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what can be the nature of a gathering in hex 45

dragona

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Hello, just a quick question - what kind of a gathering can be meant when receiving hex 45UN?
Thanx :bows:
 

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- systemic constellations
- objects stored in the cellar
 

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hello dragona,
systemic constellation work does happen 'among people' ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ systemic_constellation)

the usual suspects:
funeral
company merger
religious mass
rally/ political demonstration
fund raising party
party congress

just a personal observation: the 45 UN doesnt influence the kind of gathering; rather the process itself may turn out distorted.
 

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A think a healthy person, and natural life in general, is always 45ing, physiologically. So it can be applied to everything. A few examples:

  • eating
  • listening
  • reading
  • shopping
  • cooking
  • taking in a view
  • being open-minded
  • thinking of examples of gathering

My private 45 mantra is "get it together."

But it doesn't necessarily imply something is wrong. It's just that if you wish to filter what is allowed inside, it must be done with a separate component, i.e. another hexagram acting as a buffer, because 45 does not discriminate; it takes in the good, bad, beautiful and ugly. Furthermore, the entire process can occur within our own mind. Once the required or desired filters are in place, gathering can become specific and focused... like panning for gold. But even that requires sifting (filtering) through everything which washed into the pan, mostly silt. So one must be prepared to deal with it all, and understand that just because it comes in, doesn't mean it's useable, desirable, or healthy. Being prepared for some degree of misfortune is just part of that filtering process. I suggest a second, relating/changing hexagram could provide that filter, and answer: gather what, specifically?

I visualize the center of all original gathering is a black hole, which leads back to the point of origin. Gathering is half the process of breathing. Dispersion being the other half. Our galaxy is an organism, with is believed to have a black hole at its center. It is perceived by some visionaries as being both the birth of celestial bodies (beings?), and the place to where everything returns to.
 

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A strategic planning session.

Over the earth, the lake:
The image of Gathering Together.
Thus the superior man renews his weapons
In order to meet the unforeseen.

Bradford has 'puts aside weapons'. Apparently temples were also the clan arsenals.
 
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Seeing the connections that bring people together.

Questioning some of the comforting reasons that people gather

and also embracing the healthy reasons too.

Adding on some wiki links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_the_Kool-Aid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_in_numbers

The best thing to have in a group situation, is like Bradford says, your wits and courage... that way you can determine the positive and the negative, what to leave behind and what to make as your own.
 
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Each hexagram derives its overall meaning from two places: the image of the two primary trigrams, and the image provided by the lines. Here they are:

Trigrams: A body of water covering a vast expanse of land: The various streams collect to form a solid group, so gathering together or clustering

Lines: The place of king and minister are strong and lead the yielding elements around them, they gather them together in a cluster.

So yeah, when I think of this hexagram, I think of a large crowd. Probably more than, say, 100 people. Any less and it could be covered by 8, 13, etc. imo

King Wen's text tells this story: A king (fifth line) sits atop his temple (nuclear trigram Mounatin). He is visible to his subjects below (lower trigram, accordance). He sacrifices these subjects (he relieves himself of the lower trigram, yielding) and finds profit in travelling to the upper trigram, lake.
 

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45 is a gathering together of all kinds of things, concepts and people....I've known it refer to reorganising a room in such a way that one can 'collect' oneself in it. That is if you want to work you gather together a place you can work.

So it can refer to you gathering yourself together, your resources together or meeting with others....and this can mean only 2 people, certainly has in my experience... doesn't have to indicate an actual crowd but can be about a central idea among people that connects multitudes....


so IMO it can stretch from gathering thoughts at your desk to joining in with a group ideal...however that may manifest...yet also can refer to family gathering. I guess its about focus overall. Pulling it all together and I think Hilary says somewhere putting all your eggs in one basket...so you can invest alot with 45 so this can make you vulnerable hence thats why the lines are so full of weeping and emotion.
 

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I too have found 45 to be a rather general hexagram applying to all sorts of situations, referring from an internal 'getting collected' to more populated spaces . . 45 can be about the forums here or about gathering facts to evaluate your own place in a situation. I wouldn't say that I've found discrimination to be an important part in it though, I think that for me, it's always been more about commonality or conforming to a given setting; depending on the space (trigram earth) the corresponding gathering occurs
 

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Hmmmm...thank you all for the contribution...certainly interesting and well said and something to think of but then this is a place of Clarity:bows:
 

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An old meaning (or THE meaning? no idea) was gathering herbs or veggies or such, but in an organized way. Not any herb, but a "collection". People can have a collection of old-timers, or of stamps, but old-timers and stamps together are not a collection - even though it is a lot of gathering stuff. Gathering peers, or a meeting of peers, is also the cui-kind of gathering. I think Trojan got it perfectly.
 

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