What will 2016 bring? 1.2.3.4.5.6 to 24

[flitzer]

Hex 1, all lines changing except line 1, resulting Hex: 24.

I get an overall feeling of a good year ahead, that I'll somehow get to where I want to go after finally overcoming the things in my life that have been preventing me form reaching my goals. Other than that I really can't interpret so many changing lines. And Hex 1 always confuses me...

What do you think?

F

 

[diamanda]

It does sound like a good year ahead, but not one during which you can
"overcome all obstacles and get where you want to go". Hexagram 1 here
appears almost totally 'demolished' (five changing lines). The only line
which is still intact says "do not act, remain hidden", and resulting 24
shows an easy-going time, where you're out and about your own area,
a known familiar area where you move about with ease. It doesn't sound
to me to be a year for direct action, but it sounds great for cultivation,
for creating what you want to create indirectly, in secret, in conditions
of ease, without direct force applied.

 

[svenrus]

Many moving lines confuses me too, I agree with You. The five moving lines has reached their climax, about to leave their places into hex. 24 - well, that's not it - and the bottom-line seems to remain only. Alfred Huang got the advice from his master: "If five lines are moving consult the unmoving line" (1)
Acording the "Nanjing-rule" advice Nine in third place should be the answer [(55 - (7+9+9+9+9+9)) = 3] (2)
And according to this (3) article all of the lines should be taken into consideration.

Which to choose ?

1) Alfred Huang "The complete I Ching"
2) http://www.russellcottrell.com/VirtualYarrowStalks/NanjingiRules.htm
3) http://www.yijing.nl/structures/multiple-lines.htm & http://www.yijing.nl/i_ching/structures/index.html

 

[angelatlantis14]

Hi all,

this is a fascinating topic...I must say I do quite agree with the take expressed here, that if you get many moving lines you should
a) disregard them alltogether in favor of the sole nonmoving line
b) create some mathematical formula (svenrus I must admit I did not fully comprehend your Nanjing rule calculation ) that figures out which line was really meant.

Diamanda: I cannot see why many changing lines would mean a hex is "demolished"?
Change is natural, and sometimes much change is natural too...that does not invalidate the thrown hex IMO.
My personal take would be if you received a hexagram with many moving lines, this is the answer you were supposed to have - look at the hex first, and then at EACH of the lines that change. Since they are all connected this should give a clear picture of what is being said by the Yi here.
In the case of Hex 1 (2.2.4.5.6) --> 24 the story seems to be something along the lines of a great and powerful development for you coming, something very dynamic and, probably, hard to control.
So you are warned to be on your guard against overconfidence and arrogrance (Lines 3 and 6) and to stay receptive to good counsel from worthy sources (Line 2 and 5) . Then your life can take you to great heights (Line 4 and 5).
As would be natural from such a great dynamic change is that eventually you have to come down to earth again, and that is to me expressed in Hex 24, which reflects the natural cycle of change.
So in summary I'd interpret your reading as be prepared for great changes, try to stay grounded, and come back down safe to earth safely!

No offense intended to anyone who has a different opinion on how to work with many changing lines!

best wishes

maui

 

[svenrus]

Dear Miaui, I just pointed out that IF You chose the socalled "Nanjing-rule" (also expressed here) You'll get line three as the oracle....

LiSe got this very tempting point that all of the lines shall be taken into account and she explain why. The same with the Nanjing-rule ie the team behind it got an explanation for how it is as it is. Alfred Huang doesn't explain his masters rule, at least not in the copy I have and I haven't too found other explain why their rules are like they are.

Other rules: http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/learn/consult/mml.php

 

[canislulu]

And then there is the Transitional Hexagram method from Bradford's book pg. 44 which would render the reading thusly:

H 1.2 > 13.3 > 25.4 > 42.5 > 27.6 > H 24

When I receive a lot of moving lines I usually do what Maui did in terms of looking at all of the lines and then I also look at the transitional lines.

A year long reading perhaps gives an opportunity for viewing the reading in all of the ways suggested here.

 

[butterfly spider]

Just to hope
That 2016 will be a good year - xx

I had this reading once and I must say that whenever I get so many moving lines I do have to stand back and think

Someone once said that multiple lines were like stepping stones across a river. There are several you can step on to get to the otherside Or you could try and jump over them (you might get wet). You might choose 1245 or 1356 The thing is until you have moved forward to the next line you can't always see the best route. There is always the notion that you could tie a rope to a tree and swing across ignoring the stones completely - look at where you need to go

When crossing a river on stepping stones I do find that it is best aiming for the other side - looking down at individual stones increases the possibility of falling in my experience.
All moving lines - I think a swing or a jump myself

Xx

 

[angelatlantis14]

Dear Miaui, I just pointed out that IF You chose the socalled "Nanjing-rule" (also expressed here) You'll get line three as the oracle....

LiSe got this very tempting point that all of the lines shall be taken into account and she explain why. The same with the Nanjing-rule ie the team behind it got an explanation for how it is as it is. Alfred Huang doesn't explain his masters rule, at least not in the copy I have and I haven't too found other explain why their rules are like they are.

Other rules: http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/learn/consult/mml.php

Hi Svenrus,
thanks very much for the additional information! Interesting how many different approaches are out there, there is likely something for everyone...

Still, my opinion is unchanged - if you get an answer with 5 moving lines, then this is the answer you were supposed to have, and it would be needlessly restricting to consider only selected lines. After all, the Yi is fully capable of giving you an answer with no or only one changing line too

In the above case, it seems to say to me just that in order to get from Hex 1 to Hex 24, a lot of change is necessary.
thanks for your input!

maui

 

[svenrus]

Basically I agree with You (and LiSe). Once I got this hexagram with two moving lines: Fish in the tank and No fish in the tank don't have it here and now but there are other examples alike. Which to choose ?
It could be answered in the light of the Hieracy of the lines like: according to the internal affairs this and according to the external affairs that... (lower hexagram internal, upper external) but I'm not that skilled in the I to judge on that.

 

[butterfly spider]

I was thinking through the postings above - thank you to all -
I was also thinking that if one arrives at a stream or river crossing and there are 4 5 or 6 stepping stones - they are there for a purpose. If only one was needed then why put more? Rather like the I Ching - why bother giving you more moving lines than was necessary. Also the stones across a stream - going through each one gives one a better understanding of the water itself - you can stop perhaps and look at the fishes in the water ...

If the hexagram is unchanging then you can stay on the bank. If all the lines are changing you have a choice - but you do need to get to the otherside...
You can then either walk across or swing to the other side depending on how you feel at the time
I think that the resulting hexagram when all lines change is important - but so perhaps is the getting there

X

 

[flitzer]

Interesting reading, eh?

Thanks to everyone for the input. Judging from the number and diversity of the replies, this is not an easy one to interpret! Given that the reading concerns me and that I therefore have a subjective view of it that nobody else can have, I will say this: of all the approaches offered here I tend to go with the one consisting of taking all moving lines, just as they are. It is what fits the most with the expectations I have for the coming year. The fact that they entail so many changes, some of them conflicting, actually makes sense to me. As a matter of fact they are to be expected and a one line reading (e.g. going with Alfred Huang's way of taking only into consideration the one non-moving line) just doesn't resonate with me. Concerning the fact that some lines may be conflicting (Fish in the tank, No fish in the tank) that usually doesn't bother me as I often can find in these kind of readings the various factors/situations/people involved and how they play out against each other and what the final outcome will be.

Regarding the resulting Hex 24, that Maui suggests is a warning to keep my feet on the earth, I see it in a different way. I have been working hard the last 3 years on getting back on track and I'm expecting 2016 to see my efforts come to fruition. The close of an old cycle and the beginning of the new one. Hence my first impression of 'overcoming the things in my life that prevented me from reaching my goals.' Other recent readings concerning specific situations and how they'll turn out in the new year were all positive. It seems that the things that have been holding me back in my life will disappear for good. Hence the return to where I really want to be...through the various phases of the Creative. It works for me this way but then the new year, as it rolls out, will tell. I guess I'll come back to this reading many times during the year!

Thanks to all who took the time to reply and Happy New Year to everybody!

F

 

[angelatlantis14]

Well, I hope we get an update from you at this time the next year
Hapy New Year to everyone on this thread too!

 

[butterfly spider]

thinking too that hex 24 does imply feet firmly on the earth - and would fit well with getting to the otherside of the river onto the river bank. also the idea that the fish swim under and around the stepping stones - ie fish then no fish. also the fact that each stepping stone will be different - some will be solid and shiny others will be small and dull. a bit like the stages we go through in a year...

happy new year everyone ..

 

[svenrus]

And then there is the Transitional Hexagram method from Bradford's book pg. 44 which would render the reading thusly:

H 1.2 > 13.3 > 25.4 > 42.5 > 27.6 > H 24

When I receive a lot of moving lines I usually do what Maui did in terms of looking at all of the lines and then I also look at the transitional lines.

A year long reading perhaps gives an opportunity for viewing the reading in all of the ways suggested here.

Which is originally to be found on page 64 to 69 in Mondo Secters book. (Link to Google-read)