Thoughts on 3, please?

[kdedeaux4]

Hello

I asked the IC a somewhat "forbidden" question...the type I typically try to steer clear from, but I asked it. Now, I really am clueless about the interpretation in regard to my question/situation.

I'm friends (and more) with quite possibly one of the most amazing human beings I've ever had the pleasure to know. He's significantly younger than I, but that doesn't seem to matter to either of us. We are just a good combination for many reasons and many ways. I've really never had this type of casual fun-loving sexual friendship before. I'll admit, I'm way out of my element for the protocol with such things He has asked me if I'm looking for "more" (I hadn't thought of that prior so I said just that in response, "I don't know. Hadn't thought about that.") and told me to let him know if I do want more between us. Perfect!

Yesterday I texted him and mentioned I had plans with another male friend for tonight, not thinking anything of it really... In the midst of the texts I was also asking him to take a difficult road trip with me (seriously strange and uncomfortable family issues).

Suddenly, he's stopped replying which isn't like him at all! Now, I'm left wondering if the road trip situation bothered him and he doesn't know what to say (it's a *very* weird situation) or if my mention of having plans with another man bothered him. Now, his total silence is bothering me

So, I asked IC how S felt about my having plans for tonight with another friend.
Response: Hexagram 3. 1.2,4 --->47.
I've read everything on these lines and the combination of them that I can find. It seems maybe it bothered him some, but the lines confuse me. And do I focus mostly on line 2 since there are 3 changing lines? (I'm not sure where I read that, but I recall that advice from somewhere that the middle changing line holds the key to IC's reply.

I would be so grateful for any thoughts or insights into this reading. I like him so much as a friend and I might actually want more with him because he's just amazing...so if I've messed this up or inadvertently hurt him, I really want to find a way to correct it. I'd never want to hurt this man for any reason!!

BTW, I'm not totally afraid to ask him this question directly. However, I am a little concerned to do that for fear of making both situations (road trip/family junk and the man friend plans) more confusing because I am so new and naïve to this type of relationship altogether.

I'd really appreciate some more experienced, subjective thoughts on this reading.
Thank you so much!:bows:

 

[taoscopy]

Hello

I asked the IC a somewhat "forbidden" question...the type I typically try to steer clear from, but I asked it.

So, I asked IC how S felt about my having plans for tonight with another friend.

Yes it's forbidden to ask what is going on in other people's brain. For the rest you can ask it and while the Yi has ignored your question about your friend's feelings, you've been given an advice on that matter.

So, what does hexagram 3 represent? Hexagram 3 is the complementary of hexagram 50, which represents a committment, so by itself it represents disengagement, it also represents how to cure a sickness, how to get rid of someone who annoys you.

3 - Remedy

Time will need to be spent. Seek assistance and clarify the situation by identifying the problems.

1 - When others ask for help, if one accepts despite the constraints they will set an example.

2 - One must establish a relationship of trust before others accept.

4 - Someone will receive help if they wait for their turn.
In the making
47 - The embarrassment

Circumstances or appearances play a negative role. Justifying oneself is useless, one will be understood later.
http://taoscopy.com/en/consultation/968678/

Line 1 describes a situation where someone voluntarily accepts constraints to help others. In some cases it can describe slavery.

I think it's about you, that you accept constraints to have multiple partners. The constraint being that you are losing the possibility of enjoying fully a true love. As you can see the Yi does not condemn your attitude because it helps others but points that you are enslaving yourself.


Line 2 is about your friend, he cannot accept the situation described at line 4 without having a lot of confidence in you.

Line 4 is the situation that you are imposing on your friend, to wait for his turn to come.

What is coming is embarrassment for you and for your friend.

 

[kdedeaux4]

Thank you Taoscopy!! I really appreciate this!

To clear up a misconception though, I don't have multiple sex partners. I'm intimate with only the guy I was asking about here...no one else. My plans with another male friend is just a friend I've not seen in a long time - nothing more at all! I apologize if I miscommunicated that in trying to describe it. I have no romantic or intimate inclinations for anyone other than the man's feelings I'm worried about which is why I broke my questions rule to ask IC.

Embarrassment in line 4? Embarrassment for us because of my plans with another friend? I'm totally unclear how meeting up with an old friend could cause either of us embarrassment...?

That said, I do think you're onto something when you say, "The constraint being that you are losing the possibility of enjoying fully a true love." I probably am guilty of that right now...keeping my deep emotions at arms length right now and just trying to enjoy peace and fun. I actually like this guy probably more than I care to admit but that's a huge fear for me right now to give in to that.
Thank you so very much. You've given me a great deal to ponder!

 

[taoscopy]

Sorry for the misunderstanding. It's the "forbidden question" that made me think that.

Maybe line 1 is about your road trip then.

 

[Tim K]

Of course he felt restricted (47), maybe he had some plans but you've interfered (3).
Nothing major had happened, he will be back, he just took a time-out.

It's interesting that .2 and .4 mention horse and carriage disconnected
Probably he wanted to go on a road trip but your plans to spend the evening with another man have confused him.

3.2, Richmond:
No advance. Horse and carriage not connected.
A chaste maiden is wooed but refuses; after ten years she accepts.

Don't wait for ten years though I think a couple of days will be enough. You'll have a talk and this misunderstanding will be forgiven.

 

[kdedeaux4]

Thank you so very much Ashteroid! I really appreciate your insight

If I may, I'd like to ask thoughts on my second question to the IC about this same situation.
I asked, "What is my best course of action at this point with S?"
Reply: 16.4.5 ---<8

The lines in 4 sounds beautiful and much how this friendship feels in my life . Lise says of line 4:

"In everything one does, it is timing which is the most important. The ability to answer to the influences of the moment in time is the key to success, friendships, harmony. To a life in accord with the cosmos. "

Friendships, harmony are two words the come easily to describe the relationship we've been enjoying.

However, then line 5 seems like a warning? Warning me not to enjoy this friendship too much? I really can't understand any of this as a suggested course of action except maybe telling me withholding my heart from this guy may be for the best? So many different takes I've read on this line....hmmm?
Lise says of line 5:

Inspiration will get lost if it is not caught within necessity or difficulty. Creativity will become reality when it comes up against a wall of obstinate matter, of unbelief, loneliness. When everything is too easy, creativity evaporates without crystallizing.

I think IC confuses me most when it gives me two lines which seem to contradict!!

Please help me interpret this?

 

[Tim K]

"What is my best course of action at this point with S?" 16.4.5 → 8
.4 Reunite with him (reinforced by 8)

.5 Is a warning, Richmond:
As we become less aware of what our intuitive feelings are doing we are more likely to be unaware when there is change, when something new arises, so we are more likely to carry on with old feelings when they have lost their vitality.

Warning about ignoring your feelings, you do want 'more' with him?



I can see it as a move to the next level. Line 4 goes up to line 5.
Left and right halves of the hexagrams are people, and the line represents the level of connection.

2.5 advises to go the middle way, i.e. if you decide to advance - don't rush.
Wilhelm:
The lower garment is inconspicuously decorated - the symbol of aristocratic reserve

 

[kdedeaux4]

Thank you again Ashteroid! I never would have understood that reading!! ..and yes, after he asked me about "more", I've fully realized how deeply I care for him and that I definitely want more with him...next step: overcome *those* crippling fears and let go to just love.....
Thank you for your time with this. :bows:

 

[taoscopy]

I asked, "What is my best course of action at this point with S?"
Reply: 16.4.5 ---<8

16 - Youth

Youth can be mobilized. It is a period of indecision which will be emerged through involvement.

4 - One allows others to approach.

5 - One must share because they lack of means.
In the making
8 - Sharing

Sharing a common vision. Hesitations can lead to regrets.

http://taoscopy.com/en/consultation/888968/

The Yi suggests that you involve yourself. Line 4 and 5 suggest that you invite him to your plan and maybe to the road trip too. "Lack of means" often stands for "lack of confidence", not necessarily "lack of money".

 

[kdedeaux4]

Thank you so much Taoscopy! You're so kind to help me understand this :bows:
I'm starting to realize maybe I've been going about this whole wonderful thing without expressing the exuberance, joy, and affection I truly feel!

This experience is so different for me. I've liked men before, but I don't think I've ever respected their humanity and character to the level that I do with this particular man. With past fears of other less honorable types, it's causing me to fear these feelings and withhold them.

Thank you both so much for the help understanding and seeing these IC insights! As usual, the IC calls me out and pushes me to embrace and recognize that in myself which needs to be examined!

Blessings to you both!:bows: