Which way to go next...33.2.3 or 12.2

[starshine]

Hi So I am in India. I have stayed in the same place most of the time (after completing a yoga teacher training); working on my lap top and studying yoga. It's been an interesting but sometimes not an not easy time. It's now time to move on :

I asked the i ching first of all should I go to a meditation centre in Poona...(this would be immersing my self in different types of mediations) it's close by so not so much travel time...I got 33.2.3 changing to 6

Or should I go to Rishekesh to see my yoga teachers and my friend in Dehli (it's further away so have to pay for a plane there about £100 but it's in the mountains and I would like/be excited about seeing my friend even if it is only for a day or two) I got 12.2 changing to 6

Both seem quite negative...with conflict (hex 6) being the main hex. So then I decided to rephrase question as thought maybe both hexergrams seemed a bit stuck and it was a reflection of my should I or shouldn't I wording of the question. And my anxiety about making the 'right' decision..

So I asked again this time rephrasing the question to: 'would it be in my best and highest interest to go to Poona and the mediation centre now': I got 42.4 to 25

And then again would it be in my best and highest interest to go to Rishekesh to see my friend and then hang out/work they do yoga etcetera: I got 30.4.5.6 to 63

Both seem positive, though maybe even though i'd like to see my friend and yoga teacher right now the mediation centre would work best? Those are my thoughts from the hexagrams...any thoughts insights appreciated thanks

 

[canislulu]

Do you only have two options, or are there other possibilities of what to do next?

 

[starshine]

Well I have two weeks before my plane home and the world is my oyster so to speak...but I had narrowed it down to those two...

I think the problem is I should have gone to Rishekesh at the start of the week, but I didn't for various reasons, and now it's a bit late. The teacher training I could have assisted in will be in it's final week, and my friend is leaving...

I did want to go to the Osho centre...but I could stay where I am a bit longer as well...

Maybe the osho centre is just a stepping stone before my flight home...

 

[starshine]

I feel sad I missed my friend out here and maybe I miss my other friends and family as well. I've been away for 2.5 months, and working on my laptop restricts my travel a bit...although other times I'm really happy to be here.

 

[starshine]

By Osho centre I mean the mediation centre: but I too 42.4 as a positive hexagram: no?

 

[canislulu]

Starshine, thanks for more of the background. My quick take on it is that the relating hexagram of 6 for the first two readings reflects the conflict you are having about what to do with these two weeks that you have. The part of you that wants to go to Rishekesh is sad (30.5?) that you did not go sooner, but that does not mean you should have done that. To feel that way is to discount the parts of you "that didn't for various reasons" want to go there at the start of the week.

Re: 42.4 -- "Moving in the center, Notify the prince, he follows. Harvest in using this to act dependably and move the city". It does sound like moving on instead of staying where you are a bit longer.

Wikiwing says of 42.4 --

Wu Jing Nuan[2] points out that you need to get consensus to move a city (ie persuade all its inhabitants to move), and this can be difficult. Harvest comes from continuing, being consistent and dependable, earning trust.

Perhaps it speaks to overcoming the conflict the various parts of you are having about what to do next and the need to find a "center" in your self that can listen to your various inner voices and then make a decision.

Perhaps there is no "right" or "wrong" decision. Different choices will lead to different experiences. If you commit to the choice you make without second guessing yourself you will be able to be more present to the opportunities that come from that particular choice. Focus on the gain, not the loss. Every decision involves both.

I am wondering about about 33.3 "There is affliction, danger." What is the danger? Is there danger in staying where you are in that you will regret not moving on?

When you asked, "Should I go to ...Poona?" Is Yi's answer, "Retreat from your conflict?."

 

[starshine]

Hi thanks for the feedback. Well i do feel a bit stuck where I am. My laptop broke late night, someone knocked it off the table by mistake, and I will have to wait till I'm back in the UK to get it fixed. which could refer to the 'halted retreat' 33.3, as I am going to have to spend a few more days here, working at Internet shops before I go now, cause it will take longer to get my work completed with no laptop ... when really would like to leave now. A meditation center, is a kind of retreat in itself so 33 is quite relevant.

As for 42.4 well, maybe I need to persuade myself to move on, as I am worried about the internet there (for work) and do get a bit anxious when it comes to moving on in general though once I've done it I am usually happy/relieved. I do feel that being somewhere else will give me a fresh perspective and I don't want to spend all my time in one place. 42.4 also talks of disinterested truth, I saw that as not being too attached to my ego, or what I will gain from being at the mediation centre. Just go there and do what needs to be done balance the time between my work and and pleasure, without getting to concerned about whether I'm having a great time or what I'm achieving....or that I do have to work some of he time so can't put all my energy into being just there.

 

[canislulu]

I am still looking at your first cast, i.e., "Go to Poona?" 33.2.3 > 6.

I am wondering if Yi is saying, "Retreat from the idea of going to Poona. Hold onto what you have (33.2) There is danger in going (33.3)" OR as I said yesterday perhaps Yi is saying "Retreat from your Conflict."

Is the danger in going to the meditation center or the danger in not retreating from where you are now?
Can you make sure that you will be able to access the internet in Poona so that you can continue your work? How serious would it be for you not to be able to continue your work?

If you simply look at the trigrams of Hex. 33 --- Heaven on the Mountain --- How does that relate to your question? The 6 in the second place and the 9 in the third place would change the Mountain into a River.
You want to leave now, but would there be an advantage in stilling yourself instead of moving yourself?

Have you asked, "What if I stay here?"

 

[canislulu]

(Here is a small addition to what I said in #8 of this thread.)

When I look at the visual aspects of Hexagram 33 it looks like a person standing (the two lower yin lines being the legs). I am reminded of mountain pose in yoga. Hexagram 12 also looks like a person standing, only the legs are longer. Again, like mountain pose in yoga.

Would you still be able to see your friend and yoga teachers in Delhi? Would it be worth it to see your yoga teachers even if your friend is not still there? Would you have internet access to do your work there? Might there be better internet access in Delhi than in Poona?

(Hilary has an interesting blog on Learning Trigrams. You may want to read that and then consider your readings with her comments in mind.)

 

[starshine]

Hi well I have stayed on a few days where I am and am getting me work done here. Yea I do feel a bit sad that I am not in Rishekesh (it wasn't actually Dehli, my friend was flying out of there I could have joined her for a night or two in Dehli but too late now). It would have been good to see my yoga teachers in Rishekesh..but I have kinda missed the boat really. I mean I could go up and join them for the last few days, but at this point, I think it's best to base the decision of my location on where I want to go, not who I will see there, as they will be leaving Risheskesh in a week (and by the time I get there, there will only be a few days of the course left..) Practically it is also a long way to go. Poona is 13 hours by bus, it's the next state, where as Risheskesh, is a fight and then a train journey, it's the other side of India. I am happy to go to Poona and the Mediation centre. I feel like work is not such a problem now as I am getting it done. But yea I have missed out with Risheskesh, and should have gone a few weeks ago. I could still go, and maybe I would feel happier once I 'm there, but it is a massive detour as my flight back home is from South India. So I think I've made my decision now, and sometimes best not to go back and forth, but at least I can maybe go to Risheskesh next year gives me something to come back for. Who knows though I do sometimes spontaneously change my mind at the last minute, and after consulting the I ching, try to follow my heart as much as I can, so I will let you know what I do...or the out come...