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Currently can only sleep for 2 hours then wake due to generalised pain. After a couple of hours of wakefulness I am able to sleep for a further couple of hours and wake with minimal to no pain. I was previously in a high level management position located in an office (20 years) but changed jobs due to health issues. I now have a physical job (though not too demanding - 9 months) and am reasonably fit. This has been a positive change both physically and emotionally for me and I am happy in what I am doing now. Fatigue is starting to affect me though and I don't want it to spiral. Doctors just want to prescribe medication (aka sleeping pills etc) which to me treats the symptoms not the causes of imbalance so I shy away from these treatments as much as possible. I am now at the stage where I will need to try this path to treat the developing mental state that fatigue is producing. My interpretation of the Hex is "tuff it out" but would appreciate your point of view.
 
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The way I see it, the sleep problems seem to be related to your previous job. The fact that you write that you now have a physical job and previously held a high-level management position, I conclude that your previous job took a high toll on your mental well-being.
The upper trigram Wind in H61 also seems to refer to this. Wind is about the long term and related to the Wood element it is, among other things, about emotions. Out of balance because of the moving line, this has to do with not expressing emotions/feelings, but also living under high pressure. Trigram Wind is also connected to the liver, the organ that deals with anger and frustrations. Are these things you can relate to your previous job?
The change of this trigram into trigram Mountain indicates that a boundary has been set: you have changed jobs.
The name of H61 is Inner Truth or Innermost Sincerity. In your previous job, to what extent were you able to express your truth, how you saw things? Did your manager listen to what you had to say?

If you recognise yourself in the above, then H41 seems to hint that it is time to perhaps express your frustrations in one way or the other so that it gets out of your system.In other words it can decrease.
So it could be that you are not sleeping well because there is still something going on internally regarding your previous job that needs to be expressed first.

If you are willing to tell, what time do you wake up? Is it always around the same time? You also write that you wake up from generalised pain, but is there a body part that bothers you the most or is most painful?

As always, take what resonates and leave the rest ;)
 
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Currently can only sleep for 2 hours then wake due to generalised pain. After a couple of hours of wakefulness I am able to sleep for a further couple of hours and wake with minimal to no pain. I was previously in a high level management position located in an office (20 years) but changed jobs due to health issues. I now have a physical job (though not too demanding - 9 months) and am reasonably fit. This has been a positive change both physically and emotionally for me and I am happy in what I am doing now. Fatigue is starting to affect me though and I don't want it to spiral. Doctors just want to prescribe medication (aka sleeping pills etc) which to me treats the symptoms not the causes of imbalance so I shy away from these treatments as much as possible. I am now at the stage where I will need to try this path to treat the developing mental state that fatigue is producing. My interpretation of the Hex is "tuff it out" but would appreciate your point of view.
Why can't I sleep?
61:5 <> 41

'Centring and Connecting to the Spirits' through 'The Offering'

The reason why you can not sleep and get generalised pain in the middle of the night is that you are in the process of being brought back to a better place of balance, from which to live your future life.

The situation that you find yourself in wraps around you in a way that allows an unrestrained release of previously trapped emotions. This signifies for you the ending of an old cycle and the beginning of a new one, as what is below the surface is placed on offer and so diminishes and as a consequence what is above begins to increase (41).

61 connects to a new place where you can abide more easily in peace as you now focus on aligning your inner and outer worlds. Allow trust in your inner truth to spread out into your world, especially as you let go of historical thoughts, acts and behaviours that were slowly draining your soul.

61.5 - rather than seeing this as a situation where you need to 'tuff it out', this line directs you more to being the best that you can be. Work collaboratively with your inner world to enhance the process of decrease that is underway. Find ways that you can proactively engage with what is happening within you at this time. Trust yourself to know what is right for you. The sooner you can correct the situation the sooner you will discover the true connection that is working its way towards you in life.

The nuclear of 61, the energetic drive behind and at the root of what is happening, is Hexagram 27 The Tiger's Mouth, where Yi advocates that you carefully chose the words or thoughts that you express now, as well as to practice moderation in all aspects of the ways you sustain yourself. Thus providing your self with the type of nourishment that you need most at this time to realign yourself more fully with your Inner Truth.

... or this consultation might have other interpretations that resonate more closely with you.

Good Luck
 
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The way I see it, the sleep problems seem to be related to your previous job. The fact that you write that you now have a physical job and previously held a high-level management position, I conclude that your previous job took a high toll on your mental well-being.
The upper trigram Wind in H61 also seems to refer to this. Wind is about the long term and related to the Wood element it is, among other things, about emotions. Out of balance because of the moving line, this has to do with not expressing emotions/feelings, but also living under high pressure. Trigram Wind is also connected to the liver, the organ that deals with anger and frustrations. Are these things you can relate to your previous job?
The change of this trigram into trigram Mountain indicates that a boundary has been set: you have changed jobs.
The name of H61 is Inner Truth or Innermost Sincerity. In your previous job, to what extent were you able to express your truth, how you saw things? Did your manager listen to what you had to say?

If you recognise yourself in the above, then H41 seems to hint that it is time to perhaps express your frustrations in one way or the other so that it gets out of your system.In other words it can decrease.
So it could be that you are not sleeping well because there is still something going on internally regarding your previous job that needs to be expressed first.

If you are willing to tell, what time do you wake up? Is it always around the same time? You also write that you wake up from generalised pain, but is there a body part that bothers you the most or is most painful?

As always, take what resonates and leave the rest ;)

HansKr

Thankyou very much for your reply, it was very insightful and helpful.
Yes my previous role did take a high toll on all aspects of my being emotional, mental and physical.
Your comments on wind and wood are enlightening and hit the nail on the head, I am also a Wood Snake :) .
I was not heard when I did express myself to my superior as by my actions I had become the fixer in the organisation. Getting it out of my system is the issue as my role and therefore my behaviours required control at all times i.e. suppression of my emotions. I also feel some residual regret as I was responsible for all other members of the organisation and the person they approached with their issues and problems both within the organisation and their personal lives. To this extent, on reflection I "feel" some responsibility for "abandoning" them though I "understand" that they are ultimately capable of charting their own path without me.
How we live sets deep rooted patterns in our behaviours and it is assessing the degree to which those behaviours support us and changing those that do not that constitutes the great work of our lives.
The time I wake up depends on the time I go to sleep. As this has been going on for some time fatigue is causing me to retire earlier and earlier. Basically I sleep for about 2 hours regardless and then wake and and get up for 3 - 4 hours before being able to sleep again.
I had not reflected on the location of the pain before you raised it. It started in my hands and elbows, which are no longer an issue and has now moved to neck, shoulders and lower legs. Your perspective has been very helpful and aligns with Hex 41 "Trusting your insight and persevering in your chosen direction, you understand why you are doing this, rather than dwelling on what you are giving up.".
I feel that I am on the right path just impatient for this part of the process to be traversed.
Thank you for teaching me.
 

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Why can't I sleep?
61:5 <> 41

'Centring and Connecting to the Spirits' through 'The Offering'

The reason why you can not sleep and get generalised pain in the middle of the night is that you are in the process of being brought back to a better place of balance, from which to live your future life.

The situation that you find yourself in wraps around you in a way that allows an unrestrained release of previously trapped emotions. This signifies for you the ending of an old cycle and the beginning of a new one, as what is below the surface is placed on offer and so diminishes and as a consequence what is above begins to increase (41).

61 connects to a new place where you can abide more easily in peace as you now focus on aligning your inner and outer worlds. Allow trust in your inner truth to spread out into your world, especially as you let go of historical thoughts, acts and behaviours that were slowly draining your soul.

61.5 - rather than seeing this as a situation where you need to 'tuff it out', this line directs you more to being the best that you can be. Work collaboratively with your inner world to enhance the process of decrease that is underway. Find ways that you can proactively engage with what is happening within you at this time. Trust yourself to know what is right for you. The sooner you can correct the situation the sooner you will discover the true connection that is working its way towards you in life.

The nuclear of 61, the energetic drive behind and at the root of what is happening, is Hexagram 27 The Tiger's Mouth, where Yi advocates that you carefully chose the words or thoughts that you express now, as well as to practice moderation in all aspects of the ways you sustain yourself. Thus providing your self with the type of nourishment that you need most at this time to realign yourself more fully with your Inner Truth.

... or this consultation might have other interpretations that resonate more closely with you.

Good Luck
my_Key
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. Yours words resonate with where I am and also embody the response from Yi in Hex 41 "Trusting your insight and persevering in your chosen direction, you understand why you are doing this, rather than dwelling on what you are giving up." which in my words only is "tuff it out" :).
Foolishly sometimes being able to see the path ahead can also generate impatience to attain the desired result (me ha ha).
thank you for your teaching
 
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Getting it out of my system is the issue as my role and therefore my behaviours required control at all times i.e. suppression of my emotions.
It is interesting that you bring this up because if you look at the lower nuclear trigram Thunder (lines 2,3 and 4) then you see it is enveloped by trigram Heaven (lines 1, 5 and 6), the so called baoti.
Trigram Heaven is among other things about control, structure, as well as time and timing. Trigram Thunder is the yang aspect of the Wood element and is about expressing emotions and feelings directly. The combination of Thunder and Heaven as the nuclear trigram and baoti reflects what your are saying about controlling your behaviour and emotions, and because this is a nuclear trigram, I think it underlines once again that this is where the cause of the sleep problem lies.
My interpretation of the Hex is "tuff it out"
If by that you mean waiting for it to pass on its own, then I believe that is not enough. The Judgement of H41 talks about "...It is beneficial to have somewhere to go. What should be used? One may use two small bowls to make the offering" Personally, I would not see this as being passive and waiting.
It is up to you to decide where to go and what to offer (to let go off) ;)

As always, take what resonates and leave the rest!
 

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It is interesting that you bring this up because if you look at the lower nuclear trigram Thunder (lines 2,3 and 4) then you see it is enveloped by trigram Heaven (lines 1, 5 and 6), the so called baoti.
Trigram Heaven is among other things about control, structure, as well as time and timing. Trigram Thunder is the yang aspect of the Wood element and is about expressing emotions and feelings directly. The combination of Thunder and Heaven as the nuclear trigram and baoti reflects what your are saying about controlling your behaviour and emotions, and because this is a nuclear trigram, I think it underlines once again that this is where the cause of the sleep problem lies.

If by that you mean waiting for it to pass on its own, then I believe that is not enough. The Judgement of H41 talks about "...It is beneficial to have somewhere to go. What should be used? One may use two small bowls to make the offering" Personally, I would not see this as being passive and waiting.
It is up to you to decide where to go and what to offer (to let go off) ;)

As always, take what resonates and leave the rest!
Thankyou again
I am not sure of the meaning of "baoti " but I do resonate with your observations around it. Basically I am moving emotionally from being atrophied to feeling, and being able to express feelings again. Knowing, feeling and expressing or manifesting do not always occur simultaneously sometimes we must also await the harvest. So whilst I agree with your analysis I must await the results of the knowing, in this case endure the sleeplessness until the disparate aspects of my being have achieved balance again.

... and Yes I agree with your assessment about remaining passive but I was referring more towards my impatience to complete the transformation into the new me rather than remaining passive. Sometimes progress is gradual and the steps we take manifest is small, gentle and sustainable "One may use two small bowls to make the offering" rather than "Shock is something that stirs, rouses and shakes you up like an earthquake, or a violent thunderstorm." as in Hex 51.
 
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and Yes I agree with your assessment about remaining passive but I was referring more towards my impatience to complete the transformation into the new me rather than remaining passive
I understand, I thought you meant to wait until the sleep problem resolved itself.
 

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