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What to consider when communicating? 2.6 to 23

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Hi,

I recently decided to reach out to a romantic interest I went on a couple of dates with about 4 months ago. There was a strong connection and we spent a lot of time talking over the phone and video over the course of two weeks and then we had a couple of hiccups around what seemed like both of our insecurities and she summarily cut things off. I reached back out to her yesterday (after nearly 4 months) with an innocent "hello... thought about you recently, hope you're doing well" kind of message and she responded with something similar. I asked what to consider while communicating with X now and got 2.6 to 23. I take it as the past conflict was a big enough problem that any rekindled connection is unlikely, but I thought I'd pose it to the group. I was torn about even reaching out to her at all but decided to after getting reading 38.4 to 41. Perhaps I needed to reach out simply to get closure - I don't know. I welcome any of your thoughts and will surely let you know the outcome. Thanks.
 

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I see 2.6 as indicating being given too much, so one is no longer able to continue to be Receptive. Like if someone talks to you at length without letting you respond you finally snap and say, "I can't take on any more! I need to sort things out in current my life before making any future plans." I think this is telling you that the two of you broke up, took some time out, because a lot of other areas in her life needed to be dealt with this last winter. Now I see 23 as saying your past relationship roles have been shed and you two should have the attitude of a total fresh start, a new life. Will you be old friends who haven't spoken in years? Or will you just take up where you left off? Don't immediately try to reconnect as lovers. You broke up because something didn't fit right. Give yourself time to move around and create a better fit.
38. is Siblings. Maybe think of her as a sister. Call and talk like a friend.
 

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Hi Rosada. Thank you for your insightful response. The "being given too much and no longer being receptive" definitely characterizes the initial cutoff. Whatever the future holds, I know that taking things slow and carrying on in a lighthearted, friendly way is the best path forward, as frustrating as this often is with my nature.
 

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I wanted to give an update after about 10 months since the reading: I am currently in a long distance relationship with the woman I asked about in the reading. We started communicating again, and the relationship began building from there. However, things have also been bumpy along the way and have been close to falling apart numerous times.

Rosada, your interpretation was accurate regarding the things she needed to work out during the time apart before being receptive to a relationship, and the advice to keep things simple and friendly in the beginning proved to be helpful. The future of our relationship is not fully clear but we love each other and are doing our best to make the relationship work. Thank you!
 

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I wanted to give an update after about 10 months since the reading: I am currently in a long distance relationship with the woman I asked about in the reading. We started communicating again, and the relationship began building from there. However, things have also been bumpy along the way and have been close to falling apart numerous times.

Rosada, your interpretation was accurate regarding the things she needed to work out during the time apart before being receptive to a relationship, and the advice to keep things simple and friendly in the beginning proved to be helpful. The future of our relationship is not fully clear but we love each other and are doing our best to make the relationship work. Thank you!
Any update?
 

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Sure - In hindsight I might see the dragons battling in the fields as a fairly accurate picture of our relationship, which was a long distance relationship that ended after about a year of periodic visits to see each other. We really couldn’t get along, and it often felt like a power struggle which involved a lot of stress, breakups, and inner turmoil about whether this was really the right relationship for me. There are no hard feelings there, and some sadness that it couldn’t work out, but it’s hard to see it as a rosy line vis-a-vis a relationship, though there might be a lot more meaning in it that I’m not seeing. Around the time I got this line I had a dream of a t-shirt I own that has a graphic of a great white shark battling a grizzly bear.
 

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Thank you for updating.
Sounds like a pertinent dream for that time.

It's sad when it doesn't work out especially when you may Love someone despite the troubles.

At the moment the song Sorry Seems to be the Hardest Word is playing on a loop in my head. It's a song about a relationship that's heading towards the end.
 

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Of course, thanks for sharing that song. And yes, it really felt like a case of that.
 

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2 is very open, making space, nurturing something, but at line 6 the time to do this is over, reopening communication might be what the cast is warning against, 38.4 is truthful communication but in the midst of estrangement in 38 only small matters are auspicious. It's good to hear that you tried for a relationship and tried to make it work anyway , that is probably better than living with regrets of what ifs and maybe's.
 

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Yes i dont think 2.6>23 is the end, but it can be explosive. I think in another thread i told about fight I had out or no-where on a sunday night with my partner, never forget it. It was so quiet and we were yelling at each other like a scene from " who is a afraid of virgiania wolf" not good. But hey we didnt kill each other and are still together.

To me it is as a serious warning, to step back maybe. Dragons fighting in meadows with blood is a true warning for me anyway. You could look it as two street gangs going to war, or the Trogan war, a woman that set 10 000 ships a sail. Nobody is backing down, I believe the advice is someone needs to de-escalate the situation. But in 2.6 people rarely do, its like Mars in scorpio full tilt.

Strange I was thinking today what are the worst lines in the book of changes for me, this is one of them.
Weird how this thread popped up,

Be well
 
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I appreciate your focus on 2.6 meaning battling dragons, D.D and Steve.
I hadn’t fully recognized what a truly devastating line 2.6 can be. It’s like the Earth is destroyed here, leading to hex.3 Difficulty at The Beginning and having to start all over. Hmm.. Maybe the 2.6 - 3. sequence is a reassurance that we are eternal beings and so to expect we’ll constantly be destroyed but to know we have the power to rise up and try again - to persevere.

Now I think of the story of Adam and Eve and how Adam tells God he ate the apple because Eve told him to. I can just imagine Eve, up until now being the sweet compliant 2.5 Receptive Bride, hearing this and going total 2.6 on Adam, “Excuse me??? I’m not taking the blame!” Maybe it wasn’t God that threw them out of the garden, maybe it was their own bickering that turned paradise into hell.
 
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You can avoid 2.6 thats the whole point of the advice , but if you step into it you are trully on your own

Be well

PS how are you Rosada my friend
I am thinking of joining the circle after 20 years. I hope its like a secret meeting at a certain time like on Tuesday ( hate to disapoint you steve we are just normal people and no its not secret)

We are are seekers of knowledge, then my wife says why dont you smoke outside, keeps you grounded

Fine, will be there soon xo
 
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You can avoid 2.6 thats the whole point of the advice , but if you step into it you are trully on your own
That is a good point, Dr Daunt asked "What to consider when communicating", and 2.6 shows conflict, so seeing this as advice to step back and desecalate conflict and not as a prediction seems like the obvious interpretation to make.

38.4 could show the way, by focusing on small matters that are agreeable between both people.

Here is the line 2.6:
Legge: The sixth line, magnetic, shows dragons fighting in the wild. Their blood is purple and yellow.
Wilhelm/Baynes: Dragons fight in the meadow. Their blood is black and yellow.
 

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