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I thought of starting another thread, perhaps with the intention of opening a window and let some fresh air in. In another thread, Candid said something that caught my attention and got me thinking:
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Ok. First, you're correct, in that I've danced with the Aquarian dream before. Thank you for crediting me with having personal experience with it. It isn't anything I haven't held as the answer to all human woes before. I was a radical, and was radical about my radical-ness. I held views to the far left of Hilary Clinton, and saw communism as "the way" to free the people. I went to B-ins, love-ins, anti-war demonstrations and women's lib rallies. I understand the concept of equality and unity.
But here is where you're incorrect. I never was disillusioned from those things, I learned from them. I didn't give them up, I gave them a realistic place to live. I didn't destroy them, I refined them. I didn't grow out of them, I grew out from them. In the evolutionary process, I embraced other ideologies, including yuppie materialism, religious and political conservatism. And eventually I found myself walking the middle path. The middle doesn't exclude any one theology for another. Neither is it wishy-washy. Test me and see if I'll take a stand. I am exactly where I am supposed to be for this time.<!-/Quote-!><HR SIZE=0></BLOCKQUOTE>
Now, don't misunderstand me. I am NOT placing Candid on the spot here nor this is a criticism of his views. I respect those and I think he knows that. Yet, what he said goes beyond his persona since I take it as a statistical sampling of people that think likewise, i.e.: people that have embraced liberal thoughts in the past and have, let's say, "flipped" to the right. I know it took years to "flip" but that's the end result, nevertheless.
I don't think it is a generational divide; after all, there are people in this forum that have more or less the same age and still hail from the center/left.
My personal position has always leaned more to the left than to the right. I have very good reasons for that and it has to do with my upbringing: I grew up and lived under the merciless foot of an extreme right government. I doubt that I would ever change, unless, something shook me off my base. There must be a transcendental reason for me to change.
I'm sorry to use Candid's words as an example, for this would call on him to defend his position. However, it should not be seen as an argument nor I intend to bash him for his views. Of course, by presenting this question I am also taking a position. I will not, though, enter into an argument with anybody over this. I want to understand. Perhaps if such reasons are understood, maybe those reasons are the ones to be tackled in the hope of keeping the ranks tight. So, what makes a person change such an stance?
Luis
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Ok. First, you're correct, in that I've danced with the Aquarian dream before. Thank you for crediting me with having personal experience with it. It isn't anything I haven't held as the answer to all human woes before. I was a radical, and was radical about my radical-ness. I held views to the far left of Hilary Clinton, and saw communism as "the way" to free the people. I went to B-ins, love-ins, anti-war demonstrations and women's lib rallies. I understand the concept of equality and unity.
But here is where you're incorrect. I never was disillusioned from those things, I learned from them. I didn't give them up, I gave them a realistic place to live. I didn't destroy them, I refined them. I didn't grow out of them, I grew out from them. In the evolutionary process, I embraced other ideologies, including yuppie materialism, religious and political conservatism. And eventually I found myself walking the middle path. The middle doesn't exclude any one theology for another. Neither is it wishy-washy. Test me and see if I'll take a stand. I am exactly where I am supposed to be for this time.<!-/Quote-!><HR SIZE=0></BLOCKQUOTE>
Now, don't misunderstand me. I am NOT placing Candid on the spot here nor this is a criticism of his views. I respect those and I think he knows that. Yet, what he said goes beyond his persona since I take it as a statistical sampling of people that think likewise, i.e.: people that have embraced liberal thoughts in the past and have, let's say, "flipped" to the right. I know it took years to "flip" but that's the end result, nevertheless.
I don't think it is a generational divide; after all, there are people in this forum that have more or less the same age and still hail from the center/left.
My personal position has always leaned more to the left than to the right. I have very good reasons for that and it has to do with my upbringing: I grew up and lived under the merciless foot of an extreme right government. I doubt that I would ever change, unless, something shook me off my base. There must be a transcendental reason for me to change.
I'm sorry to use Candid's words as an example, for this would call on him to defend his position. However, it should not be seen as an argument nor I intend to bash him for his views. Of course, by presenting this question I am also taking a position. I will not, though, enter into an argument with anybody over this. I want to understand. Perhaps if such reasons are understood, maybe those reasons are the ones to be tackled in the hope of keeping the ranks tight. So, what makes a person change such an stance?
Luis