What to expect for the next two months financially? Hex 28.2 to 31

[dancingfox]

I had the opportunity to focus 100% on starting up my business for a couple of months. I don't have a steady income yet but I'm managing. Meanwhile I am on the lookout for a job that pays the bills so I can do more with my life then 'just managing'. When I decide to focus on a project I tend to forget about my social life. I wish I had more room to move on like this, but bills have to be paid and my mom is taking me and my sister on the trip of a lifetime to the Azores in April. I don't want to be broke when we get there. Life is happening all around me and with Spring in the air, I am reminded that I like being a part of life and I long for connection. It's time to step out of isolation.

I am feeling some pressure to come up with solutions quickly. Like finding a job that doesn't take up to much headspace but pays the bills. And not stressing to much about the future of my business. I am doing something I really love.

I asked the I Ching what to expect on the financial front for the immediate future, the next two months:
I received hex 28.2 to 31.

Hex 28: the situation can't go on as it is, or the ridgepool will break.

Line 2: this line gives me hope. It's about opening up and making space for something new, that yes it will be a challenge to find the energy that is needed for my plans to come to fruitition, but it's a labor of love so energy will flow naturally. Also, I applied for a job at one of my previous employers. I was hoping they would perhaps hire me back. I didn't leave on bad terms. Could there be a connection with line 2? The withered willow as my old employer sprouting a shoot? A new job opportunity? I applied as a project manager for a new project. I wonder.

Hex 31 is all about being drawn, in this case to something new (28.2)

I will update this post! Curious to how this will unfold. In the mean time, other insights are very welcome



Sources: WikiWing and Hilary Barrett's I Ching

 

[marybluesky]

An unexpected blossoming

 

[dancingfox]

An unexpected blossoming

Oh man. I sure hope so

 

[The Hermit]

I had the opportunity

Did you take the opportunity?

I don't have a steady income yet but I'm managing.

What expenses are you able to manage without steady income?

I am on the lookout for a job that pays the bills

Its a good idea. Make it real.

bills have to be paid

I agree 1000%

my mom is taking me and my sister on the trip of a lifetime

Interesting. Is this the main issue?

I don't want to be broke when we get there.

Being shamed because you still rely on others for help?

It's time to step out of isolation.

Did this shaming in the past or even now make you feel traumatized and compelled to seek security by being by yourself? Or sheltered/isolated by somebody else?

I am feeling some pressure to come up with solutions quickly.

Who is pressuring and how?

not stressing to much about the future of my business. I am doing something I really love.

Great, optimism. This is positive. Its your light in the darkness. You love what you do. But now the question:

I asked the I Ching:

Exactly, this is thinking, to be more accurate, IMAGINING, but not acting. So, is this question able to spur you into action if needed? Lets see.

what to expect on the financial front for the immediate future, the next two months:

Financial Front. This is a warlike situation. Organized discipline is necessary or peace has to be reached, maybe even surrendering. Two months until the trip. Well lets see, you got what?

I received hex 28.2 to 31.

I am not very good at interpreting without knowing more about you, but in 28 to 31 there is "too much" going on and it is conditioned by "influence", being influenced. The original line speaks about some old person (rigid values, beliefs, policies) getting the young female´s (learning by assimilation) attention and by that growing younger? Not sure if it is relevant. Your story has an older person, your mother. Is her lifestyle not sustainable for you, maybe even not desired by you? Is your sister older than you, are you being influenced with her? Or is it the other way around? Are there other persons in the field? A demanding boss? A sugar daddy? Just teasing with the last one. Not my business.

Keep it simple. Find the job you need, learn something new, go on the trip, be happy by spending in your terms, start over again whatever is not working for you. And please update, if you like. Merci.

 

[dancingfox]

Bonjour Hermit,

First of all, wow! I am impressed with how you break down my story and how constructive you move to the heart of the matter. Interesting to note how by my choice of words I unconsciously give away so much more about my situation. My finances do feel like I am on a financial war front.

To answer your questions to my background I really needed to dive deep but I don't mind. I like diving deep. At it's core it is a story about trauma.

Yes, I took the opportunity to focus 100% on my business. I manage to pay my monthly expenses but any bills outside this context I have to stall, any social engagement I have to decline. I recognised what needs to change and took action. I am resourceful about finding work and I have several job interviews lined up next week.

The main issue is the trip... and my mother. My mother wasn't able to give me and my sister a safe or reliable childhood. Growing up we never had a lot of money. My mom came into a large sum of money through hardship. Now she wants to take me and my sister on this dreamtrip because she wants to give us something she wasn't able to give when we grew up. Because of this, saying no to this trip just doens't feel like a viable option. I think this trip has the potential to bring us closer together and equal potential to deepen the rift between me, my sister versus our mother. The energy between me and my mother is very tense. I feel like she wants to control me somehow and I keep setting boundaries with her. Despite this tension there is enough love to go around.

This year I am finishing a course in therapy. I gained insights and the tools to start healing from childhood trauma. I learned that self isolating and not asking for help are my coping mechanisms because it wasn't safe for me to express my needs when I was a kid. Neither my mom or my dad learned how to regulate their emotions and so, neither did me or my sister. We had to learn this by ourselves. I know I am still learning.

Optimism yes because I love what I do. I am a deeply spiritual woman and my business is evolving into facilitating women's circles. Starting my business is part of my healing journey since belonging as opposed to isolation is the way to go for me. Women's circles are all about belonging and finding your place.

No sugar daddies I am single and don't have kids. Starting my business is my way of creating intent and purpose to my life. Me and my sister are best friends. I think each in our own way we greatly influence eachother. I know my sister really needs me to be there on that trip and we are always there for each other.

I basically know what to do in order to move forward but my coping mechanisms create a lot of inner turmoil. It is a slow work in loving progress

 

[The Hermit]

Bonjour Hermit,

First of all, wow! I am impressed with how you break down my story and how constructive you move to the heart of the matter. Interesting to note how by my choice of words I unconsciously give away so much more about my situation. My finances do feel like I am on a financial war front.

To answer your questions to my background I really needed to dive deep but I don't mind. I like diving deep. At it's core it is a story about trauma.

Yes, I took the opportunity to focus 100% on my business. I manage to pay my monthly expenses but any bills outside this context I have to stall, any social engagement I have to decline. I recognised what needs to change and took action. I am resourceful about finding work and I have several job interviews lined up next week.

Merci beaucoup Madame,

I use this technique when people ask me to interpret their dreams. It's cold reading or just an interview highlighting cold factual data, not emotions or desires. If you read in the original text only the parts that I omitted, you will see another image. Dive deep, because we all love and secretively admire fearless people. They are the ones who were not afraid to take the first branche brûlante.

Before I forget. Not going on the trip sound viable and probably the best thing to do. Working hard and getting your social life going, that sounds both very interesting and mature. Believing in a "miracle" trip that will erase all harm, is too much going on. Too much 28.2. What does the Fan Yao say? This seems to be excellent advise. Hex 31, line 2 says (Legge):

"The second SIX, divided, shows one moving the calves of his leg. There will be evil. If he abide (quiet in his place), there will be good fortune."

Back to you, Fräulein Tanzender Fuchs

 

[Liselle]

Dancingfox's question wasn't about the trip, though. Yi can change the subject and/or answer more than you strictly ask, but I'm wary of assuming it did.

If it was me, I'd think hard about the trip (pros, cons, the possible ramifications of going and not going), and then ask Yi a specific trip question.

 

[dancingfox]

Guten tag herr Hermit, Liselle

Hermit, I dabble in interpreting dreams myself. So I see you empathise where there is optimism, phsysis. You pose open questions where there is room for more clarity. I'd like to try this method myself.

I am still looking at the parts of my text jou omitted but right now I can't see the forest through the trees. I recognise organised discipline, hex 7 as a tool to navigate my warfront. I can see how acting in this way will get me through the next months. When we start with the facts we don't let emotions take the lead and a solutions arises.

I didn't know the story about the burning branch and myths and stories are my absolute favorite thing in the world. So thank you for that! I get how it applies to my own predicament, I am still studying it.

This travel package was really expensive. If I pull back now my mother might not get her money back despite the travel insurance. I expressed my concerns about the trip, both financially and emotionally since day one. I even suggested for my mother and my sister to go without me but they wouldn't have it. We arranged for the three of us to talk about the trip this week again. Everything on the table. I worry this will turn out in my disadvantage no matter how I look at it.

If I say no my mom will lose a lot of money and she will make me feel guilty about it for the rest of my days. Despite the criticism I will remain financially stable, find a job quicker and enjoy my social life again. Looking at the fan yao 31.2: I remain in place, storing the influence as potential energy instead of squandering it in reaction. This does support the option to stay home.

If I say yes the tension between me and my mother will most lilely ruin parts of the trip. I will feel resentment towards my mother and my sister for putting me in a financially and emotionally difficult position, even if it's my own responsility for not being able to set boundaries with them. In the meantime I will feel like a horrible person.

No matter how I look at it, I remain at an impasse. I can see what is happening, I can see my own share... but still feeling blocked

And what about my original question? I mean about my financial situation and not the trip? Because to me, I was reading 28.2 as a positive sign, about opening up and making space for something new.

But Hermit, you point out that 28.2 is about some old person (rigid values, beliefs, policies) getting the young female´s (learning by assimilation) attention and by that growing younger. In my reading I can see this as a more negative influence. I recognise my mother in this image because I feel she often seems to demand my attention, my energy and it can be exhausting at times.

I will meditate on the proper question to ask the I Ching about the trip. I know this is about creating new options for myself.

 

[The Hermit]

Fräulein Atemberaubender Fuchs;

I think your understanding about your inner symbolic world and your perception of the outer world are coherent and deep.

I will only say the following about "miracle" trips. They do not work. Small, unambitious trips together, managable time together is the key to not over do it, or simply said, to not make the same mistake over and over.

End up being isolated with an abusive person whom attention we would love in a healthy way, but always get in the most toxic way. That is selfabuse, the mature thing is to abstain from such events.

Who understand this is smart. and will have good luck. Who doesn´t, is being influenced and has no longer anything to say, loss of selfdetermination. I really don´t like that option. It makes me cringe. If a sacrifice has to be done, why my head, again? I would respectfully pass, as soon as I can, on the trip, if I were you. But I am not you. And that is the lucky part for me.

Hermit, I dabble in interpreting dreams myself. So I see you empathise where there is optimism, phsysis. You pose open questions where there is room for more clarity. I'd like to try this method myself.

Nice, I´ll follow you on this. No problem.

I am still looking at the parts of my text jou omitted but right now I can't see the forest through the trees. I recognise organised discipline, hex 7 as a tool to navigate my warfront. I can see how acting in this way will get me through the next months. When we start with the facts we don't let emotions take the lead and a solutions arises.

"I focus 100% on starting up my business for a couple of months ...so I can do more with my life When I decide to focus on a project I tend to forget about my social life. I wish I had more room to move on like this, but bills had* (modified) to be paid. Life is happening all around me and with Spring in the air, I am reminded that I like being a part of life and I long for connection. It's time to step out of isolation.

I (will take) finding a job that doesn't take up to much headspace but pays the bills.

I asked the I Ching what to expect on the financial front for the immediate future, the next two months:
I received hex 28.2 to 31.

Hex 28: the situation can't go on as it is, or the ridgepool will break.

Line 2: this line gives me hope. It's about opening up and making space for something new, that yes it will be a challenge to find the energy that is needed for my plans to come to fruitition, but it's a labor of love so energy will flow naturally. Also, I applied for a job at one of my previous employers. I was hoping they would perhaps hire me back. I didn't leave on bad terms. Could there be a connection with line 2? The withered willow as my old employer sprouting a shoot? A new job opportunity? I applied as a project manager for a new project. I wonder.

Hex 31 is all about being drawn, in this case to something new (28.2)"

Very insightful. I think the real problem is here too, living your life as an adult, free of coercive affection and in some control of your destiny. Or is it just the potential? Keep us posted, dear. Dive deep. Come back with the gold nuggets.

 

[Trojina]

But Hermit, you point out that 28.2 is about some old person (rigid values, beliefs, policies) getting the young female´s (learning by assimilation) attention and by that growing younger. In my reading I can see this as a more negative influence. I recognise my mother in this image because I feel she often seems to demand my attention, my energy and it can be exhausting at times.

If you took that from it I think you'd be going about as far from the meaning of the line as you possibly could. It's a good idea to see what the I Ching itself says


'Withered willow sprouts a shoot,
Venerable husband gets a woman to wife.
Nothing that does not bring harvest.'

So it would be tragic to cast such a lovely line and come to the idea that this is about something negative about an old person. It is not and to go that route is to distort the meaning of the line beyond recognition IMO.

You can see it speaks of new life coming from something old. It's lovely, it's fresh growth from the old. But no way can this in a totally anti older lady/person/tree way as you have described here. Look this is a 'venerable husband' , it's not old as in rigid and decrepit and all those negative things at all. If an older venerable man takes a young wife he can impregnate her despite his age, that's the meaning. An older man sparks new life, an old tree sprouts a shoot. An old relationship rejuvenates and if we take it in context of your actual question which was

I asked the I Ching what to expect on the financial front for the immediate future, the next two months:
I received hex 28.2 to 31.

...then there's some fresh input from an existing or old source you thought had dried up.

Young females learn like anyone else, I have no idea where that idea of young females learning by assimilating comes from, obviously young women have brains like anyone else but the point is not about learning anyway this is about something reviving and regenerating and so relieving pressure. So we are in 28, Great Exceeding, a time of extremity where it's a crisis really, looks like things come to a head and within that situation something new comes from it.

In short, I don't think this cast can be made to say something negative about your mother, I think that would be a great stretch and a distortion of the cast.

 

[dancingfox]

Hi everyone

Just quoting myself here bc what Trojina said and to update.

I think this trip has the potential to bring us closer together and equal potential to deepen the rift between me, my sister versus our mother. The energy between me and my mother is very tense. I feel like she wants to control me somehow and I keep setting boundaries with her. Despite this tension there is enough love to go around.

Me and my mother are both aware of our dynamics. There is a toxicity to the relationship, we are both responsible for that. Despite our tension there really is a lot of love and shared intent to work on our relationship. I am genuinely worried about how our dynamics will influence the trip because I know we aren't there yet

And what about my original question? I mean about my financial situation and not the trip? Because to me, I was reading 28.2 as a positive sign, about opening up and making space for something new.

Now I can see this line applying to my relationship with my mother in a positive way. Making space for something new in our relationship. I don't think any of us look at this trip as miracle trip, like making a baby to fix a broken relationship. I also see my mom making a genuine effort to become closer to me and my sister. My mom went through years of repeated traumatic events, much worse than me or my sister. I have seen her healing journey and I applaud her for that.

This afternoon we talked again. My mother offered to help me financially so I can go on this trip without getting a financial hangover. Pay it back when my situation improves. Looking at this reading I can see 28.2 unfolding, sprouting a shoot. I have trouble asking for help, and now help has been offered from my mother, the 'withered willow sprouting a shoot'.

I decided to sleep over it and get back to her tomorrow. Will update, as always.

 

[The Hermit]

Cher Renard doutant

Hi everyone

Just quoting myself here bc what Trojina said and to update.


Me and my mother are both aware of our dynamics. There is a toxicity to the relationship, we are both responsible for that. Despite our tension there really is a lot of love and shared intent to work on our relationship. I am genuinely worried about how our dynamics will influence the trip because I know we aren't there yet


Now I can see this line applying to my relationship with my mother in a positive way. Making space for something new in our relationship. I don't think any of us look at this trip as miracle trip, like making a baby to fix a broken relationship. I also see my mom making a genuine effort to become closer to me and my sister. My mom went through years of repeated traumatic events, much worse than me or my sister. I have seen her healing journey and I applaud her for that.

This afternoon we talked again. My mother offered to help me financially so I can go on this trip without getting a financial hangover. Pay it back when my situation improves. Looking at this reading I can see 28.2 unfolding, sprouting a shoot. I have trouble asking for help, and now help has been offered from my mother, the 'withered willow sprouting a shoot'.
I decided to sleep over it and get back to her tomorrow. Will update, as always.

The casting is one thing, my dear, the insight coming from it is another, never worry about what the IC says, another person or interpreter says, not even about what you are saying to yourself, if you have doubts. I am not saying, don´t have doubts, this is healthy, be critical, doubt as much as you can but always believe first in facts. One fact is clear: you had anxiety, and you needed an outside opinion.

Anyway, doubts are thoughts. Not action. Action creates facts. Action will make thoughts and doubts go away. Doubting is not bad, nor is it good, it just is a state of mind. Let it flow. Don´t worry, you will gain clarity and insight. Trust in that. Its a fact, You are alive and thriving. Keep going.

What is the correct action? Well, once you understand what is best for you, then knowing how to do the best for the rest is easy like a sunday morning. If you don´t know or ignore what is good for you, it is going to be very difficult to go forward with others. Why? Because your boundaries define who you are, not who they are, and if these boundaries are muddy, the self is muddy, others can't act accordingly. So don´t give them a chance to undermine you. Clear it up. See for yourself, what is acceptable, what is over the top, or too much, what can succeed and what will surely fail. Then act and be firm. Bonne chance mademoiselle. Weave ahead.

 

[dancingfox]

Cher Renard doutant


The casting is one thing, my dear, the insight coming from it is another, never worry about what the IC says, another person or interpreter says, not even about what you are saying to yourself, if you have doubts. I am not saying, don´t have doubts, this is healthy, be critical, doubt as much as you can but always believe first in facts. One fact is clear: you had anxiety, and you needed an outside opinion.

Anyway, doubts are thoughts. Not action. Action creates facts. Action will make thoughts and doubts go away. Doubting is not bad, nor is it good, it just is a state of mind. Let it flow. Don´t worry, you will gain clarity and insight. Trust in that. Its a fact, You are alive and thriving. Keep going.

What is the correct action? Well, once you understand what is best for you, then knowing how to do the best for the rest is easy like a sunday morning. If you don´t know or ignore what is good for you, it is going to be very difficult to go forward with others. Why? Because your boundaries define who you are, not who they are, and if these boundaries are muddy, the self is muddy, others can't act accordingly. So don´t give them a chance to undermine you. Clear it up. See for yourself, what is acceptable, what is over the top, or too much, what can succeed and what will surely fail. Then act and be firm. Bonne chance mademoiselle. Weave ahead.

Cher sage ermite

I can find myself in everything you are saying. I certainly struggle with my boundaries and sense of self but I know I am making progress to. The I Ching has been my guide for many years and with it, many of the wise and wonderful people on this forum. I have gotten so much insights, wisdom and compassion here, it's incredible.

What I am learning about boundaries is that they need to be dynamic. Not to keep everyone out. I used to keep everyone out, self isolating. I certainly kept my mother out for a very long time and with good reason. People do change and my mother started changing after a traumatic event some years ago. She went through deep grief and after this there was room for us to heal.

Doubting but also considering all of my options. My mother is not entirely toxic, and she does listen to what I have to say. Even the parts that hurt, and she works on her part. For me this is the most important sign. I can see her efforts, I can perceive the changes and how our relationship is improving, how she is improving. I want to make room for my mother in my life. If we can heal old wounds together we will feel the changes in all different parts of our lives. And healing can be muddy.

I decided to go on this trip and accept my mothers help. The anxiety is real and we will have to keep working on our boundaries. This is something I discussed with my mother yesterday. The recovery and healing of our relationship is also real and neither me or my mother expect miraculous healing from this trip. We discussed our boundaries, what is acceptable and what isn't and what needs to be seen from both sides.

This feels like the best course of action for me. Right now, I feel clearheaded and grounded again. These are my most important signs to go forward.

 

[The Hermit]

Cher sage ermite

I can find myself in everything you are saying. I certainly struggle with my boundaries and sense of self but I know I am making progress to. The I Ching has been my guide for many years and with it, many of the wise and wonderful people on this forum. I have gotten so much insights, wisdom and compassion here, it's incredible.

What I am learning about boundaries is that they need to be dynamic. Not to keep everyone out. I used to keep everyone out, self isolating. I certainly kept my mother out for a very long time and with good reason. People do change and my mother started changing after a traumatic event some years ago. She went through deep grief and after this there was room for us to heal.

Doubting but also considering all of my options. My mother is not entirely toxic, and she does listen to what I have to say. Even the parts that hurt, and she works on her part. For me this is the most important sign. I can see her efforts, I can perceive the changes and how our relationship is improving, how she is improving. I want to make room for my mother in my life. If we can heal old wounds together we will feel the changes in all different parts of our lives. And healing can be muddy.

I decided to go on this trip and accept my mothers help. The anxiety is real and we will have to keep working on our boundaries. This is something I discussed with my mother yesterday. The recovery and healing of our relationship is also real and neither me or my mother expect miraculous healing from this trip. We discussed our boundaries, what is acceptable and what isn't and what needs to be seen from both sides.

This feels like the best course of action for me. Right now, I feel clearheaded and grounded again. These are my most important signs to go forward.

estimé miss renard dansant;

Honestly, this is wonderful, I am glad for you. I wish you and your family the best, you got this. And if you want to, lets keep in touch, I am interested in knowing more about your dream journal, maybe I can show you some of my tricks, I was once also a fox. But that´s another story.

Just remember the three fundamental actions towards self love.
1) know yourself without lying to yourself,
2) accept yourself without rejecting any parts of you and
3) practice trust in yourself, over and over, until there is no more doubting.

Merci beaucoup, ce fut un grand plaisir de vous lire.

 

[dancingfox]

Esteemed Hermit,

I would love to learn more about interpreting dreams and discussing my dreamjournal!
I tried sendig you an email via this website but it doens't work. How may I reach you?
Let's connect and share insights

Warm greetigs from Belgium
Johanna

 

[The Hermit]

Esteemed Hermit,

I would love to learn more about interpreting dreams and discussing my dreamjournal!
I tried sendig you an email via this website but it doens't work. How may I reach you?
Let's connect and share insights

Warm greetigs from Belgium
Johanna

Please check your inbox, mademoiselle.

 

[The Hermit]

Look, its a cactus! This is for the teacher in you. Here is graphic view of the reading, how both hexagrams are related. What is too much in hexagram 28? Yang. In 31 there is an absence, line 2 is all yin, it is diminished, but not completely. The relating hexagram shows line 2, maybe mending the fabric, stitching it, being assimilated into yang to bond with yin. Just wanted to share with you. This is as good as it gets with me and paper flowers. I think I taught you a method here, unsconsciously. Idk..

 

[rosada]

Interesting how hexagram 28 appears to be on the verge of collapse yet when we change line 2, the trigram becomes Mountain and thus the breaking bridge is shored up and the image becomes one of a joyful Lake easily holding a manageable portion of Water rather than being washed out by an entire flood. A very positive omen for being able to create and maintain friendly boundaries!
Incidentally, in my experience the older partner turns out to be a more experienced, more capable friend - a welcome companion.

 

[dancingfox]

Interesting how hexagram 28 appears to be on the verge of collapse yet when we change line 2, the trigram becomes Mountain and thus the breaking bridge is shored up and the image becomes one of a joyful Lake easily holding a manageable portion of Water rather than being washed out by an entire flood. A very positive omen for being able to create and maintain friendly boundaries!
Incidentally, in my experience the older partner turns out to be a more experienced, more capable friend - a welcome companion.

Thank you Rosada,

This image reminds me of a workshop I followed when I was getting my social work degree called Rock and Water. It is a program developed for children, but on occasion also for adults, to help build confidence, setting boundaries and building up emotional control.

As to my reading, I follow your thoughts. I will update this thread when I return from the trip in late April.