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lienshan

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Bruce_g has in thread "Changes, sunbeams and pots" shown how he translates the 64 hexagrams into images.
I have too translated them but into 64 danish proverbs, which helps me to catch the spirit of each hexagram:

01 - Strike while the iron is hot
02 ¤ She is mother that brings the food
03 - All things are difficult before they are easy
04 - One fool can ask more questions than seven wise men can answer
05 - Make hay while the sun shines
07 - Experience is the best teacher
08 - Birds of a feather flock together
09 - Good things come in small packages
10 - Look before you leap
11 - Good wine needs no bush
12 - Adversity makes a man wise, not rich
13 ¤ To a flock that agree, the wolf isn't dangerous
14 - All’s well that ends well
15 - Do not triumph before the victory.
16 - It is better to travel hopefully than to arrive
17 - After a storm comes a calm
18 ¤ The wise learn from the faults of others
19 - A new broom sweeps clean
20 ¤ The eye is the mirror of the soul
21 - A kite rises against the wind
22 - A thing of beauty is a joy for ever
23 - Habit is second nature
24 ¤ To and from are the same distance
25 - An ounce of discretion is worth a pound of wit
26 ¤ A deep root doesn't fear the wind
27 - Money doesn't grow on trees
28 - Variety is the spice of life
29 - It is better to begin in the evening than not at all
30 ¤ The sun is shining when talking about it
31 ¤ Smile to the world and it smiles to You
32 ¤ Don't look for the easy way, when the road is straight
33 ¤ You have to creep before You can walk
34 - A good conscience is a soft pillow
35 - Fortune favours the brave
36 ¤ All cats are grey in the darkness
37 - There's no place like home
38 - A house divided against itself cannot stand
39 ¤ Wounded feelings are cured by tears
40 ¤ Problems are made for solving
41 ¤ Do something to get something
42 ¤ Selfdone is well done
43 ¤ Respect is bigger at distance
44 ¤ A smile opens many doors
45 - Many hands make light work
46 ¤ Search wisedom step by step
47 ¤ Patience is a virtue
48 - The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence
49 ¤ Everything has two sides
50 - Eat to live, but do not live to eat
51 - Empty vessels make the most noise
52 ¤ Time cures all wounds
53 - Great haste makes great waste
54 - A good beginning is half the battle
55 ¤ It's better to share half than loose all
56 - It takes two to make a quarrel
57 ¤ A tiny pit is able to turn over the waggon
58 - A joy that's shared is a joy made double.
59 - Don't make a mountain out of a molehill
60 ¤ If silent You agree
61 - Home is where the heart is
62 - Necessity is the mother of invention
63 ¤ It stands as long as it makes noise
64 ¤ The calm before the storm

¤ = I don't know the english proverb but have tried to translate the danish proverb :)
 
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Cool. :)

Somewhere written on the oracle bones of this forum I did all 64 using advertising slogans and colloquialisms. I did another one of song titles.

I'm convinced there's absolutely nothing at all unique or exclusive to the Yijing that is not common to every man or woman. I think we can get so wrapped up in the Yi that we imagine we are keepers of some esoteric knowledge. We may investigate the nature of changes more closely than most, but we hold no real secrets.
 

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What fun!
Do you have a proverb for hexagram 6?
 
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Lienshan:

I think what you have done is truly great. If you can do the same thing with the moving lines, I would encourage you to put it into manuscript form, and try to get it published. My belief is that the I Ching would be more popular if it were easier to use, and I think you have definitely taken a postive and useful step in that direction by introducing clarity of understanding into the process. Super.

Jim
 

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06 ¤ Wright must be wright

Thanks for your friendly answers. I'm happy to inspire some of you and think, that each of us has our own opinion of wich proverbs are connected with wich hexagrams. I'm too sure, that esspecially newcomers to Yi Jing are best off by proverbs, because the texts are very difficult even to sinologic experts.

But there is more in it. My personal opinion is, that many of the texts originated from proverbs used by ordinary neolitic people. E.g. hexagram no. 4 as an example. Others like esspecially hexagram no. 40 is hard to recognize as a proverb, because it include two answers.

Jacques :)
 

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I like this a lot! I agree totally with you, that the Yi might have many proverbs in it. Or what Bruce did, slogans and colloquialisms, which are essentially also a kind of proverbs. Or sources of same.

I think 61.1 is a clear example of a proverb: When there is a snake, there are no swallows.

LiSe
 

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I don't think that the lines in general are proverbs. They are structured to explain the hexagrams.

But if the Yarrowstalk oracle was used by wu (shamans) out in the country pre-Chang, the oracle might have a long oral history and that's why I focus on the proverb layer of the 64 hexagram texts, because proverbs to ordinary people are easy to remember and understand.

My intention with this thread was to define, which hexagrams that are proverb related and which are not? That's hard to say only from danish proverbs, so I hope that some of you post which hexagrams you define as proverb related. I think that even experts will find this interesting, because it's a new way to look at and analyze which hexagrams are from "the gate of dawn" and which hexagrams are from the Chang/Zhou diviners?

Jacques
 
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This goes back to Dobro's thread and question.
http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?t=4288

What comes as a personal revelation to one is only of minor significance or consequence to another, at a given time. The magic is in the moment, and it's rare to be able to share such a moment with someone else. Determinism only frustrates the matter further: creating opposition.

Do what you do, and then leave it, as though it never was.
 

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