...life can be translucent

Menu

what will happen to rescue dog 7.2.>2

hopex

visitor
Joined
Jun 8, 2011
Messages
704
Reaction score
19
I have been arranging my life to get a dog that has been at the
animal shelter TOO long and is showing psychological problems.

He was in my mind all week and today they say he is being scanned
for head tumours and may be put down on wednesday due to his
change in behaviour. I think he just needs re-homed but this problem
has occurred and they wont let him out.

I asked Yi to comment on the news I received today 7 line 2 changing
to 2 seemed very hopeful.

I dreamed of him being happily in the park with me this week so I am
shocked his life is at stake. I asked will I get Bruce the dog as I envisaged
Yi responded 50.3.6 > 40

I am petitioning for his release - the line said 3 times maybe I need to fight
for them to let him have a chance of living in a home as he has become stir-
crazy in the monotony of kennel life. Please help with interpretation as i
am kind of sad as I have fallen in love with this slobbery four footed friend
thanks
 

foxx777

visitor
Joined
Apr 22, 2012
Messages
708
Reaction score
137
Oh, I do hope you will get the pooch! :) I see your lines as very hopeful, auspicious in every way:

To me, the line below are saying that Bruce has a problem, but it will clear up and he will be released to you:


50. The Caldron
Line 3:

An ear of the caldron breaks off,
so that one is stopped from moving it.
The fat pheasant is not eaten.
Right then the rain wanes.
Aversion, but eventually good fortune.

There is a problem that stops one from moving the result of the transformation to where it is needed. Things will go well again, this situation is just a temporary setback.
Line 6:

The caldron has jade carrying rings.
Much good fortune.
Without disadvantage.

The situation is in an excellent condition, the results of the transformational work are ready to be moved to where they are needed. This will have a lasting influence. Things are going very well. There is no disadvantage to this.


Hexagram is changing to:
40. Release

Release.

Beneficial is the southwest.
Without a situation to go to,
coming back brings good fortune.
If one does need to go somewhere,
doing it early in the morning brings good fortune.

It is good to release what one was doing and return to the normal situation. It is beneficial to have partners and allies. If something still needs to happen, it is wise to do that on a short term.
(At the original place and time of the Yijing, allies were in the southwest.)

I also see 7.2 as more or less saying that it has been conferred, somehow, that he will be yours. At least that is how I have always taken that line. Also, that it is a matter of getting all in order.
7. The Army
Line 2:

Being amidst the army.
Good fortune, without fault.
The king three times gives orders.

Participating fully in a team. Things go well, this is not wrong. The team receives orders from a superior that need to be carried out.

Please let us know what happens!!!:)
 
Last edited:

hopex

visitor
Joined
Jun 8, 2011
Messages
704
Reaction score
19
foxx777 - thank you so much. Indeed I need to prepare the home
for him. Being stuck in the office and guarding all the time has sent
him crazy. It is manic by day and lonely from 5pm to 7 am for him alone
there. THANK YOU I feel guilty no to have taken him sooner before they
decided to Xray him under anaesthetic to see if the hits he got as a pup
have caused brain damage. (if they find anything they will put him down:() God willing he is just long overdue a proper home
and owner X X to you - will post on wednesday X
 

foxx777

visitor
Joined
Apr 22, 2012
Messages
708
Reaction score
137
foxx777 - thank you so much. Indeed I need to prepare the home
for him. Being stuck in the office and guarding all the time has sent
him crazy. It is manic by day and lonely from 5pm to 7 am for him alone
there. THANK YOU I feel guilty no to have taken him sooner before they
decided to Xray him under anaesthetic to see if the hits he got as a pup
have caused brain damage. (if they find anything they will put him down:() God willing he is just long overdue a proper home
and owner X X to you - will post on wednesday X
Good, and I pray the I Ching is right, because it seems to be saying he will be yours after this temporary upset with the xrays. I think you are right, he is overdue for the proper home, so *fingers mightily crossed* for you and Bruce.
 

dragona

visitor
Joined
Jan 27, 2011
Messages
1,267
Reaction score
26
Poor guy, he was waiting in the rigid environment, overdue and ready and waiting....he may need time to adjust and to fulfill his full potential but I wish the both of you all the best.
 

foxx777

visitor
Joined
Apr 22, 2012
Messages
708
Reaction score
137
Please keep us updated on the situation with Bruce! xx
 

hopex

visitor
Joined
Jun 8, 2011
Messages
704
Reaction score
19
The reading turned out to be apt - hexagram 7. The army mobilised
namely myself and the dog home. I made enquiries 3 times and the
mandate of the people in charge is to act promptly for B's sake. Home
visits begin today to speed his hand over - 2 implies receving him.

50 . 3 shows B in a touch and go situation. In trying to explain his behaviour
they think of an expensive scan they cant afford. However its a matter of
psychology. Thats the blip in line 3 - a loving owner presents for B line 6 and
so he gets release. I am glad I stay with original he=castings these days - I used
to get an unintelligible answer and keep casting. However this has clealry panned
out as the Yi described. Namaste
 

foxx777

visitor
Joined
Apr 22, 2012
Messages
708
Reaction score
137
The reading turned out to be apt - hexagram 7. The army mobilised
namely myself and the dog home. I made enquiries 3 times and the
mandate of the people in charge is to act promptly for B's sake. Home
visits begin today to speed his hand over - 2 implies receving him.

50 . 3 shows B in a touch and go situation. In trying to explain his behaviour
they think of an expensive scan they cant afford. However its a matter of
psychology. Thats the blip in line 3 - a loving owner presents for B line 6 and
so he gets release. I am glad I stay with original he=castings these days - I used
to get an unintelligible answer and keep casting. However this has clealry panned
out as the Yi described. Namaste
You are so right. I used to do this, too - get a reading and think, "No, that can't be right" and keep casting, but "the Master says it once" is a good rule of thumb. Am SOOOOOO happy about the situation panning out, and cannot wait until Bruce and you are housemates for all time!!!:rofl:
 

hopex

visitor
Joined
Jun 8, 2011
Messages
704
Reaction score
19
Home Visit

How did Bruces' home visit go today ?

26.6 > 11

Bruce got his sausages - and wanted more ! He seemed very excited
in contrast to his dulled responses in the sanctuary. He was very
interested in everything and loved exploring the neighbourhood. He
looked sad to leave but enjoyed his adventure.

Tomorrow he is being reviewed and a good home visit report and a
keen potential owner should give him the chance he needs. He was
SOOO much brighter in a home environment. :)
 

foxx777

visitor
Joined
Apr 22, 2012
Messages
708
Reaction score
137
How did Bruces' home visit go today ?

26.6 > 11

Bruce got his sausages - and wanted more ! He seemed very excited
in contrast to his dulled responses in the sanctuary. He was very
interested in everything and loved exploring the neighbourhood. He
looked sad to leave but enjoyed his adventure.

Tomorrow he is being reviewed and a good home visit report and a
keen potential owner should give him the chance he needs. He was
SOOO much brighter in a home environment. :)
Oh, of COURSE he was, and that is a very auspicious oracle for dear sweet Bruce - I think he is going from "Major Restraint" to a time of gain and harmony:

26. Major Restraint

Line 6:

What is natural?
This is a crossroads.
Progressing.

One is at a crossroads, and has to make a choice as to what is in accordance with what one really wants. Making that choice is real progress.

11. Passing Through

Passing through.
Little goes, much comes.
Good fortune, progressing.

Things move easily and supplely. Gains clearly outweigh the losses. Things go well and there is progress.
:):):)
 

hopex

visitor
Joined
Jun 8, 2011
Messages
704
Reaction score
19
I REALLY appreciate that foxx777 - isn't the Yi amazing ! ?
THANK YOU:hug:
 

hopex

visitor
Joined
Jun 8, 2011
Messages
704
Reaction score
19
Bruce has been delivered and is sleeping - sort of
snoring really - he was a little anxious

I asked Yi how he was doing and 53.3.6 > 23:eek

well for now he is resting - he was put on tramodol
yesterday I am wondering if Yi feels its not agreeing
with him. It is for today calming him

I asked will he settle in ok - response 25.4 > 42
 
Last edited:

dragona

visitor
Joined
Jan 27, 2011
Messages
1,267
Reaction score
26
I wish I could say I understand the castings you had perfectly...but to me it looks like he is in transitional state now and that is not easy as a rule.
I dislike the drug induction...stability and loving owner should give him fulfilment he was created to have. How can a dog stay his normal self kept in the cages or however...no matter he gets care, am not diminishing that.. just that he should be settled in a good situation first and if showing problems then, it would be indicating something is wrong..wrong way arround to be judged, poor dog...
I don`t think you gave the age or the breed out yet...
Hope he is with you soon and for good..how long till it happens?
 
Last edited:

Trojina

Supporter
Clarity Supporter
Joined
May 29, 2006
Messages
26,991
Reaction score
4,496
Bruce has been delivered and is sleeping - sort of
snoring really - he was a little anxious

I asked Yi how he was doing and 53.3.6 > 23:eek

well for now he is resting - he was put on tramodol
yesterday I am wondering if Yi feels its not agreeing
with him. It is for today calming him

I asked will he settle in ok - response 25.4 > 42

Would you say the dog is naturally near the end of his life ? You said in your first post that he was being x rayed for head tumours. Were those scans clear ? Did the animal shelter recommend that he be put down and kind of give in to you because you wanted him ? Or did they feel he had a clean bill of health and release him without any warnings etc ?

53.3.6>23 might be read a number of ways...one of which I have to say I see as he may be ready to go....? Is that far from possible now ?
 

Trojina

Supporter
Clarity Supporter
Joined
May 29, 2006
Messages
26,991
Reaction score
4,496
You have to differentiate between what you want and what the dog wants....its always a challenge but if a dog is suffering what we want is of no consequence...hard as it is for us to let them go.

I could be way off here if hes full of life and not sick at all...! I just was getting mixed messages from the thread ?
 

foxx777

visitor
Joined
Apr 22, 2012
Messages
708
Reaction score
137
Bruce has been delivered and is sleeping - sort of
snoring really - he was a little anxious

I asked Yi how he was doing and 53.3.6 > 23:eek

well for now he is resting - he was put on tramodol
yesterday I am wondering if Yi feels its not agreeing
with him. It is for today calming him

I asked will he settle in ok - response 25.4 > 42
I am wondering if the second oracle (very positive) may be confirming your intuition that the meds may not be agreeing with him. I have had experiences with cats, dogs, and horses not reacting well to meds.

Could this be the meaning of 53.3.6. >23? That you should follow your intuition, and just let him settle in naturally? That is my sense of it. Meds may be bad, ( a "pretense", to be avoided) but with your persistant help, he will settle in fine:

25. Without Pretense

Line 4:

Persistence is possible.
Without fault.

The situation allows for carrying on as intended. It is not a mistake.
 

hopex

visitor
Joined
Jun 8, 2011
Messages
704
Reaction score
19
foxx777 - right again - the meds are too much for
him affecting his breathing - he is being decreased
on them tout de suite !! THANKS
 

Trojina

Supporter
Clarity Supporter
Joined
May 29, 2006
Messages
26,991
Reaction score
4,496
Bruce has been delivered and is sleeping - sort of
snoring really - he was a little anxious

I asked Yi how he was doing and 53.3.6 > 23:eek
well for now he is resting - he was put on tramodol
yesterday I am wondering if Yi feels its not agreeing
with him. It is for today calming him

I asked will he settle in ok - response 25.4 > 42

Actually, just noticed, 53.3.6 changes to hexagram 8 not hexagram 23.
 

hopex

visitor
Joined
Jun 8, 2011
Messages
704
Reaction score
19
Thank you for chipping in Dragona and Trojan !
Bruce is here now - there are no cages etc - indeed
he is splayed out on his comfy bed - they estimate
him at 3 to 4 years old.

He was found beaten by the road - he became very depressed
in the kennel and became even thinner. He was put in the
sanctuary office with outside area but all the comings and
goings exhausted him. He was in the office over a year -
vulnerable dogs do not stay that long. There was a special
appeal to home him. I went.

He did a visit with me - he has been
here two days and is a most loving fellow.

he is eating drinking walking - but he froze in the street when he
saw the lunchtime workmen (read he was abused by men)

tramadol reduced - to be stopped. He is fine he was not a kennel
dog and he couldnt stay in the office at the sanctuary. They would
have let him but he was finding it too much staff visitors vollunteers.

He is a big dog - a mastiff cross but a big scaredy and is like scooby doo.
:)

No Trojan - they decided it was psychological not organic - he has a
vet at the end of the line 24/7 - between myself and the Head of the
Sanctuary we decided he should be fostered at my home - which is
quiet and i am home most of the day with work

I asked Yi
How is Bruce now today ? 25.4 > 42
 
Last edited:

hopex

visitor
Joined
Jun 8, 2011
Messages
704
Reaction score
19
whoops

I asked is Bruce good for me and Yi replied 42.6 > 3

I am now pretty worried - why when you have had posotive and helpful
castings is a worrying one thrown in ? or maybe its my anxiety at being
responsible - its a big commitment not done much work - I am used to the
Yi sending a friendly 4 and I get the message

any help appreciated thank you
 

Trojina

Supporter
Clarity Supporter
Joined
May 29, 2006
Messages
26,991
Reaction score
4,496
whoops

I asked is Bruce good for me and Yi replied 42.6 > 3

I am now pretty worried - why when you have had posotive and helpful
castings is a worrying one thrown in ? or maybe its my anxiety at being
responsible - its a big commitment not done much work - I am used to the
Yi sending a friendly 4 and I get the message

any help appreciated thank you

LOL I wouldn't take this too harsh..but it re iterates what I said a few posts ago about putting him first if he were very ill and you wanted him to stay alive for you rather than thinking of him. Perhaps it is just reminding you always to see your care for him in terms of what is good for him not for you. If it were my answer after the last few answers you got I'd take it a bit like a bit of a dig from a friend...its like "c'mon don't get too cocky here,,,this isn't actually about you you know"


Apart from that I do thinkits necessary to stop casting at a certain point on any particular issue. There is the theory that a good augury can turn around if you keep asking ! Well I'm not sure about that but I do think theres a time to stop asking.

BTW I did point out that 53.3.6 changed to hex 8 not hex 23....which looks a bit better.


Just make sure any decisions you may have to make are for his benefit not yours. I don't doubt you and of course it is a very kind thing you have done for the dog...I'm just saying Yi is giving a bit of a warning here perhaps. I don't know why but it is so have a bit of a critical eye on your motives if need be in the future


I have to say the 53.3 is not a great answer and i don't believe in skimming over the truth of what Yi says for the sake of so called 'positivity'. 53.3 is always about someone abandoning some kind of responsibility or not being able to live up to it.


I actually think you have a fair amount of work to do here, in yourself. Its like getting married....to a dog LOL but you made a commitment, its not all about enjoyment, you are with him though the thick and the thin. I think you may have to learn about caring and selflessness with the dog which isn't always easy....and like all marriages the dog/owner union can have its off days. The 42.6 may be a useful reminder to you in upcoming difficulties with him....not that I'm saying there will be, but if you have a down day and wonder if you did the right thing I think Yi has pointed several times now to the fact of this commitment not always being easy...and you having to learn what it actually means. Both in 53.3 and 42.6.

hey i didn't say it it was Yi
 
Last edited:

hopex

visitor
Joined
Jun 8, 2011
Messages
704
Reaction score
19
sorry all - it was 53.3.5 > 23

I just checked thanks for pointing it out Trojan
I just saw the second hexagram instantly so it stuck in my head

Could stripping away be taking things out of his medication ?
I am thinking 42.6 is telling me that I am neglecting paid work

However I needed something else besides work and worries -
to think about. Having been a single parent I was not coping well
with having noone to provide for/look after and working alone all the time
 

foxx777

visitor
Joined
Apr 22, 2012
Messages
708
Reaction score
137
whoops

I asked is Bruce good for me and Yi replied 42.6 > 3

I am now pretty worried - why when you have had posotive and helpful
castings is a worrying one thrown in ? or maybe its my anxiety at being
responsible - its a big commitment not done much work - I am used to the
Yi sending a friendly 4 and I get the message

any help appreciated thank you
This is the sort of thing which happens to me all of the time. It could possibly be your own anxiety reflecting back to you:

Since I have switched from the Wilhelm to the Berkers transl/comm, I find the latter often does indeed reveal my own worries and thoughts , mirrored back. What do you see in this?

42. Benefiting

Line 6:

In no way benefiting this.
Someone assaults him.
Stubbornness should not endure.
Misfortune.

One is not in any way benefiting the situation. Others are probably irritated by this. It is not a good idea to stubbornly persist in this attitude. Things don't go well.
Could this be the I Ching chiding you for having asked if Bruce was good for you, as it was more or less understood that he was? And that you had done the right thing, and were both good for each other??? OH NO, JUST SAW ABOVE NOW.:rant:
 

hopex

visitor
Joined
Jun 8, 2011
Messages
704
Reaction score
19
Thanks - you are right foxx777 - it was already assumed
he was good :)
 

foxx777

visitor
Joined
Apr 22, 2012
Messages
708
Reaction score
137
Thanks - you are right foxx777 - it was already assumed
he was good :)
Well, I admit, I myself often engage in what I call "I Ching abuse":rofl: - I ask and ask and ask, until a horrid line like 62.3 or 62.6 comes up to shut me up. .:eek::eek::p
 

mazaru

visitor
Joined
Jul 14, 2008
Messages
226
Reaction score
12
How is B doing now? Is he still with you? I would love an update!
 

Clarity,
Office 17622,
PO Box 6945,
London.
W1A 6US
United Kingdom

Phone/ Voicemail:
+44 (0)20 3287 3053 (UK)
+1 (561) 459-4758 (US).

Top