Clarity,
Office 17622,
PO Box 6945,
London.
W1A 6US
United Kingdom
Phone/ Voicemail:
+44 (0)20 3287 3053 (UK)
+1 (561) 459-4758 (US).
I always use DeKorne’s site as a contemplative tool for changing lines: certainly the talk of “great joy” indicates success, if Confucius , Legge and other commentators are viewed as legitimate.
Yes, understood, and I do not take any interpretations or commentary as gospel. That said, what do you think the casting indicates regarding Trump and his enablers?I promise not to rant about Dekorne today,
I've done it enough in the past.
Look at Confucious, Legge, and Wilhelm there, but please, I beg you, ignore what
'the editor' writes, and understand that while Anthony is occassionally insightful, she has some sort of very narrow tunnel vision in general about the texts meanings, that overall make her not so great a source for learning. (the editor is, shall we say, baked.)
Good point!what do you think the casting indicates regarding Trump and his enablers?
Why so?And don't feel inclined to encourage these sorts of questions by f.o.e.
How shall I rant about Dekorne, or ... how shall I love thee or how shall I misuse thee, let me count the ways ...I promise not to rant about Dekorne today, I've done it enough in the past. (... shall we say, baked.)
I can see that, yes. The only thing I can say in its defense is that the various commentary are usually very similar: If I’m upset with a casting the DeKorne site usually makes matters worse by reinforcing the meaning which has unsettled me. In other words, there is less chance of twisting things to make the reading more agreeable to one’s own wishes or desires. I think the Trump castings are a case in point.How shall I rant about Dekorne, or ... how shall I love thee or how shall I misuse thee, let me count the ways ...
The Dekorne site reminds me of something I was reading recently. It was an essay by Edward Espe Brown who was the first head cook at Tassajara Zen Center (in Big Sur, Calif.) from 1967 to 1970. In the essay he describes how the breakfasts at the zen center grew in complexity as more and more people started to go there. Starting with simple bowls of oatmeal, they soon found themselves offering all kinds of condiments: salt, sesame salt, soy sauce, miso, sugar, honey, milk, soy or almond or oat mik, raisins, nuts, and on and on and on ....
One day Suzuki Roshi, whom founded Tassajara, the first Buddhist monastery outside Asia, gave a talk about 'one taste, many tastes'. He told people that they had so many choices and were so attached to having their food taste the way they wanted it - and were so worried that the food might not be salty enough, or too salty, or too yang, or too sugary - ... that they were failing to understand or appreicate the idea of 'one taste' - which to me speaks of simplicity and of accepting or knowing things as they are.
For me DeKorne is like these 'many tastes' - there is something there for everyone, and you can pretty much make any hexagram or reading be the way you think it should be and say what you think it should say. But in doing so you could likely be missing the essence of what the Yi is telling you.
And while I do appreicate the idea of using this site as a learning tool, I think the temptation of these 'too many tastes' too often overshadows what good we might glean from it. I therefore don't find it a useful tool.
Best, D.
I kind of felt hurt, too, in the past about rebukes regarding using DeKorne commentary, because to me it was a contemplative tool used to enhance the query and poster responses, not to replace them by any means.Well gee Trojina.
When I quote translations, it is to source where my interpretation comes from.
I find DeKorne's site a useful tool in reading for others because there are multiple interpretations.
A similar site that includes people not on DeKorne's site, like Karcher etc. or even Charly here's commentaries would also be a useful tool.
Your combative response hurts my feelings. I certainly was not insulting you suggesting you create your own site. You're a moderator are you not? If Hilary can create Clarity and Lotti can create Yijing and Dekorne can create her Gnostic Book Of Changes, surely you can too.
- LL
I certainly was not insulting you suggesting you create your own site.
I kind of felt hurt, too, in the past about rebukes regarding using DeKorne commentary, because to me it was a contemplative tool used to enhance the query and poster responses, not to replace them by any means.
I understand fully your points; just felt embarrassed so wanted to make clear that I never intended to cause any problems when I would copy paste the commentary.It looked to me like deKorne's site was being discussed here already so I added my opinion which I think I am entitled to. It wasn't intended to hurt but it is a bit of a pain IMO but if you like it use it.
Thanks; much appreciated.Don't feel embarrassed the deKorne debate was going on long before you were here. Sorry about this I regret making you feel this way when I can see you have much to offer the forum. Do go on contributing as you feel best.
I kind of felt hurt, too, in the past about rebukes regarding using DeKorne commentary, because to me it was a contemplative tool used to enhance the query and poster responses, not to replace them by any means.
Clarity,
Office 17622,
PO Box 6945,
London.
W1A 6US
United Kingdom
Phone/ Voicemail:
+44 (0)20 3287 3053 (UK)
+1 (561) 459-4758 (US).