Will Trump go to prison? 37.1.4.5>56

[GreenBird]

Can't sleep - for other reasons, and asked this question. Doesn't look like it, more likely he'll be just moving on.

During times of adversity, we turn back to family." 1. someone defending himself from a hostile world, in 4. a rich family that sticks together, working towards a common goal that benefits everyone (in the family, of course) and 5. a benevolent father/patriarch ting a good example and then good fortune entails.

Kind of never thought that he would actually have to do time, but this reading and esp. Line 5 is so ...positive ...

 

[my_key]

Hi GreenBird

37 carries a sense of being with the people you truly belong with and for some carries a meaning of being on the inside.
56 sets a context of wandering from one temporary abode to the next. Living apart from your known world in places other than your home.

... of course, the lawyers will be doing their best to interpret this reading in other ways.

Take care

 

[GreenBird]

Key, I had these thoughts too, esp. the "inside" element. But it's difficult for me to see jail as 37 "People in Harmony"...

 

[Trojina]

13 is 'People in harmony' not 37.

I think it's a very tongue in cheek answer from Yi, I mean comedic.

Line 1 of course shows a home is only a home with barriers and the mention of the barriers would be I'd think him being ensconced, held, detained. The other lines are funny of course because it really doesn't look too bad for him if he is. In line 4 he is the 'treasure of the home'....he's going to have people around him, maybe wardens and so on who treat him well as sympathisers. Line 5 shows him pretty much in control even behind bars.

I think 56 is showing this as a temporary home...that is actually how it reads as a sentence (no pun intended) a home (37) which is temporary (56).

I can't predict of course only guess but my sense of the reading is he does go to prison but not for long and he doesn't really have a bad time in there. Indeed he may even find it advantageous.

 

[Hans_K]

Hi Greenbird,
What makes this question and its answer so interesting is that it contains a few challenges:

1. The question implies that the future is fixed and that the Yi looks into the future, as it were, for the person asking the question.
   Personally, I do not believe that the future is fixed but is always determined by the choices made now. Of course, certain directions towards a version of the future are more likely than others, but within a certain range, multiple options of the future are still possible. So this raises the question of whether the Yi really answers your question.
2. The second challenge lies in who the answer relates to, is the answer really about Trump or does it relate to yourself? You are the one asking the question for whatever reason, maybe you hope Trump goes to jail or maybe not. It may well be that the Yi's answer refers to that, to the underlying motivation for asking this question.
3. The question you ask requires a Yes or No answer. Not everyone on this forum is happy with this kind of yes-no question and some will even say you cannot ask this kind of question. Personally, I think it is no problem at all to ask this kind of question, it might just take a bit more effort to translate the answer you received into a Yes or No.

Having said that, let's assume for a moment that this answer refers to Mr Trump and the future is predictable.

H37 is the hexagram of The Clan/The Family. It is trigram Wind/Wood over Fire.
Where Heaven is the trigram of the laws and rules themselves, trigram Fire is about the implementation and application of those laws and rules. Fire is thus, amongst other things, the trigram of law, justice, of the distinction between good and evil. Fire is also the truth, clarity, tansparency
Wind is the trigram of spreading and communication.
In H37, laws and rules, clarity, truth (Fire) are spread and communicated (Wind).
(A group of people can only live together harmoniously when everyone knows what they have to abide by and knows their place/function within the group and communicate with each other).

H37.1.4.5 shows a situation where both the truth (Fire) and the spreading/communicating (Wind) of that truth are out of balance.
The lower trigram Fire changes to Mountain due to the moving line at the 1st position.
This is about seeing one's own truth and/or principles as the only right one, not being open to the truth of others.
The moving yang line on the 1st position reinforces this idea because it also wants to implement the ideas and plans immediately although it cannot see the long-term consequences. Fire with a moving line in the 1st position has the attitude of "My will is law", we are going to do it my way or not at all. (In the context of this question: do we know anyone who behaves like this? ).
Mountain is the trigram of integrity, acting with sincerity and trustworthiness. Mountain gives as advice setting boundaries, stopping processes, keeping quiet, acting with integrity

The upper trigram Wind in H37 turns into Fire because of the moving lines in the 4th and 5th positions.
Wind with 2 moving lines cannot make a reality of its plans, it keeps postponing and delaying, communication has been corrupted.
Fire advises making things clear, ordering things, applying rules and laws.

Seen from the trigrams, H56 shows a clear picture in this situation Fire over Mountain. Justice, the Law, Truth with a stable, unchanging foundation.
So H56 brings order to H37 the Clan.
H56 is about adapting when travelling. So H37 <> H56 could also be read as the Clan (Trump and supporters) having to adjust to a new situation.

What is remarkable in the answer is that trigram Fire plays an important role. It is the lower trigram in H37, the upper in H56 and the moving lines together also form trigram Fire again. The whole idea of Laws and their application comes up again and again.

Personally, my answer would lean slightly towards Yes, but...
The only thing that is "certain" for me in this answer is that one will do everything possible to ensure justice prevails.

This would be my interpretation. As always, take what resonates and leave the rest

 

[Liselle]

From WikiWing:
'With barriers, there is a home.
Regrets vanish.'

'Enriching the dwelling-place.
Great good fortune.'

'The king enters his own home.
Do not worry. Good fortune.
Or more literally:
'The king takes it on: there is a home.
Do not be concerned! Good fortune.'

With everyone's caveats, very much including Trojina's tongue in cheek, I "propose" ( ) he will not because these things take a long time and by then he will either be
(a) dead, or
(b) re-elected president

Barriers, more advantageous home, doesn't have to care...

 

[Hans_K]

'With barriers, there is a home.
Regrets vanish.'

With barriers there is a jail, also a kind of home for those who belong there

 

[Liselle]

Of course - I meant it pretty silly. Jails are barriers, the Pearly Gates are certainly barriers to prosecution , and being re-elected would be a barrier of a sort, too, the process would be different at least.

 

[my_key]

Key, I had these thoughts too, esp. the "inside" element. But it's difficult for me to see jail as 37 "People in Harmony"...

37 Household / The Family / Dwelling People /People in the Home /Family Members /Family of Man - whatever the name people call this hexagram there is a strong sense of belonging to a like-minded community.

56 Travelling While offering only the slightest chance of prosperity and smoothness, the hexagram does carry a theme of the outcome of travelling being seen as truly great. So perhaps some time inside, can be seen as something that will be beneficial and character building for Donald. (I almost typed changing instead of building but that may be a bridge too far)

 

[rosada]

37 - 56 : Home - Leaving.
So he’ll be leaving home - off to prison!

But what is “home”? Could the 37. “like-minded community” refer to the all the fellow traitors in the jail house? But then does 56 mean after he gets convicted he’ll be quickly Traveling On, as in released?

Personally I’m betting on Liselle’s leaving the home planet Pearly Gates option.

 

[Trojina]

Any feedback on this one?

 

[steve]

No never but Dr Fauci might

 

[GreenBird]

Well, he didn't go - quite the opposite. I wonder if the like-minded community are his devotees and the home is the White House? Though the question was posed almost a year ago...

 

[ichinglover123]

From WikiWing:
'With barriers, there is a home.
Regrets vanish.'

'Enriching the dwelling-place.
Great good fortune.'

'The king enters his own home.
Do not worry. Good fortune.
Or more literally:
'The king takes it on: there is a home.
Do not be concerned! Good fortune.'

With everyone's caveats, very much including Trojina's tongue in cheek, I "propose" ( ) he will not because these things take a long time and by then he will either be
(a) dead, or
(b) re-elected president

Barriers, more advantageous home, doesn't have to care...

Well you were on the money. He’s re-elected!

 

[Liselle]

Yes, and meanwhile the Supreme Court has decided presidents have pretty strong immunity, and so on, so the lines seem right on the nose.