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Mylife

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I m currently applying for Accounting Director role and I have my first interview on Tue.

I asked the oracle 2 questions:

1. what do you see about this interview will I be successful? - the answer was 50 unchanged

“Establishing the new
Supreme good fortune
Prosperous and smooth”

I understand that the oracle is saying that is time to establish the new and abolish the old. - that means it’s telling me I will have a successful interview?

It also says this:
“Respect the old and virtuous persons and rely on them to establish the new order.”

It’s giving me an advice to work close with an old and virtuous person who will help me to be successful at this job?

2. Will they offer me the role as Director?
51.6-21
I have the impression that there will be a problem and the job will not be offered to me.

I was not sure what it told me so I asked again: do I get the role as a director? And I for 18.1 -26 which seems to tell me that there is something which needs remedy and in the end it will be great accumulation.

if I combine 51.6 - 21 and 18.1-26
Seems that there is a shock (51.6) which requires calm attitude and stillness. A situation which requires an eradication (21) or remedy (18) and then in the end there will be fortune (26)?


How do you see the 3 answers given to me?Do you have a different way of interpreting ?

thank you all
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Hi Mylife,

You've posed really hard questions for the I Ching to answer. "Will they offer me x" is trying to look into the future, and into other people's future actions.
What follows is my opinion, riffing on or inspired by Jean-Philippe Schlumberger's interpretation of 51.6 in his book on the I Ching:



51.6 is somewhat floating above the situation. It might feel entitled to its lofty position, which can cause resentment from those below, toiling away as they are in the abyss of the nuclear trigram.

Office politics are a tough and arcane game, and promotions can seem a bit random to others who don’t get picked.

The best promotions are those where the person “chosen” by those above is the one about whom former peers all agree makes sense on a gut level (even though some might be legitimately disappointed they weren’t picked), rather than a promotion were people think “WTF? They got promoted to that role?”

The posing of that kind of question, “Will they give me what I want” implies to me a certain assumption on your part that you’ve earned it and therefore fate should rightly cough it up for you.

As several of my bosses used to say, choose yourself; work now not down at the level you’re at, but up to the level you aspire to; every position is ultimately what you make of it.

It’s not easy, especially in companies which are stingy with their promotions and possibilities for advancement—which, by the nature of capitalism, tends to be the norm for most people.

Does this resonate with you? So 51.6, with 21 as a backdrop or overtone, could mean, “you are floating above the situation a bit here, could you bite through and work on yourself to see yourself and your possibilities for advancement in a new light?”

What would it feel like if you saw yourself as fundamentally no better than, or actually were, a junior accountant just starting at the first rung way down below?

You might have more skills and experience and might well deserve the promotion, but how is it likely to work out for you if you expect fate to hand it to you on that basis?

If you were to voluntarily, before being forced by circumstances, to downshift your hunger and ambition and perhaps sense of entitlement, that could a bit like the top yin line of 51.6 “returning” at the bottom, producing 35, expanding consciousness and awareness.

In short, the I Ching’s answer here suggests to me: make an effort to bite through or break your mental framework, how you think about jobs high and low, and then go for it without mentally assuming that you should get it just because you deserve it: many others might feel the same way too.

Aim for the kind of promotion which would give a sense of relief or acceptance rather than resentment from those not chosen.

Of course, some will gossip regardless who gets promoted. And your expanding awareness could also mean you concluding that there’s no way for you to move up in this company, and you’d have to change jobs.

But ideally that would also be something you’d choose freely rather than have it be chosen for you—for example, by being layed off.
 

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@Serendiplomat My question is not about being promoted in the company where I m now. I applied for an upgraded role in another company.
my interview is next week for which I go 50 unchanged and it seems that goes well

when it comes to my second question, if I get the role, that’s about the new company role and not as a promotion in my current company.
 

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Hi everyone, I am getting back on this post because I think I am about to obtain an offer for this new role. I have the final stage of this position and every people I met for Interview from inside the company likes and wants me. More likely I will get an offer soon.

It will be a big change for me because it means leaving the current company with whom I am for more than 3 years.
I feel strange and exiting at the same time.

So before taking any decision I ask for support from Yi.

I asked 2 questions
1. Should I take this new role and leave my current company? - 42.3 - 37

I understand that the situation seems to be favourable to cross great rivers.
However the line 3, shows a situation unfavourable without fault.

And 37 household.

2. Do you see success for me at this new company in this new role? - 35.2.3.4-18

It seems that I should proceed forward but there is something off which requires a remedy.

I can’t understand what answers I get and Yi is trying to tell me. But I think something isn’t right.

Anyone can help me with a better understanding on this 2 answers?

Thanks x
 

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Anyone has any idea on the advice I received?

1. Should I take this new role and leave my current company? - 42.3 - 37

I understand that the situation seems to be favourable to cross great rivers.
However the line 3, shows a situation unfavourable without fault.

And 37 household.

2. Do you see success for me at this new company in this new role? - 35.2.3.4-18

It seems that I should proceed forward but there is something off which requires a remedy.
 

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I think that both questions you asked answer the basic reasons that lead you to consider leaving your current company:

42.3>37:
consider the basic reasons why you want to leave your current company and why you don't feel good about the company's structure.
How can a balanced reflection on these reasons make room for the possibility of viewing your current company in a more beneficial light?

..."crossing great rivers" can be the decision to face with determination a "dangerous situation in the relationship with your current company" in the sense of overcoming it and making room for something better.... and not necessarily the suggestion that the next company is the path to take in this "crossing great rivers".

- I assume that, with a stable job of three years, you know your current company much better and, by comparison, practically nothing concrete in relation to another company....so it is much "easier" to see if there is a more beneficial way of relating to this company than simply going out and waiting for the next company to "give you what you are not finding in this one".

35.2.3.4>18:
can you imagine Yi seeing the future and responding to something that you still don't know if it will be part of your future, like the situation of working successfully in this new company?
I see more 35.2.3.4>18 as a response to your state of anxiety regarding this possible, but not certain, future.

breakmov
 

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crossing great rivers" can be the decision to face with determination a "dangerous situation in the relationship with your current company" in the sense of overcoming it and making room for something better.... and not necessarily the suggestion that the next company is the path to take in this "crossing great rivers".
Yes can be seen that way too. Because I feel is not an easy decision for me :)

The current company will give me what I aim for (better salary and progress) in minimum 2-4 years.

But I have to say that the new role will be challenging and rewarding. And sorry to leave where I am now because I like my comfort zone. As you know changes means going out of comfort zone.

But I am tempted to go for it. Hence I asked if I should I go (wanting the Yi advice ) and if I will be successful.
 

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