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My oldest son and his wife are totally opposed to me being a 'reader' and have told me I'm satanic etc. as have others of the Christian faith - I would appreciate it very much if those of you do know where exactly in the Bible it quotes and says things about astrologers, diviners etc. because I would so love to be able to quote things next time a Christian gets in my face - thanks, Liss
 

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[video=youtube;Xn7rIarpQBk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Xn7rIarpQBk#t=4[/video]
 
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My oldest son and his wife are totally opposed to me being a 'reader' and have told me I'm satanic etc. as have others of the Christian faith - I would appreciate it very much if those of you do know where exactly in the Bible it quotes and says things about astrologers, diviners etc. because I would so love to be able to quote things next time a Christian gets in my face - thanks, Liss

Just ask them how they chose Judas' replacement as an apostle. (Acts 1:23-26)
 

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Dear Trojan

Thankyou for the 'video - or whatever you like to call it. In my view - for whatever it's worth.. God, to me is everywhere. Inside all of us. I liken It to a room filled with steam - everything becomes saturated nothing escapes the steam. I used to be a 'good' catholic but now religion is a nonsense to me. If God did not want us to know about Astrology, Spiritualism. I Ching, he/she would not have allowed us to meet it. I think our interest in the hijacked plane is down to love - for all the people 'lost' for all the people bereaved. and for us to use our intuition, curiosity to find out the truth. We should not just forget, dismiss it as 'none of our business'. Everything is 'our business'
Love to all, especially to Tange4
 

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To godessliss, Don't worry, my eldest says I am a witch. But he loves me anyway. XX
 
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From the moment the Malaysia military announced their radar had picked up blips of an aircraft moving in a different direction from the point the transponder stopped communicating, I have suspected that Flight 370 had been hijacked and have hoped it was landed somewhere safely where the passengers were able to get food and water and survive. So much that happened seemed deliberate.

The hijacking theory having been confirmed last night, I asked the Yi if any of the passengers would survive, and the answer was 48.2.

Ugh. The first thing that came to mind... because the image pretty much hit me in the face... is that they're sleeping with the fishes. The vessel/jug/pitcher/bucket/plane broke in the water and the fishes got in. My heart sank.

Holding out hope, I've tried to find a more positive interpretation, such as the Yi knows but won't tell me (the water in the well is clear, but it is not used). Has anyone else asked, and, if so, what answer did you get?

I haven't asked but found in your thread a beautifull chance to see in which manner the I responded on a concrete situtation ie when this "mystery" has been solved we can go back lookin at hex 48 second Nine for a closer examination...
The nuclear hexagram is 38 (Kui) and Alfred Huang (page 150 in the pdf-edition) states on this: "..... The original meaning of kui was 'eyes do not look at each other', indicating that peoples's lines of vision are different. There is diversity among them....." [The complete I Ching, Inner Traditions, cop. 1998] In my opinion the mutual hexagram shows what the I is reflecting on: in this case Your bewilderness about what to believe in all of this mess, hijacking, sudden accidentical crash.... and - maybe - funny enough this thread underlines "that peoples lines of vision are different".

It shall be interesting to see the fact on the examination of this thread.
 
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Hi svenrus
Re- Nuclear Hex.38. - I asked 'Y' "What better way is there to find the missing plane? and received
Hex 38.2,6 - 51 "there is disunity making it very difficult to achieve anything worthwhile; this conflict is only temporary though, harmony will eventually be restored but keep your sights set low and try to find common ground. Remain optimistic in the face of challenges ahead, remembering that opposition will eventually be superseded by harmony.
Line 2 says "One meets one's Lord in a side street - no error
Line 6 says "One is solitary in the prevailing disunity. One seems to see a pig bearing a load of mud on it's back or a carriage full of ghosts. One sees an enemy but then realises that it isn't an enemy but a near relative. One shall meet with genial rain, there will be good fortune. The book I read this in is called "The I Ching" but there is no author mentioned. Or whose interpration it is.
I suppose this could mean that the plane and its occupants are gone to Heaven. BUT there is a saying "Everything happens for eventual good" so perhaps we should hold on to that thought
Hex 51 is interesting too but I can't write about it just now. I wonder what you can see in it.
 
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Re- Nuclear Hex.38. - I asked 'Y' "What better way is there to find the missing plane? and received
Hex 38.2,6 - 51.......... - ............I wonder what you can see in it.

Dear meigga,

I'm not going to answer Your question simply because I have but only little interest in that airplane and what happened to it. Not hereby said that I'm totally cold concerning the event. Yet You may think that I'm cold in that I - concerning this thread - see an opportunity to examine the I out of what actually had and will happen and the different interpretations layed out of those - especially hex 48.2 - hexagrams answering this event..... But I don't feel cold as I have no relation, personal I mean, to it as a whole.

On the contrary I will try to hang on to reality about it and wait seeing what actually is going to happen around this in the nearby future - if any such is given - and if possible compare that to the readings in this thread.

A book without an author ???

Anyway thanks very much for Your reply :)
 
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Like this.

Thinks.....if God is 'perfect', then there can be no room for growth and development; if God is 'imperfect', then he is indeed on 'the road to wherever'-- like the rest of us.
What is 'perfect' might be said, therefore, to be 'dead'; only that which is 'alive' is 'imperfect'.
Just musing.
 
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Never mind the missing plane, the real mystery in this thread is how some people think that lines and hexagrams can mean virtually anything off the top of their heads.

Some interpretations here are beyond belief but this one takes the biscuit:
The answer to 'the mental state of the passengers' 18 .3,6 (corruption) could this not mean that the minds of the passengers have been corrupted by the hijacker? Also some of the passengers could be planning ways and means to overthrow the hijacker.

It is fine by me if people want to debate whether or not the plane was abducted by aliens or whatever other theory but why not just leave the Yi alone :D
 
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Never mind the missing plane, the real mystery in this thread is how some people think that lines and hexagrams can mean virtually anything off the top of their heads.

Can mean and do mean are two different things. Either way, I doubt the Yi lost any sleep over it. chuckle
 

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Ahem are you now wisewoman or nemeanmagic now ?

You can't be both at the same time. Oh and if you are going to be nemeanmagik can I call you nema for short...if wisewoman it's ww, long names are tedious to keep typing
 

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It is written in the ancient texts prior to the birth of the forum in 1971




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I've just got to mention this:

A British reporter who was reporting back from - Australia I think - had the name 'NOAH FISHER'.

Now, given the Hexagram 48's we have had on this query, do you think this too is a message concerning the whereabouts of MH370?

I know this subject is serious but, well, you know, couldn't help but manifest a wry smile.
 

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As far as I am concerned Val's answer of 48.2 may have been addressing her own motives or feelings in asking, or even a comment upon her action of asking. Afterall 48.2 is about squandering energy. At least I would never take someone else's answer on a world situation as the answer, and that is a view I have had since the dawn of time. I don't think any of the other casts probably mean anything either. I think they are all personal answers, probably. I don't mean to inhibit others with that view however but this thread has been crawling along so goddamn long I felt I could say it now.

BTW Val once started a similar thread about the war in 2003....I will post a link but the trouble is a lot of it is unintelligible as there are just lots of this $£$$$$$&&&&.....sort of gobbleydegook symbols that make reading hard, at least for me.

Then she invited everyone to post a cast and Hilary drew up some sort of graph. As I recall it didn't tell us much :confused: will post the ancient link anyway

Here it is from 11 years ago !


http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?2361-To-war-or-not-to-war-that-is-the-question


well at least we have hindsight with that one !!
 
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Chinese satellite spot wreck 22 x 13 meter

Latest: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...lane-debris-in-southern-corridor-9209619.html

Maybe hex. 48.2 has nothing to do with all of this still interesting to follow it up.

An airplane didn't exist in the vocabulary in the time I Ching was composed but a wagon was. An airplane is to be compared with a wagon rather than with a bird. A bird is alive. An airplane is a thing, a transportvehicle just as the wagon is. What I'm trying to say here is that yet an airplane isn't to be found anywhere in the I it's still just something that are used for transport. So one should, today, be able to ask the I about what's happening with the airplane. Val got as mentioned hex 48.2 and whether second nine is into consideration in this reading (following Nanking-rules it isn't) or not the overall picture is the wind/wood under water - wind/wood within, water without - wind/wood comin, water leaving: the Image of the Well. But taking the trigram for water, clouds/The Abysmal is also to take it for the ear; comin to the Well to get water to drink/ comin to the Well to listen and get information..... [ inspired freely from the Shuo Kua or Discussion of the Trigrams ]. I've tried here to justify that one can ask the I about an airplane and get informaion about it's destiny, not to justify whether the I gave information... as I see it there ain't any information to get at all if not (ignoring the Nanking-rule) in second nine of hex 48 and it's evolved hexagram.

I guess this input became a little too wide for me, allready doubting whether it's understandable.... Undskyld !
 
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Perhaps somebody already said this but FWIW my first thought on 48.2 would be a fuel issue that was avoidable. In 48.2 someone is wasteful, not using resources to best advantage, there is a leak, a fuel leak ?

We may never know but as I understand it it is now thought this was not likley a hijack or anything like that but engine failure.
 

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(And btw sorry for the R. Zimmerman-joke, which I can see has been deleted by the admin, or ?)

I deleted it. It is a 'soft delete'. That is, the message stays in the database but is not viewable by non-moderators. I attempted to contact you in order to ask you to delete it because it is an improper personal comment, but your inbox was full. If you appeal to Hilary and can justify the message, then it can be restored. I have been overruled once when I deleted a message I thought was spam but wasn't.
 

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