Will I remain in good health throughout 2004?

[shaoqi]

Thanks for your response. So how did u come to the conculsion about my health when the question I asked originally had nothing to do with my health?

Well I asked about my health like you said and now im worried.

I asked will I remain in good health throughout 2004?

My primary Hex is 39"Hardship", Moving lines are 3 & 5. And my relating Hex is 2"Responding"

Im worried now because the Idograph for Hex 39 is a lame person having difficulty walking and also I been thinking about losing both my legs and my girlfriend even brung up that she'd still luv me if i was cippled without legs. Could this all be quisidence? I dunno but now I feel im going to lose my legs and it got me worried.

In both my hex it also sais Unfavorable to go North East.

Both moving lines indicate hardship.

So im worried about this, my primary hex is very bad but my relating hex seems like good, what does everyone think about this, I can use some help. Thx....shaolin


>From: "SunPuErh Kennedy"
>To: shaoqi360@msn.com
>Subject: Your I Ching reading: 23 and 25
>Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:11:08 -0500
>
>Dear Shaoqi: I wanted to ask you to please ask about your health.
>I have gone over your Hexagrams 25 and 23. A minor matter, but
>better to make sure that all is well in that department. I also
>sent this reading to a very experienced diviner and Taoist, who
>agrees with me.
>
>Love,
>
>Sun

 

[shaoqi]

Im sorry I had it backwards, Hex 2 is my primary changing into Hex 39. Changing lines are 3 an 5.

Now im really scared because it makes sense now because right now im in good health an its showin my future health very bad.

My moving lines are both positive though. I dont know what to make of this???

1...shaolin

 

[joang]

Shaolin, perhaps you should read another translation. I see nothing in the Wilhelm/Baynes version that would justify your fears. Hex 2 says, "The Receptive brings about sublime success"... and the lines you got are good. The name of Hex 39 in W/B is Obstruction, and it says in the text:
"The hexagram pictures a dangerous abyss lying before us and a steep, inaccessible mountain rising behind us. We are surrounded by obstacles; at the same time, since the mountain has the attribute of keeping still, there is implicit a hint as to how we can extricate ourselves. The hexagram represents obstructions that appear in the course of time but that can and should be overcome. Therefore all the instruction given is directed to overcoming them."

CAN and should be overcome... you see? That's not so bad, is it?

Namaste,
Joan

 

[shaoqi]

Ok thank you for feedback, right now im in excellent health, i practice kung fu an taiji, qi gong an meditate on the regular. I just got worried because someone emailed me saying they see something bad about my health an one of my hexagrams is the ideograph of a lame person having difficulty walking so I got scared.


So my relating hex is difficulty that can be overcome, that dont sound bad, i guess i was concentrating on "danger in front. Theres no way out."

well thx again for your help...shaolin

 

[soshin]

Dear Shaoqi,

There is always a way out. There is not a single line in the Yijing which gives you a fate impossible to overcome or impossible to avoid.

Yijing is not about fate, it is about the present moment and its possibilities, which are likely to result in a future shown in the second (or relating) hexagram. This works in most cases, sometimes the relating hexagrams explains the given present situation more in-depth. It depends.

Yours,

Soshin

 

[hilary]

Dear Shaoqi,

You know, there actually are lines in the I Ching that talk about amputation! But of course, these are not in your reading. Hexagram 39 is literally just 'limping' - difficulties, not disasters.

The two strongest ways of overcoming the difficulties of hexagram 39 are a) not to make things difficult for yourself and b) to get help from friends, not try to do everything yourself. From this reading, I get the idea it is important to stay 'grounded' in reality and not create difficulties for yourself by thinking and worrying about them.

I have one 'technical' question for you: what method are you using to consult? If you share that with us, then we can help you make sure you're getting your lines changing the right way

. In most methods, it would depend on how you counted (the coins or whatever you use), not on how it was written down.

I'd especially like to know which 'way round' your first answer was, the one with hexagrams 25 and 23. If hexagram 23 came first, then it said that the first thing the I Ching would do for you was to 'strip away' your sense of confidence and purpose, then I would suggest that this is not the right time for your to start using it.

And about I Ching divination in general... there are different opinions on this, of course... But here is mine:

The I Ching is not a kind of 'code book' where certain hexagrams can be 'decoded' to mean 'bad health' or 'wealth' or 'marriage' no matter what your question was. It has real conversations with people. And real conversations start when someone listens to what you ask, and responds.

To take a ridiculous example from ordinary life:
Imagine you and I were standing out in the street near my house, and you asked me,
"How old are you?"
And I replied "100"
You would be quite surprised... (I don't look 100

).

But fortunately, you could ask a friend of mine, who would explain that I was really answering the question 'What number bus do we need to travel to Oxford?'

Well, it would be quite helpful of me to tell you about the bus... maybe you'd need to know that much more than you needed to know how old I was. But of course, if I carried on like that all the time, you'd think I was totally mad... you certainly couldn't have sensible conversations with me.

And in the same way, the I Ching usually answers your questions quite straightforwardly.

Very occasionally, there are exceptions, perhaps when you ask about one thing but are really obsessing about something else. Once in a blue moon, there can be something the I Ching wants to tell you about that you had no idea of at all. But the relationship you can have with the I Ching is based on the fact that it answers your questions.

 

[shaoqi]

Hilary an Soshin thx again.

Hilary yes my first question asked is actually Hex 23 --> 25. So you suggest stop learning I Ching for a while? I understand my primary Hex is Falling away which is unfortunate and my moving lines say 1.misfortune, 2.Situation worses, 3.Aftern darkness comes light.

An then my relatin hex is positive "without falsehood" so I deciphered my reading as In the beginning I will go through difficulty(which I am right now having things backwards) but after the darkness comes light and the IChing will play a prosperous an smooth role in my life.

Makes sense to me, I dont see why I should put IChing off to the side because as long as I continue to practice it I can only get better i.e. learning from ones mistakes.

Also Hex 23, cant that striping away of appearences also mean finding ones true-self, striping away the ego an so on. I mean it dont have to be a negative thing right?

Oh yeah im using The Complete I Ching text by Alfred Huang, I throw the 3 coins and:

2 X Head = staight line(young yang)

2 X Tail = broken line(young yin)

3 Tails = sold line with circle(old yang)

3 Head = broken line with X (old yin)

How I wound up mixing eveything up was I was counting the 3 Tails as a yin line turning into a yang line when its truely a yang line ---> a yin, an same with the 3 Heads. So I precived it all backwards but now it's correct thx to all of you an I would like to THANK eveyone for the help an guidance...

Thanx...shaolin

 

[hilary]

- I made the exact same mistake with three coins when I started!

Obviously it is up to you what you do with the I Ching. It could be that I was over-reacting. You're right that the reading 23->25 does improve as you move through it - having hexagram 25 as an aspiration, in the second hexagram, is good. And you're right that the 'stripping away' isn't necessarily negative, because you can be 'stripped' of things that were getting in your way. But it is usually a very painful experience, often frightening.

Think back to the level of anxiety you felt when you thought the I Ching was talking about losing your legs... that is reflected in the first moving line of 23...

I will pass the baton here to someone else to help with 23,4 and 23,5, as I have a customer's reading to finish! (*Disappearing in cloud of dust...*)