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Understanding hexagram 29 changing to 58

kathy1

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Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I asked Iching how successful I would be if I took a certain action and it replied..29.4,29.1 changing into 58.
Does this mean success with my undertaking?
 

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How successful will I be if I take a certain action?
29.1.4 > 58


Welcome to Clarity, Kathy1. The judgment is positive.

If you are sincere, you have success in your heart,
And whatever you do succeeds.

So success depends on how honest you are with yourself about this undertaking. However, line 1 suggests difficulty at the beginning and line 4, that success will take time.
 

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Because of the difficulties associated with hexagram 29 in general, you might decide not to take this path fraught with many pitfalls. There is, however, something about it that is drawing you and perhaps it would be better to pay attention to the hexagram 29 as signifying danger and pitfalls and not to your pleasure or enthusiasm in thinking about this undertaking.
 

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I wouldn't venture an interpretation without knowing your question.
One thing to play with, though, is that the change is from water to water,
but from water bounded on two sides to water bounded on all sides.
 

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Kathy

One thing that needs to be understood here is that while the individual hexagrams both indicate success, the lines aren't quite so positive, and yet...

The first and fourth lines in all hexagrams naturally correspond with each other, at least if one is yin and one is yang. When both are yang, or in this case, both are yin, then they don't relate so well. But sometimes they can relate as two people of like kind.

What I get out of this is that in order for your enterprise to be successful, you are going to need help. (See the fourth line) Hexagram fifty eight has an aspect of this as well, as the image says, "Thus the superior person joins with his friends for discussion and practice." The key here is mutual support. I don't know if there is anyone involved that can help you, but you might seek that help out if there is not.
 

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Because of the difficulties associated with hexagram 29 in general, you might decide not to take this path fraught with many pitfalls. There is, however, something about it that is drawing you and perhaps it would be better to pay attention to the hexagram 29 as signifying danger and pitfalls and not to your pleasure or enthusiasm in thinking about this undertaking.
Chris Lofting showed this aspect of 29 clearly in the form of obsessive/compulsive behaviors. Learning here can be seen as satisfying or fulfilling, even if only momentarily.
 

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