 21.6 took us. Hmmmm.
The starting place here is integrity then, being careful of how you come across socially? That sounds like him. Above all, he is very mannerly and generally proper. So where does SHOCK come in?
To make life even more exciting, I followed this question with, "Why didn't he tell me in the beginning that another person was invited?" Good grief, Hexagram 15 yet again, changing line 3, becoming Hexagram 2. Right.
Not that it's crystal clear to me, but i just have to laugh seeing this result so far. On this basis, asking small questions, I bet nearly EVERY ONE begins with hexagram 15. Proper gentleman coping with unthinkable conditions in his life. Really interesting to see it so blatantly.
Love to hear other interpretations of how this new method of enquiry has turned out so far.
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