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Interpreting various readings, a thing occured to me. Some of them contain clear time reference: 12 - the seventh month, 24 - the eleventh month (but also says: on the sevent day comes return. The seventh day is also mentioned in hex 63 and hex 19 the latter also mentioning the eight month), 43 - the third month etc., whereas some of them are not explicitly linked to time.

I was wondering, are those references mere metaphores, or do they actually contain real hints regarding the solution/development/action that the hexagrams deal with?
 

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I was wondering, are those references mere metaphores, or do they actually contain real hints regarding the solution/development/action that the hexagrams deal with?


Yes on both counts. They are metaphorical timing references but they are also actual timing devices. One of the most interesting treatises that deal with timing and a system for questioning the Yijing, in a very practical way, is from a Chilean author named Ricardo Andrée. I've always had some issues about his personal claims but his Yijing materials are very good and I respect him for that. One can ascertain when an author really "feels" the classic and Ricardo is one of them.

One person here that uses his methods all the time is Jesed. Perhaps he can add some information to this.
 
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Does anyone have examples of readings where 'eighth month' or 'seventh day' (or 'ten years', come to that) was meant literally?
 

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They're metaphoric, but they're relative to each other. Three years ain't as serious as ten years.
 

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I have been reading on the zeitgeistmovie.com site how many many ancient religions tell of their Sun God as dying and then being reborn 3 days later. Supposedly this has to do with the Winter Solstice when the sun is at the end of a cycle and the days are shorest. Right after solstice the sun actually appears to be in the same spot for three days! Then the cycle starts moving again, the days start getting longer and it is as if the sun has been Resurrected!

Anyway, I wonder if there is any connection here with Hexagram 17. Following where the Image advises the superior man at nightfall to go indoors for rest and recuperation? Could "nightfall" also refer to death?
Then comes Hexagram 18. Work on What has Been Spoiled. Could this work be the work of repair that goes on during sleep or between lives? Hex. 18 says, "Before the starting point 3 days. After the starting point 3 days." Could this be something about the 3 days before resurection?
Note the extremely inspiring words of Hex.19, "Approach has SUPREME SUCCESS." Where could such confidence come from? Has the soul had a vision in the sleep of 17 - 18 that now inspires him to feel "Inexhaustible in his will to teach"?

Consider the sequence..
16. A fabulous full life.
17. When it's over it's over.
18. Three days of past life review and healing.
19. Born again inspired to do it again and include even more folks in the party.

Anyway, just thoughts on the reference to timing...
 
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Time Reference in I Ching

I know that I've had some *actual* time periods & numbers mentioned in the I Ching answers that were not only accurate but actual --I will have to think more to remember for certain any more of them---however, it was in actuality 3 years before a particular situation was resolved for me and I had repeatedly received hexagram #53 line with 3 years being mentioned as the time that had to pass.
I also remember quite clearly, *many* yrs ago, when trying to decide something at age 17 or something, being surprised myself(even then) when I received #5 line 6.
I was going to go somewhere, and had hoped to see someone but assumed I wouldn't as the night wore on.With line 6, the time for change has seemingly passed, waiting is over, but at the last 3 univited guests arrive.
This is exactly what happened--the 3 guests arrived by complete surprise exactly where i was, very late, and one was the person I had hoped to see.
I also want to add that in The I Ching as interpreted by John Blofeld,paperback version 1968, (the very 1st I ever bought, and had difficulty understanding) ;)
he includes at the back several tables, one of which is called Seasonal tables --and in which is listed time periods for the different Hexagrams --*if* a question as to when something will occur is asked.
In other words, receiving a hexagram doesn't necessarily mean that if it's listed in this seasonal list under May, that something will happen in the month of May--but if one asks when something is likely to occur,it will hold true.
It goes according to the Chinese calendar which as we know, starts approximately with the Western February, but changes every year.
I have found this system to work very well too.:bows:
 
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