What is Happening in my Body? 46.4.5 >28

[malka]

Hello everyone,

I have a chronic illness that has been in remission for some time now. And yet, I started experiencing one new symptom, in a very mild form. I decided to visit the doctor just to take a closer look. After lots of blood tests, it's clear that my disease has significantly progressed. There four kinds of blood tests that have always been negative (normal) for me that are now showing as positive (abnormal) in addition to the other positive labs that I've consistently shown as positive for years.

This came to me like a huge blow. I felt betrayed by my body, I felt in shock. The disease is autoimmune (the body makes anti-bodies that kill off the self!) and I had made this "deal" with my body that if I do the emotional work, it will take care of the rest. Apparently, that was a one-sided deal. One of the anti-bodies I now have destroys the shape of my DNA. You'd be shocked at the language I wrote in my journal that night expressing my anger, and deep grief about all this.

This was about a week ago. At that time, I asked: What do I need to know about what's happening in my body? I received 46 with lines 4 & 5 changing to become 28. This was a very confusing repsonse to me.

Since then, I've come to see that this doesn't necessarily need to mean that my disease is progressing, rather that it may be a healing crisis! You know, the storm before the clam?

I'd welcome your feedback about the meaning of this readinfg in light of what's going on. Thank you.

Malka

 

[dharma]

Malka, you have a huge challenge on your hands and I hope that you can cultivate the courage and fortitude to see this through to it's natural fulfillment, whatever that may be.

Here is my grasp of the hexagrams that turned up for you. I offer it with love and I hope it helps somewhat. Dharma

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Hx28 reflects the body's unbalanced condition and how it produces a heavy pressure to the overall organism. There is no other way to approach your healing other than with unwavering self-discipline to the relevant details while resisting any temptations to take shortcuts. This is too serious for cutting corners.

Hx46 says not to hesitate approaching people who have the necessary authority or influence to help you and in that sense you need to put yourself in the 'spotlight'(whatever that means in your case). Consider carefully the direction you want this to go in and make a whole-hearted commitment to producing this outcome (don't settle for anything less). It is critical that your efforts be completely disciplined and totally unwavering.

Malka,I believe that you can still turn this around but that you MUST act in a prompt and consistent fashion towards that end. In taking any action, thoroughly and clearly understand the underlying problem as it relates to you. In this way, you are in a position to create purposeful order that leads to effective and long-standing change.

Assess and KNOW where the priorities lie, put them into a step-by-step practice on a daily basis and don't stop or look back until you've successfully produced the results you want. With this mindset and attitude, hx46 guarantees your achievement.

 

[candida]

Malka, I don't know whether you have lupus, rheumatoid arthritis or some other autoimmune disease, but I can tell you this aside from the hexagrams(I'm not good at dechipering hex's); I have rheumatoid arthritis and I am a crossover from Lupus(I had lupus first, it is in remission).
If you haven't gone to a rheumatologist yet, please do so soon. I am on a new medicine called Arava. One pill that I take on a daily basis and you wouldn't believe how much it has given me back my life! Also, there is a new drug(in shot form) that is called Enbrel which is extremely good for arthritis. Both of these meds are found on the computer if you find any arthritis site.
Hope this gives you hope, Tatiana

 

[frandoch]

Hi there,

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People have had success with many conditions, but especially with rheumatoid and osteoarthritis, and systemic lupus erythematosus.

I write reports on these conditions, including relevant research references. They contain detailed information regarding alternative therapies, and nutrition and life style advice. My clients are encouraged to discuss these matters with their healthcare professionals. If any of you would like more information, please contact me at NaturesWay001@aol.com.

 

[cal val]

Dear Malka...

I am so sorry to hear of your health issues. As soon as I read your post, I did some research on autoimmune diseases. I discovered that in many cases, though autoimmune diseases are incurable, there is hope to live a normal life. I just pray, dear Malka, that is true in your case.

I also learned that remission is rarely forever in the case of autoimmune diseases and that the various treatments to achieve remission can be as harmful as the disease itself...that the balance between remission and side effects is very delicate indeed.

You most certainly have a major challenge in your life.

The answer to your question is one that I would hesitate to answer...such responsibility...without knowing the spirit in which you asked it. Did you have in the back of your mind 'what can YOU do for your body'? This would be a very positive answer if that were the case.

I have no doubt that, as bright and resourceful as you are, you've already acculumated as much knowledge as a person can about their disease, so I offer these sites I've found not to you but to anyone else reading this who wants to understand something about the seriousness of the challenge you face.

http://www.niaid.nih.gov/publications/autoimmune/autoimmune.htm#treated


http://www.immunetolerance.org/research/autoimmune/

With all my love and prayers,

Val

 

[gene]

Malka

I am really sorry to hear this. I have to say too, though, that any interpretation I give of these lines isn't likely to help heal it or overcome it. I personally have never taken any kind of medicine in my life. Not even an aspirin. I don't normally use herbs or natural healing either. I do realize though that when the body gets too bad, drugs or pills can be the only alternative. I have a little bit of arthritis in my knees, and have lost a little cartilege in my right knee because of it. People at work were shocked though because within two days of the operation I was up and moving around and never took any medicine. Others with the same operation were on crutches for a few weeks. The problems with medicine for arthritis is it removes some of the inflamation, but not permanently, and the arthritis is still there. It requires other methods to remove the source. I suspect the same is true of other diseases as well.

The problem with emotional work is that the emotions are always deeper than we realize. The western world is especially guilty of expecting fast and miracle cures and it just doesn't work that way. Our ads say take this med, take that med, and how good we'll feel. They don't tell you about all the side effects. Then we take pills to cover up the side effects. It becomes a one way street. The pills the doctors give us take away pain often, but they really do not do anything to cure us. Even worse, they destroy the bodies natural immune system and weaken it. This makes us targets for other diseases. What is even worse, the medical profession is finding out now that when viruses are exposed to antibiotics, some will always survive, and those that survive mutate and become stronger viruses, more deadly, and immune to the bodies natural defenses, not to mention the latest antibiotic.

I know this won't help a bit. But I will say that hexagram 28 indicates an excess of yang energy. And especially on the inside. Meat and potato type meals are very yang. Fruit and vegetable are more yin. This may be a clue as to one thing that can give a little bit of help. But when a disease is progressing, the body's immune system needs all the help it can get. Our foods have been devitalized. Cows have growth hormones added to their food. Fields are sprayed to kill insects. All kinds of things have been done to destroy the natural harmony of the earth's nurturance. People argue that we are living longer and longer. But the quality of life is going down, and soon the life span will too.

I wish I could give you more help. I really do. Keep working on your emotional content. I suspect you have only touched the surface so far, though it may seem like a lot more than that. There are meditation CD's available that help one get in touch with their DNA and actually work to change it. Try www.centerpointe.com for example. Look up Neil Slade's website on meditation music and research that has been done regarding working with the amygdala in the brain. Do a search under meditation and look for music that is geared to breaking up crystalized emotions. Don't know that those things will cure it, but they may make the quality of life a little better.

Sorry I can't help more.
Gene

 

[malka]

Dharma,

Thank you for your thoughts. Yes, since I asked Yi the question, I have moved forward on several fronts: I've resumed acupuncture, increased my exercise and meditation regimen, re-joined my synagogue, increased my psychotherapy, I'm paying close attention to good sleep patterns/hygiene as this can effect my body's ability to rest and rejuvenate, and I'm watching my diet for any of the allergenic foods that I sometimes eat anyway. I am also going to take Frandoch up on his offer. So I am definitely not hesitating to seek out assistance and take action. The question -- is this enough?

My doctor doesn't believe that this is a gloomy situation at all, mostly because my clinical symptoms have barely changed. If I were in real distress with these lab results, that would be different. But I am okay. He believes this is just a reason to watch me closer.

I am also under tremendous pressures, and stress does effect this condition. I'm grateful for the space to express much of this to a warm community, and ultimately I believe the gentle words and good wishes, and mostly just the LISTENING (well, I don't really know who is listening, I just know that I'm typing and that seems to be enough) from each of you is very healing. I consider all of you, and Yi, to be a part of my healing and growth process. Thank you.

I may throw the coins again to see what Yi has to say now, because my attitude is very different from when I threw the coins last week. At that time, I was ANGRY, HURTING, and felt BETRAYED. I can't help but wonder if a big piece of the work Yi described at that time wasn't simply my attitude. I truly felt in that surreal kind of place that comes from SHOCK and DISBELIEF. I do not feel any of these things now. I just feel normal, natural, and have the encouragement to work more emotionally, etc. and to find closure on a the life situations that are within my control to close, thereby freeing energy for those other issues (working through the trauma of molestation, finding a job - just simple stuff!) I cannot forget that a close friend of my died two weeks ago. It was expected (she had cancer) bit still...this loss is yet another piece of healing that is a part of my life.

In the trauma healing work I've been doing, I've noticed how the usually protective part of me is something I don't need so much anymore. And I wonder if she's feeling threatened that I'm no longer giving her the kind of authority over my life as in the past? Yes! And so, what I feel to be true is that she is fighting to save her job, and fighting to save me, and feeling threatened by me. It's this desperation that is reflected in the new autoimmune activity happening in my body. I feel this to be true.

I learned long ago, that although on the "surface" it looks as though my body is attacking itself I know I am not suicidal. And so, I know that what my body is doing is purely an act of survival and not an act of war. This is the lens through which I try to view my life experience.

This is about all I have to say for now...

Malka

 

[malka]

Candida,

I am so sorry to learn that you are living with RA and Lupus symptoms. I'm glad to hear, however, that you have some new options for pain relief that are working for you. I know this can be an uncomfortable life situation both physically and emotionally.

Western medicine calls what I have "undifferentiated connective tissue disease." This is because I have symptoms that fall into more that one of the connective tissue diseases. Sometimes they also call this mixed, or overlap connective tissue disease.

I've been seeing a Rheumatologist for more than 10 years. I'm guessing the new medications you are taking are for the RA as there have been no new medications for connective tissue disease (including Lupus) for the last 50 years. As you also probably know, there is no "cure" for these conditions. There is symptomatic relief, and some docs feel some of the drugs slow down the progression of the disease by compromising the immune system. (For those who don't know, in autoimmune disease the immune system is OVER active.) The drugs that are available to me are toxic for me. I cannot take them without violent reactions that are far worse than the symptoms they relieve.

Blessings,
Malka

 

[malka]

Val,

Thank you for your concern, though...I live an entirely normal life! I do have a constant low level of pain and inflammation in all of my joints and muscles. And at times this spikes, then eases again. But this has been my way for so many years that it is simply part of my tapestry. It's not a big deal anymore.

Some of the early reading I did years ago documented two instances where people tended to have spontaneous healing from autoimmune activity -- falling in love, and finding G-d. I'm open to having both experiences enter my life more fully.

Thanks for the sites, I'll check them out soon.

Blessings,
Malka

 

[malka]

Okay, why do I have the feelings that people are a little fearful to offer a reading on 46 > 28? I guess 28 is pretty gloomy. It's okay, I'm not scared. I do sincerely now believe that this is a healing crisis, not a death sentence.

I am going to ask another question, and I'll let you know the results soon.

Thanks,
Malka

 

[chrislofting]

Malka,

you wrote:
>
> Okay, why do I have the feelings that people are a little
> fearful to offer a reading on 46 > 28? I guess 28 is pretty
> gloomy.

How so? consider for hexagram 28 we have (eranos text):

"TA KUO -

TA : big, noble, important, very; orient the will toward a self-imposed goal, impose direction; ability to lead or guide your life...

KUO : go beyond, pass by, pass over; excessive, transgress; error,fault."

and from analysis of the relationships of hexagrams we have:

"In the binary sequence hexagram 28 pairs with hexagram 44.
This pairing reflects 'going beyond' the norm, be it in aiding someone/something (the excess of 28, to go the extra distance) or in the act of persuation/seduction of another (44).

In the binary sequence hexagram 28 opposes hexagram 27.
This pairing reflects the differences of being 'empty' and so developing a hungering (27) vs being too full (28). This overall focus is on excess, as in excess of emptyness vs excess of fullness. 28 can be extended to include the concept of doing more than is required to aid in someway, to go the extra distance etc.

At the LOCAL level we are dealing with an octet of hexagrams with the WIND trigram as base. In this sequence hexagram 18, the focus upon correcting corruptions, 'opposes' hexagram 28, excess, going beyond what is required. More so, the exaggerated sense of excess, of 'going beyond what is required', is reflected in a more balanced format through the focus on correcting corruptions.

In the traditional sequence 28 pairs with 27.
In this pair the focus is on consequences of excess, be it an excess of being empty (27) or an excess of being full (28).

In the traditional sequence hexagram 28 opposes hexagram 37.
In this pairing the rigid structure of 37 is balanced and it serves as tension release, in 28 there is a sense of over-balanced, about to burst and so a presence of tension and exaggeration.

The generic properties of hexagram 28 reflect the mixing of the generic properties of hexagram 44 mixed with the generic properties of hexagram 01.
A combination of being 'seductive' (44) with a focus on singlemindedness (01) is reflected in the excess, the exaggerations, the going beyond what is required, states of hexagram 28."

For hex 46 we have (eranos text):

"SHENG : go up; climb step by step; rise in office; advance through effort; accumulate; bring out and fulfill; lit: a measure of fermented liquor, ascension as distillation."

and from relational analysis we have:

"In the binary sequence hexagram 46 pairs with hexagram 18.
This pair reflects issues of 'getting involved', where in 46 we see the increase in entanglement with someone/something, and in 18 we see the involvement in the form of actively focusing on cleaning-up corruption.

In the binary sequence hexagram 46 opposes hexagram 25.
This pairing reflects issues of disentangling oneself to assert one's opinion/faith (25) vs becoming more entangled with a particular perspective (46).

At the LOCAL level we are dealing with an octet of hexagrams with the WIND trigram as base. In this sequence hexagram 44, the focus upon persuading and seducing, 'opposes' hexagram 46, becoming willingly more entangled. More so, the exaggerated sense of persuation/seduction (44) is reflected in a more balanced format through a focus in increased entanglement (46)."

and

"The generic properties of hexagram 46 reflect the mixing of the generic properties of hexagram 18 with the generic properties of hexagram 26.
A combination of correcting corruption (18) with a focus on holding firm to traditions (26) is reflected in the need to become more entangled with things (46)."

the change from 46 to 28 can be considered as:

(a) a warning - the activity of that of 46 and the exaggeration is described by 28, in the process of becoming more entangled one must be wary of going too far.

(b) a transcending moment - the process of getting more involved shifts to a process of getting extremely involved in the form of going beyond what is required.

your original question was: "What do I need to know about what's happening in my body?"

Based upon the hexagrams derived, you need to know that getting 'more entangled' reflects a developing bias to one condition over the other. Issues can develop if this development is allowed to be 'excessive' suggesting some form of 'delaying action' is required. Since mental states can affect physical states, and your recent 'dramas' have caused some 'negative' thinking so this thinking can give an opportunity for a 'disease' to take advantage.

As such the hexagrams also reflect a 'solution' in that you need to get more involved in understanding the properties and methods of the 'problem' and in doing so know what will happen 'worst case'. This requires 'going beyond the normal', doing the extra work to clearly identify the situation and that includes 'shifting' one's mental state.

Note in the above such relationships as 28 reflecting an exaggeration of 18. In 18 the focus is on 'correcting corruption' and that, in its extreme mode, requires one to 'go beyond the normal', to do the extra work to 'correct' that corruption - and that is what has happened in your immune system, it has become corrupted in the process of identifying friend or foe.

Then also note, given above, that hexagram 18 is ALSO a fundamental of hexagram 46. Thus beneath all of this expression appears to be a fundamental focus on correcting corruption and that requires the 'uncorruptable' nature of idealism, of positive, absolute, faith and by that I dont mean just 'religious' but also secular in the form of getting clear, precise, medical advice and being proactive in dealing with the situation - but dont take things 'blindly', find out what you are given as medication etc etc

In 46 the other root is hexagram 26 - which means holding firm to beliefs (and so being positive).

The core elements of 28 are (a) singlemindedness and (b) a persuasive/seductive perspective. The negative of this is obvious but there is also the positive in the form of going beyond what is required, and so the aire of singlemindedness reflects a need to focus attention and the nature of 44 reflects the need to 'seduce' the negative away to elicit the positive; as we do with children where the direct approach can at times not work and so we have to be more 'subtle' in our persuations, carrots as well as sticks ;-)

Faith can move mountains, and I dont mean it as something religious, secular faith is just as positive, the focus is on the absolutness involved. If you start early then there is energy available to sustain the faith, start too late and the disease can sap energy and so make things a little more difficult.

As I have pushed before, our consciousness allows us to IMAGINE states that feed into the senses of the brain and as such elicit responses to fantasy taken as if real. Thus clear identification of what is going on - and that means fine detail - allows our consciousness to be selective in imagination, more precise, and so elicit senses that can aid in dealing with the problem (the placebo effect is a classic example of what belief can do).

Chris.

 

[davidl]

Hi Malka,

Sorry to hear about your condition, I will prepare a meditation (merkabah) that you may enjoy and send it to your private email. This has helped me in the past to connect with great healing.

Speak soon.

 

[chrislofting]

Malka,

in my last reply I commented that there will be a need for an 'idealist' appraoch to aid in dealing with the problem. Regardless of the issues of the roots of idealism/materialism etc, you may want to go through Michaels 'Seven Laws' thread in that they stem from idealist perspectives and as such can be useful in eliciting the mental attitude needed to get through your particular situation. The focus is not on the text as fundamental 'truth' but more as a methodology in 'stirring' the necessary belief required, and so act as a force of motivation, invigoration etc etc.

Chris.

 

[heylise]

**What do I need to know know about what*s happening in my body?

Hex.46 is a stairs or going up one. Literally it is the amount of rice one gets in a job: more sheng of rice means a better job. Promotion is measured in the number of sheng.
Together with hex.28 it made me think of climbing a mountain, because 28 is literally crossing a mountain-pass.

46: 6 at 5: Determination auspicious. Ascending steps.
Proceed inch by inch, without skipping steps, then you will attain a lasting result. You will have it in control, and it will be strong enough to exist by itself. The reason for its strength is, that every step comes out of your own soul, you are what you do. No one can ever stop this.
Changes to hex.48, 9 at 5: The well is a clear cold spring. Drink.
Do not try to find inspiration, it cannot be summoned. Just make your mind and heart and soul clear, and it will well up in plenty. Be like the well itself, its inside is empty, open to receive the lavishing waters.
46: 6 at 4: The king benefits of a sacrifice to Mount Qi. Auspicious. Without fault.
The mind starts something long before any action is taken. Without this preparation actions will be weak and without direction. The mind steers the actions, but the intention creates the outcome.
Changes to hex.32, 9 at 4: Fields without wildfowl.
Don*t blame the field. If you catch nothing, you are either hunting at the wrong place or moment, or you did not prepare yourself. Hunting is a question of mind, not of hands. A good hunter does not need to run after the game, he waits at the right spot.

Then I read about the sacrifice to the mountain Qi.

Several years ago a plane crashed in the middle of mountains. Only rocks and snow, miles around. On board of the plane was a team of some sport, I don*t remember what, together with friends and relatives.
The time went by and they understood that they had not been found and now efforts would be stopped. The food was gone, they ate of the frozen limbs of the ones who had not survived the crash, but everyone knew they would all die.
One of them had an unusual mind. He did not despair, but lived everything as a challenge. He decided to try to cross the mountains and get help. Two others joined him, but one had to go back, because he could not face the impossible task. Every time they crossed a mountain, a new range came in sight.
The companion said: *We reached a top, and again there was a wide and far scenery of only mountains and snow, still no sign of an end to it. He stood there, on that mountain, and looked in awe to the huge landscape, and rejoiced in its beauty. Said he felt close to God, how beautiful it was, and that this was life. It was incredible. I did not understand how such strength of mind was possible*.
They made it through the mountains and reached a village. All the others were saved.

46.5 Go up, step by step. Do nothing beyond your abilities, but you will be surprised how much one can reach by just taking step after step. 48.5: you have it in you, use it.
Line 5 is about the *inner king*, your personal spirit, the insight and mental strength you need to cope with the world, the authority you can exert over your life, your body, your surroundings. Line 5 can pick up ideas or make them, and give them structure, and turn them into a living possibility.

Line 4 is the minister, who receives the king*s edict, and decides about the best course of action to turn it into reality. He advises the king about its possibilities and impossibilities. He finds the right people or other means to carry it out.
He chooses the proper sacrifice, and time, so the gods will cooperate, and also the right moment and means to catch the result (32.4). The sacrifice is the total commitment to this decision. The gods are now part of it, so he cannot stop, but he also receives the power to fulfill it. But only gods is not enough: he has to go his own steady course too, bringing in al his wits and knowledge and endurance.

I do not know what to do, but that was not your question. You asked what to know.
The strongest ally in staying or becoming healthy is your Qi, life-energy. It happens to look like the name of the mountain, but it is a different character. This (mountain) Qi is composed of mountain and support or branch (the 12 earthly *branches*), and it has as other meanings *elevated, intelligent, wise*.
I think the Yi is telling you that you have a road to go that is extremely difficult, but by seeing how difficult it is, you will not reach the end of the mountains. Only by living it with all your spiritual power. You have no disease, you have a road.

Hope it makes some sense
LiSe

 

[Frankelmick]

Malka,

I'm sorry to hear about your illness. I don't think I'd be shocked by the language you used at all. I think that you're entitled to be furious.

I wish you a refuah sh'laima, a perfect healing.

Best wishes,

Mick

 

[malka]

Chris,

Thank you for your extensive thoughts about my reading. Your responses are typically very generous, and at times I feel bad that I don't always understand what you've so graciously shared. But today -- I understand!

Some comments:

You wrote:

"The change from 46 to 28 can be considered as:

(a) a warning - the activity of that of 46 and the exaggeration is described by 28, in the process of becoming more entangled one must be wary of going too far."

Yes, at the time I asked the question I was living in the space of, Oh no! and reading things on the web about how these lab results translated to a higher occurrence of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, and lots of other bad things that are now starring at me. That, I believe, is the entanglement I can be so prone to upon first reaction, the fear, and that needed to stop. It has stopped.

You also wrote:

"(b) a transcending moment - the process of getting more involved shifts to a process of getting extremely involved in the form of going beyond what is required. "

Well, I do believe I needed a transcending moment to change my attitude, and this has happened. But there probably needs to be more of a transformation. At the moment I feel some of that has to do with un-entanglement from the trauma that is still living in my cells. This is going to take some time.

You wrote:

"Based upon the hexagrams derived, you need to know that getting 'more entangled' reflects a developing bias to one condition over the other. Issues can develop if this development is allowed to be 'excessive' suggesting some form of 'delaying action' is required. Since mental states can affect physical states, and your recent 'dramas' have caused some 'negative' thinking so this thinking can give an opportunity for a 'disease' to take advantage.

As such the hexagrams also reflect a 'solution' in that you need to get more involved in understanding the properties and methods of the 'problem' and in doing so know what will happen 'worst case'. This requires 'going beyond the normal', doing the extra work to clearly identify the situation and that includes 'shifting' one's mental state."

Again, I think I've moved past this with my whole change of attitude since I asked the question. But I do believe Yi was "right on" in terms of where I was at the moment.

Faith can move mountains. I believe what's happening with me now is a challenge to face my inner faith. To reveal the whole truth of what I believe has happened to me. I believe that the truth can also set me free.

Thank you,
Malka

 

[malka]

David, thank you. I'll look forward to the merkabah.

Mick, thank you for the blessing.

Malka

 

[malka]

LiSi,

Yes! Yi was reminding me to check my attitude! I am sure of this. It isn't about DISEASE in the western medical model understanding of the word. It is just the path I happen to be on. And, I need to walk the path. That's it.

I love the story of the sacrifice. It sounds similar to the lesson that Dharma shared with us in her recent thread: Live the moment as it is unfolding, be with the moment's own fulfillment as it is, rather than being attached and then disappointed by some expected outcome whose time has not arrived. Enjoy the beauty of the landscape for what it is, rather than despair in the lack of a village to offer help. Climb the mountain for it's own sake, not for the benefits that the other side may or may not have to offer. There is empowerment in this.

Beautiful lessons...
Malka

 

[malka]

Last night I asked the question:

What's the best approach for me to follow towards greater health and well-being?

I received 43 with lines 1,3,4,5 changing to 7.

I've learned that when I receive so many changing lines, it's usually because I'm tired, I wasn't focused when I asked the question, or I may have worded the question in a limiting kind of way that didn't allow the answer to emerge. And so, after a good sleep, today I asked:

What's the best way for me to respond to what's happening in my body?

The answer: 3 with line 4 changing to 17.

I wanted to ask the question in a way that was open enough to allow for any answer to emerge. I am no fool to believe the only appropriate outcome is a complete healing. Perhaps it is. Perhaps it isn't. There needs to be room around this to allow for what must be. And I need to be with it as it is.

I welcome your thoughts about my re-asking the question, as well as how I worded it and the results. I think it's pretty clear that I've got something big going on here that won't be easy to work through. I'm not sure about line 4 and putting this into context with the situation (a union?) but I might be too close to see what Yi is telling me...

Thank you,
Malka

 

[cal val]

Malka...

I think your questions are far too broad and impossible for the Yi to answer definitely. They can't recommend any particular treatment, especially by name...they can only hint in a direction. I think you're far better off naming the names, the different courses of treatment available to you, and getting the Yi's feedback on each.

I've saved the life of my 22 year cat and a fledgling bird by consulting the Yi for advice. I did this by offering several different remedies and getting their feelings on each. I also relied on them to tell me how long to keep going with the treatment...when to wait...when to stop. I asked if anything else was needed...if I got 52 or any other nonaction hexagram or line or any indication that all was well, I stopped treatment entirely and let nature take it's course.

For example, I came home from work one day to find my very old cat in serious distress. The vet was closed, and the nearest emergency vet was an hour away. I named several courses of treament and asked the Yi the effectiveness of each. I received very clear instructions from them and proceeded accordingly. I kept administering the treatments and periodically asking the Yi if I needed to stop or to keep going. I received very clear instructions and stopped when they said stop. The next morning I woke to find a cat that had survived the night and bounded back to life. That was about his fourth life. He's got five more to go...*grin*

I did the same with the bird that I found in shock. First I asked the Yi if I should try Ringer's lactated solution and, upon receiving a very positive response, administered it with an eyedropper periodically until the Yi said enough. I also asked about bread crumbs...the Yi was very adamantly opposed to the idea. I woke the next morning to find a bright, alert bird which I set free near its nest at sunrise.

Cheerio the noo,

Val

 

[learner]

Dear Malka,

I have just read your post about your chronic illness and I am really sorry to hear that. Fortunately, you have been given timely and appropriate interpretations to the questions that you posed to the I Ching. They are helpful for sure and I would like to add some comments on your last post regarding the questions:

What's the best approach for me to follow towards greater health and well-being?

Hex 43 with lines 1,3,4,5 changing to 7.
It seems to me that the lines recommend you to endure the difficult circumstances with determination. However hard the conditions seem to be, you have to keep your faith that a positive outcome is possible. In my view, the lines are drawing your attention to the danger of considering the battle lost. Whatever it is, be resolute and do not give up.

What's the best way for me to respond to what's happening in my body?

Hex 3 with line 4 changing to 17.
The line describes an unusual opportunity that should be taken. It is perhaps a chance for you to build up contacts or take the first step to accept with modesty valuable help.

Hope this helps,
And Val came up with a really good suggestion above.

Sincerely,
Mirian

 

[malka]

There is a part of me that hesitated to put on this forum that I am dancing with an illness. Why? Because I do not want to be seen, viewed, or held as someone who is ill. Not to deny what is true -- but because I believe that the orbit around us influences. And by inviting people to see a certain picture of me, it may limit or influence me negatively. Unless, of course, they are able to hold me as someone who is healing...not as someone who is ill or who is not living a full life. (Not that anyone has done this, it's just that I "fear" it could happen.)

But I also believe in the "power of prayer" so to speak, and I've read a million studies about the people who healed faster and more completely than others with the same condition, the same treatments, and where the only differing factor was that the healed individuals had people who regularly held them in their thoughts in a positive way. Not as in - what a shame, too bad, but truly held them with light and love. This kind of support I welcome with graditute.

I may start a thread in Open Space about healing and spirituality, and see what emerges...

Thank you,
Malka

 

[cal val]

Malka...

Let me add that I did not know a thing about birds, wild or otherwise. I just knew one time I was feeding my friend's cockatoo way too many sunflower seeds and she was losing her feathers as a result.

I came to this forum and asked for help. The bird was in shock and needed help urgently. I asked for suggestions, got some great help here, passed the suggestions by the Yi, and looked for parameters from the Yi...the bird survived.

You've been offered a few alternatives here, and of course there are many other courses of treatment to consider. Any one or any combination of them together might have you pain free in a very short time.

Cheerio the noo,

Val

 

[malka]

Val,

I just asked Yi about one of the ideas I've had that I have never tried: inviting people to pray for me. I specifically asked Yi about my selecting a bunch of family and friends (selective in who I ask - those who are most likely to be receptive) and I received 23 Unchanging! I guess that isn't a good idea after all!

I think I'm going to se all this aside for now, and come back to it when I gain a little clarity and after I have meditated. I can tell when I've started to ask too many questions.

This isn't a situation to fight, it's one to respect.

Malka

 

[learner]

Dear Malka,

When I joined this forum I was emotionally ill, entangled by difficult circumstances that I could not bear by myself.
I sincerely opened my heart here and received so much support and good advice.
I will always feel gratitude for that.
One of the most important things that I have learned from this experience, besides the value of friendship, is that being ill is a passing phase, thus from the moment that I became able to understand that I also started the healing process.
During that time, I used to question myself whether or not I should expose my deepest feelings and emotions in such a transparent way. However, the positive outcome proved that there were no grounds for concern.
From the bottom of my heart, I hope that you go through a similar experience of trust. In one way or another, all of us need sometimes to heal ourselves, physically, emotionally or spiritually.
I am sure that you will always be welcome here, to share pain or happiness, disbelief or faith, anger or love, whenever you decide that the moment is appropriate to do it.

I wish you all the best,
Mirian

 

[cal val]

Mirian...

I know your message was intended for Malka and not me...but it touched me nonetheless.

Thank you. I love you.

Val

 

[learner]

Hello Val,

I do love all of you as well. Thank you so much.
You know what the I Ching says: ?a kindred spirit attracts others? *grin *

All the best,
Mirian

 

[malka]

Val and Learner, Thank you, thank you!

Everyone, don't mean to change subjects here, but there's been a little unexpected twist and turn in my life...I met someone yesterday. A very sweet guy who grew up in a town 30 minutes away from me, and it took all these years and a couple thousand miles for us to meet.

You know those great first meetings, a three-hour conversation that seemed to fly by in a few minutes. Intellectually stimulating. Etc. I asked Yi about what I can expect to happen with us, and I received 51 unchanging! At the beginning of my last long-term relationship (not the short-term relationship I've written about on this forum, which was all 31 and some 53, but my last real love relationship) I asked the same question of Yi and at that time received 51 > 2. I know that 51 energy at the beginning of a relationship! That last relationship was one of most amazing experiences of my life and it certainly turned both of our worlds upside-down. Now, I receive 51 doubled!

Here's the funniest part - I did a search on the internet for 51 and relationships, and found a very interested and informative site. I recognized that Chris might find it interesting in particular, and then I noticed -- it was Chris' site!!! Wow!!!

You know, I believe love can heal (actually, there are many documented cases of autoimmune activity reversed when someone falls in love) and so maybe that's in my future? It's way too soon to say of course. I'm going to look forward to see how this unfolds.

Please send me good wishes!!

 

[Frankelmick]

Malka,

I think that Hx 51 asks you to find your centre and to stay calm.

I wish you all the best with this new relationship.

Mick

 

[martin]

Hi Malka,

It seems that line 4 of hexagram 3 said it all!
And yes, love heals.

My best wishes,

Martin