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Hallo to everyone in the community, and hallo Hilary. I've been a dormant member for some time, in fact, several years, and this is my first, no.. second post, since this morning. The reason for that, the yi says, is the well.
I would like to share with you my discovery of a shorter method of counting yarrow stalks.
My method is really the same as the conventional method, except that I've discovered that you only need to count one hand to know the result. This way the counting time to create a hexagram is cut by half.
But first I would like to tell you about something I noticed while working out the maths.
When a bunch of 49 is devided and one stick is removed from the right hand bunch, as is the convention, the counts will follow a regular pattern. While on the other hand, when a stick is removed from the left hand bunch instead, the counts will also follow a regular pattern, although the counts will differ from the right hand counts!
For instance, in the first devision you have 29 in the right hand and 20 in the left hand. Remove one from the right hand and the remainder from both bunches will be 8 viz. 28 and 20. Remove one from the left hand and the remainder will be 4 viz. 29 and 19. In some case you will get the same number from either. So, to avoid this discrepancy, a choice of one hand throughout the counting seremony is needed to form a regular pattern.
To take a stick from either hand randomly (which is the kind of choice that might be considered as cheating!) before counting will create more random results. If you were to remove a stick from the non-counting hand you will get one result, but when a stick is removed from the counting hand you get a result that equals or varies from the other. When the choice is doubled, the odds are doubled, and you will end up with a completely different hexagram than what you'd've got if you were to remove a stick from only one hand. Although such an exotic personal custom might add a kind of nonchalant glamour to your counting ceremony, it remains far from obvious weather the act of divination is really regulated by a strict mathematical system or through a strange intervention of the spiritual world, or both. It remains a fact, however, that the received method of counting all the stalk in bunches of four allows the thought to sink in and the object of enquiry throughly penetrated so as to allow the central theme to be eluminated by the divinatory text produced by your act. The thing is, when you use yarrow stalks you may end up counting it in various ways and always trust it. But if you're more mathematically inclined, you'd like to know weather there is purity in the form, even in the absence of the rule. In this case, the rule is, that a stick has to be removed from the left hand, or the right hand only and not to mix this step. This is an invitation for the mathematically minded to work out the actual odds involved in the production of the changes should a system of randomness be followed viz. First devision, left hand drops one; second devision, right hand drops one; third devision, right hand drops one etc.
For my counting ceremony I have decided to remove this element of choice that leads to an adherence to a rule completely, by dividing the bunch into three, the third being only one stick. The stick is dropped from the hands when the division is made. This way counting either bunch will produce the same result in all counts, since no stick has to be removed from either left-hand or right-hand bunch. Try it! This is how I divide my sticks in any case.
I count the hand with the fewest sticks to reduce counting time when I'm in a hurry. It saves time, and it works.
The system is: You divide the 49 sticks by simultaneously dropping one stick to the table. Count the lightest hand, and when the results are 1, 2, or 3, you add 3, 2, or 1, respectively, and to 4 you add 4, with the results 4, and 8. Put it aside with the dropped stalk to make 5 or 9. Repeat this two more times, where the result will be 1, 2, 3, 4, to which you add 2, 1, 4 and 3, respectively, with the results 3 and 7 respectively. Put it aside with the dropped stalk to make either 4 or 8.
The results will be:
9, 8, 8 ~ 2, 2, 2 = 6
9, 8, 4 ~ 2, 2, 3 = 7
9, 4, 4 ~ 2, 3, 3 = 8
5, 8, 8 ~ 3, 2, 2 = 7
5, 8, 4 ~ 3, 2, 3 = 8
5, 4, 4 ~ 3, 3, 3 = 9
The free, uncounted bunch will have:
(49 - 25) = 24 / 4 = 6
(49 - 21) = 28 / 4 = 7
(49 - 17) = 32 / 4 = 8
(49 - 13) = 36 / 4 = 9
This way you will produce the figures required to compose a hexagram in nearly half the time than the traditional counting method.
This method holds water, and even exposes a deeper layer in counting yarrow stalks for divination where a rule is necessary to narrow the margin of a regular outcome. An intrinsic flaw, or a virus, that lurks on the edge to influence the concentration when a strict rule isn't obeyed. Obedience to which comes naturally by constant repetition, but distracts from the natural flow that in fact is the current of the subconscious obeying only natural law. 德
Not only is there a muddled sophistication in the standard instructions devised by Royal command, to be used in such and such a manner, and which is proper. To the everyday man, counting sticks may never reach such heights as to determined the fate of subjects of the law, or the folk and country as a whole. No, indeed the application of the wisdom of the i ching can be very helpful in solving everyday problems very close to home.
You may test this method by secretly counting the other bunch too for a few sessions . You will find that you get the same results from counting only one bunch and adding the additional number of sticks as described above. You also don't have to apply my three way split method either to be able to half your counting time. It works the same for the conventional method, except you don't have to count both bunches, but instead only adding the predictable number of sticks from the bunch in your hand.
I would like to share with you my discovery of a shorter method of counting yarrow stalks.
My method is really the same as the conventional method, except that I've discovered that you only need to count one hand to know the result. This way the counting time to create a hexagram is cut by half.
But first I would like to tell you about something I noticed while working out the maths.
When a bunch of 49 is devided and one stick is removed from the right hand bunch, as is the convention, the counts will follow a regular pattern. While on the other hand, when a stick is removed from the left hand bunch instead, the counts will also follow a regular pattern, although the counts will differ from the right hand counts!
For instance, in the first devision you have 29 in the right hand and 20 in the left hand. Remove one from the right hand and the remainder from both bunches will be 8 viz. 28 and 20. Remove one from the left hand and the remainder will be 4 viz. 29 and 19. In some case you will get the same number from either. So, to avoid this discrepancy, a choice of one hand throughout the counting seremony is needed to form a regular pattern.
To take a stick from either hand randomly (which is the kind of choice that might be considered as cheating!) before counting will create more random results. If you were to remove a stick from the non-counting hand you will get one result, but when a stick is removed from the counting hand you get a result that equals or varies from the other. When the choice is doubled, the odds are doubled, and you will end up with a completely different hexagram than what you'd've got if you were to remove a stick from only one hand. Although such an exotic personal custom might add a kind of nonchalant glamour to your counting ceremony, it remains far from obvious weather the act of divination is really regulated by a strict mathematical system or through a strange intervention of the spiritual world, or both. It remains a fact, however, that the received method of counting all the stalk in bunches of four allows the thought to sink in and the object of enquiry throughly penetrated so as to allow the central theme to be eluminated by the divinatory text produced by your act. The thing is, when you use yarrow stalks you may end up counting it in various ways and always trust it. But if you're more mathematically inclined, you'd like to know weather there is purity in the form, even in the absence of the rule. In this case, the rule is, that a stick has to be removed from the left hand, or the right hand only and not to mix this step. This is an invitation for the mathematically minded to work out the actual odds involved in the production of the changes should a system of randomness be followed viz. First devision, left hand drops one; second devision, right hand drops one; third devision, right hand drops one etc.
For my counting ceremony I have decided to remove this element of choice that leads to an adherence to a rule completely, by dividing the bunch into three, the third being only one stick. The stick is dropped from the hands when the division is made. This way counting either bunch will produce the same result in all counts, since no stick has to be removed from either left-hand or right-hand bunch. Try it! This is how I divide my sticks in any case.
I count the hand with the fewest sticks to reduce counting time when I'm in a hurry. It saves time, and it works.
The system is: You divide the 49 sticks by simultaneously dropping one stick to the table. Count the lightest hand, and when the results are 1, 2, or 3, you add 3, 2, or 1, respectively, and to 4 you add 4, with the results 4, and 8. Put it aside with the dropped stalk to make 5 or 9. Repeat this two more times, where the result will be 1, 2, 3, 4, to which you add 2, 1, 4 and 3, respectively, with the results 3 and 7 respectively. Put it aside with the dropped stalk to make either 4 or 8.
The results will be:
9, 8, 8 ~ 2, 2, 2 = 6
9, 8, 4 ~ 2, 2, 3 = 7
9, 4, 4 ~ 2, 3, 3 = 8
5, 8, 8 ~ 3, 2, 2 = 7
5, 8, 4 ~ 3, 2, 3 = 8
5, 4, 4 ~ 3, 3, 3 = 9
The free, uncounted bunch will have:
(49 - 25) = 24 / 4 = 6
(49 - 21) = 28 / 4 = 7
(49 - 17) = 32 / 4 = 8
(49 - 13) = 36 / 4 = 9
This way you will produce the figures required to compose a hexagram in nearly half the time than the traditional counting method.
This method holds water, and even exposes a deeper layer in counting yarrow stalks for divination where a rule is necessary to narrow the margin of a regular outcome. An intrinsic flaw, or a virus, that lurks on the edge to influence the concentration when a strict rule isn't obeyed. Obedience to which comes naturally by constant repetition, but distracts from the natural flow that in fact is the current of the subconscious obeying only natural law. 德
Not only is there a muddled sophistication in the standard instructions devised by Royal command, to be used in such and such a manner, and which is proper. To the everyday man, counting sticks may never reach such heights as to determined the fate of subjects of the law, or the folk and country as a whole. No, indeed the application of the wisdom of the i ching can be very helpful in solving everyday problems very close to home.
You may test this method by secretly counting the other bunch too for a few sessions . You will find that you get the same results from counting only one bunch and adding the additional number of sticks as described above. You also don't have to apply my three way split method either to be able to half your counting time. It works the same for the conventional method, except you don't have to count both bunches, but instead only adding the predictable number of sticks from the bunch in your hand.