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Grandma

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That's fine with me. But I am very bad at interpreting these deeper meanings. Yesterday (the same day the guy came and gave me more fuel) I got let go from my temp job. So now I am in a financial quandry again. I am wondering if the ic could be referring to this too? (Grasping at straws, perhaps)
 

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Oh no...
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That latest calamity does put a damper on 50.2 as praise of your financial management. I mean, being careful and cautious (10) doesn't hold up very well under the onslaught of losing one's income.

But the other applications of 50.2 make even less sense.

Maybe Yi was trying to give you an even bigger morale boost than it appeared. You said 50.2 seems to apply to your life in general - maybe Yi's saying that even with this latest setback you will still pull through. Don't you have a job-related thread going? Maybe good news on that front will come through at the last second.

*crosses fingers*
 

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I do have a job related one going.
but the civil service jobs don't look promising. I don't really want them, I just was feeling despaerate.
Thanks again
 
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Dear Susan

Just in case the commentarie could be useful

According with traditional teachings, day-to-day world has its roots in ideal/spiritual world (King Wen's secuence and Fu Hsi secuence).

It means that every great change in our day-to-day issues begin with a little change in the spiritual world. And, some times, you can not solve a day-to-day issue if you don't undestand previuosly its root in the ideal world. Even more, some times the only way to face some issues is working in this ideal/spiritual world (offer sacrifice.. aproach to the temple, and so on).

Maybe, in this hard time for you, you could find lightining ask in this level. Not the day-to-day but the bigger causes about your situation. You could ask: What is the general diagnosis about my labor time?

Hope it could be useful to improve your life.

Best wishes
 

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What do you mean about my labor time? Do you mean work? What is the general diagnosis about my "work life" I am not sure what you mean.
 

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The IC responds to a question by returning ALL hexagrams sorted in an order. EACH hexagram contributes to the WHOLE and so ANY particular hexagram will 'fit' whatever the question is about. Our consciousness ignores this dynamic and we derive 'random/miracle' methods to derive a hexagram as if it does reflect the 'moment'.

All 64 hexagrams apply to any moment. A PARTICULAR context (and so question) will sort the 64 into bestfit/worstfit but they will all still 'fit' in some way or another - because asking a question sets the ground THROUGH which we then interpret and the filter, the IC in this case, describes 'all there is', there is nothing outside of it. IOW if there IS something outside it will be interpreted as if inside and in doing so elicit paradox and so arguement (see comments in

http://members.iimetro.com.au/~lofting/myweb/paradox.html )


random/miracle methods will give a 'good' hit 1 in 64 on average. Skew the method of derivation and you can reduce the odds (and our consciousness will often FORCE our thinking to agree with the derived hexagram!)

Understanding this and using generic questions can aid in ensuring that the 'best fit' is consistant. (probability is over an infinite time span and so 1 in 64 allows for the correct best fit to happen by chance 64+ times in a row! BUT, over the infinite time span it will average out to 1 in 64)

Chris.
 

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Susan,

I did start that thread I mentioned, over in the Divination Discussion area: here.Several people have already plowed through my very looong post and contributed thought-provoking comments.

My apologies, by the way, this was a clear 'dingafritz' (airhead) moment on my part: I start a thread on a completely different discussion board and don't think to point you to it until a day later - apparently I assumed you'd just magically read my mind or something!
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*rolls eyes at self*
 

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Lightofdarkness,

Would you be willing to explain how what you're saying applies to Susan's reading about her stove not working? She got 50.2 > 56.

It could maybe shed some light on the confusion some of us are having with the reading - in that it appeared to point clearly away from the possibility that she was out of fuel, which was subsequently proven false (she WAS out of fuel.)

If you'd rather add a comment to the Divination Discussion thread on the general divination problem, it's here.

Thanks!
 

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The question:

"Anyway I asked the ic and got 50.2-56. I asked why was the oven making a clicking noise? "

question is about a fact.
question was about what COULD something be.
She was being reactive.

= issues of thunder (surprise, sudden, new etc - the clicking will lead to the sudden emerging fire - unless there is no fuel then all you get is the clicking! - the particulars of the question are of no concern, their general qualities elicit meaning)

Scan all of the thunder-based hexagrams to get the best fit (e.g. 03 and its association with difficulties with the new/beginning! - Susan said this was a new experience for her in that she usually uses electric)

24, 27, 03, 42, 51, 21, 17, 25
 

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Dingafritz, that's a good word.
Maybe it was referring to the fact that I phsically had the money to pay for gas/propane, what we thought meant gas tank had fuel?
Does anyone know how to interpret Jessed's question?
What is the general diagnosis about my labor time? It seems like a good question except I need to reword labor time.
 
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Hi Susan


There are some mayor issues in our lifes. How we get the supplies we need for living is one of those mayor issues. That is "Labor Time", but not a particular job (in your case, a particular job-searching) but in a bigger spectrum.

"General diagnosis" also refers no to a particular situation, but the deep roots (or causes) of what we are living in the theme we ask(labor, relationship, spiritual development and so on)

Best wishes
 
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jesed

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Hope a metaphore could be useful:

Think in your life as a boat in the sea, just in the middle of a storm.

The day-to-day level is like ask: how is the motor? should I go faster? should I turn to the left? am I getting to much water?

The general diagnosis is like: how strong is the storm? what is its direction?

All mayor issues in our lifes (Spiritual Time, Relationship Time, Labor Time, Health Time) are like diferent seas.

You need to ask how is your motor, but some times the information you need in order to make wise choises is about the weather?

Best wishes
 
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jesed

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Dear Susan:

About the stove: we alredy know that gas was empty. But I wonder if there is a hidden problem on the gas stove: could be a leak of gas on it's basis...or could be an excessively open valve (see GreenOwl post in divination discussion forum)

Just in case, check this posibility out.

Best wishes
 

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Perhaps the reading meant the ting is not damaged and will soon be filed with food again when you repair it.i see it representing its future use in cooking.
 
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Maybe it's saying to cut off one of the stove's four legs. Then it will work.
 

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"Maybe it's saying to cut off one of the stove's four legs. Then it will work."

G-r-o-a-n.
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