Tiger Bites Toddler

[autumn]

There's nothing for me to really add to what Hilary, Bruce and Martin have said, but perhaps you would like to know that "13" is what instantly spoke to me about the situation, and was the key to understanding the rest of the reading. As soon as I saw that 13 was the relating hexagram, I knew instantly that my daughter hadn't been hurt by an adult or hadn't accidentally hurt herself. 13 said to me, "this happened within a context of being with others who are socially similar to her". The dynamics of the situation were 10 (behavioral, ranking) dynamics.

When I asked the question, my 'gaze' was directed backwards, not forward. Something had already happened, and because of that, I expected the second hexagram to reflect the energy being 'grounded' in the past (but using the term in a much different way than in the principle of figure/ground in perceptual psychology). Had I been asking about the future, I would have expected the second hexagram to reflect a potential future path unfolding from the dynamics reflected in the first hexagram.

Reification is a principle of Gestalt psychology that is more directly analogous to what is going on in a reading. An explanation of it is provided in the first link posted in this thread, on Wikipedia. In fact, I have a theory that all "inspired" texts that are imbued with inherent meanings were inspired from the bottom-up instead of the top-down through collective reification.

 

[my_key]

Gestalt ? - I thought that this was simply about living in teh NOW.

 

[martin]

That is what Gestalt therapy is about, not Gestalt psychology.
Even in the now we have to makes distinctions sometimes.

 

[lightofreason]

There's nothing for me to really add to what Hilary, Bruce and Martin have said, but perhaps you would like to know that "13" is what instantly spoke to me about the situation, and was the key to understanding the rest of the reading. As soon as I saw that 13 was the relating hexagram, I knew instantly that my daughter hadn't been hurt by an adult or hadn't accidentally hurt herself. 13 said to me, "this happened within a context of being with others who are socially similar to her". The dynamics of the situation were 10 (behavioral, ranking) dynamics.

From the non-traditional perspective, any methodology recruits the whole IC as a source of meaning and, in association with local context, will sort all hexagrams into a best-fit/worst-fit sequence. Random/miraculous methods will not guarantee that that sequence is consistantly the best fit for the context and your comments above re attraction of 13 suggest that it was higher up the best-fit sequence than 10.

The IC is a filter and all elements of it apply to any perspective, all hexagrams contribute to the meaning of a situation but lack of understanding of what is going on at unconscious levels can cause consciousness to make up a story, an interpretation, to satisfy a need for immediate gratification. If that story is not re-assessed when new research gives better insights on to what is going on then the story becomes increasingly distanced from the reality.

The 'binary' sequence ordered into a best fit with 13 at top is:

13 49 30 55 37 63 22 36
25 17 21 51 42 03 27 24
01 43 14 32 09 05 26 11
10 58 38 54 61 60 41 19
33 31 56 62 53 41 52 15
12 45 35 16 20 08 23 02
44 28 50 32 57 48 18 46
06 47 64 40 59 29 04 07

10 is in the beginning of row 4 and so a bit down the list.... but note your immediate attraction to 13 still does not put it as best-fit, just higher up in some order than 10.

There is a logic of relationships here - in the natural binary sequence all pairs reflect the relationships of the core pair, 01/02 - here we focus on 13/07 thus each pair reads as "01 is to 43 as 13 is to 07, 44 is to 28 as 13 is to 07 etc etc' with an increasing shift overall from 13 to 07.

From a questions perspective we can interpret:

situation was about a fact (the scratch)
situation was about what how did that happen (what could have happened)
you were being proactive (asking her etc)

these seed the trigram of fire. Fire covers interpretations, issues of acceptance, and as such covers attempts to make the unknown known (we make 'maps', identify 'facts' that fit our ideologies etc etc)

If you feel you were being more reactive then the trigram is thunder - a focus on the emotion of surprise, something unexpected, new, sudden etc

We could interpret you as being initially reactive and becoming more proactive (thunder into fire). Thus your third question would reflect a changing line.

if we just stick to the three questions we double the trigrams to give a generic focus on things - and so 30 or 51. Note 30 and its relation to 13 ( in the binary sequence 30 is a few steps away from 13 as both are from the octet of fire-based hexagrams), the hexagram you intuitively connected with.

The 30 'binary sequence' best fit format is :

30 55 13 49 22 36 37 63
21 51 25 17 27 24 42 03
14 34 01 43 26 11 09 05
38 54 10 58 41 19 61 60
56 62 33 31 52 15 53 39
35 16 12 45 23 02 20 08
50 32 44 28 16 46 57 48
64 40 06 47 04 07 59 29

The logic of relationships now covers 30 is to 55 as 30 is to 29, 35 is to 16 as 30 is to 29 etc etc and overall a shift from 30(best fit) to 29 (worst fit).

29 could fit with its focus on containment/control and so would have elicited meaning but that was not your focus, you seemed to focus more on a fact than a value and so wanted a 'how' of that fact.

Chris.

 

[autumn]

13 isn't a better fit than 10. It simply explains the scenery for the dynamics of 10 to unfold. 49 is not a better fit than 10 in relation to 13, either, even though 49 is ordered immediately after 13.

In fact, I don't know that I could imagine a better way to explain through the line changes of 10 to 13 what was happening, and as Hilary pointed out, what she was learning about getting close to others. It seems to need both hexagrams to give such an excellent description of what (actually) occurred (and of course it is less statistically probable two best-fit hexagrms would occur together than just one).

But 30 is a quite a good description of what I was doing, so the Emotional I-ching seemed to work well here.

 

[heylise]

"Toddler expelled from school for sexual intimidation of teacher", you sure got tigers in US!

I encountered America for the first time many years ago, through the books of Carl May, with Winnetou and Old Shatterhand. This toddler must be the reincarnation of Old Shatterhand.

He hugged the teacher and touched her breast! WOW!

LiSe

 

[Sparhawk]

"Toddler expelled from school for sexual intimidation of teacher", you sure got tigers in US!

I encountered America for the first time many years ago, through the books of Carl May, with Winnetou and Old Shatterhand.

It isn't the American's fault; we need a place like Amsterdam here and Las Vegas isn't cutting it...

L

 

[bruce_g]

I believe that law is called The Pat Robertson Initiative. Thy teacher’s breast shall thou in no way touch.