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bruce_g said:Just as your nic-name implies, a ruler is a king, authority or high official. It isn't context specific, so how it's is applied is largely a matter of subjective reference, i.e. spiritual, political, military, etc.
germanking said:In the Yi, who is the Ruler? Any thoughts?
There are exceptions in the traditional perspective, but the ruler lines are usually 2 or 5 and overall equate with hexagram 29 and a focus on containment/control. Thus 2 is a supervisor, 5 is the court/king etc
08 (line 5, court focus, passive attracting, unconditional - people go to the court not the court to them)
07 (line 2, social structure focus, unconditional - social rules are supplied from the outside, uniformity, structure of command and control)
08 + 07 = 29 general focus on containment/control (water in bottom is containment, water in top is containment doubled and so control)
Since there are three forms of interpretations so each has different aspects to this. (asymmetric form, symmetric form, anti-symmetric(hierarchy) form) - these map to the three best known compass formats of trigrams - Fu Hsi, King Wen, and Family orderings. (the latter covers the hierarchy of worker, supervisor, local lord, minister, king, sage)
wanderer62 said:I live a fairly reclusive life so that when I get a moving line with a ruler in it I interpret it as refering to either my higher nature (which is ever under cultivation) or to God (higher power, Sage,...). ..
Kate
germanking said:In the Yi, who is the Ruler? Any thoughts?
germanking said:In the Yi, who is the Ruler? Any thoughts?
rosada said:I've been intending to keep a diary of who shows up on days when the I Ching refers to The Ancestress, The Prince in Scarlet Kneebands, The Soverign etc. cause I too would like to figure out just what role these characters are playing in my life!
rosada said:So this says to me that the Soverign I could refer to one's own independent Self and The Daughter given in marrage- in my case the I Ching thread - could be something you care very deeply about and are turning over to someone else's care, and that it will work out well
hollis said:For instance, the soverign I married off his younger sister, but did she want to get married to who she was married to? Was she happy? That's just what I am wondering now. Hope I find the answer.
Was she happy?
bruce_g said:That's a very good question.
To be stripped of your rank to marry someone you may not even know, much less love, can not be an entirely easy or happy thing. One attains the blessing (11) only by accepting their destiny and place in the grand scheme.
rosada said:in Wilhelm you may notice that each hexagram has one line that has a circle by it. Is this what you were refering to as "The Ruler"? The lines with the circles are the lines that best sum up the whole feeling of the hexagram.
germanking said:It's a good question but would you do it?
hollis said:how does it, the decison of Soverign I, relate to what I want? Is it my desire? Is it NOT my desire? What is higher than my desire? The only thing I can think of is cause and effect. For instance, the soverign I married off his younger sister, but did she want to get married to who she was married to? Was she happy? That's just what I am wondering now. Hope I find the answer.
hollis said:They seem to be knowlegable about systems, daoist and other,
germanking said:It's a good question but would you do it?
lightofreason said:How much detail do you want?
Chris.
germanking said:As much as you can handle.
germanking said:As much as you can handle.
germanking said:As much as you can handle.
germanking said:As much as you can handle.
heylise said:The fanyao is about waiting with food and drink, so don't fuss about ranks or going far from home or having to adapt to another life. You are destined for something bigger. Or maybe you are the ruler Yi, and you have to put things together, to make them bigger than they are on their own. Whoever you are, your life deserves to be meaningful, so make it such.
LiSe
bruce_g said:Funny you should ask. I got 11.5-5 three days ago, over a personally difficult and troubling matter. I chose to fight it (the marriage or fate) rather than accept it, .
germanking said:My copy of the Yi does not have the circles.
germanking said:What was your particular question in this instance?
What are 'systems'?
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