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Dear all,

First of all, Happy Easter to all of you! After a long, long winter spring finally came to Europe. Birds are singing, the first flowers are coming out. I wish you all your part of this abundant, growing energy.

Second, I need your help with a bunch of tricky (or too simple to understand) answers a very good friend of mine got recently from the Yijing. I have to go into detail here, so I hope I do not ask for too much.

This friend of mine, her name is Sylvia, is a psychic and astrologer living and working in an industrial town about 100 miles west of the town I live in. I know her for 18 years now, and since then there was rarely a month when I did not take the train to her for her advice and her help. She was always remarkably helpful and we developed a very strong emphatic connection, as I did with her family, too, from which I now am nearly a part.

She has this freelance-astrologer and psychic occupation for about 20 years now, and gradually she developed her own personal style and also her character and maturity, which is wide above average. In the last years slowly the amount of her clients declined, as she never made any concessions to the zeitgeist and continued to give her advices and her energy to people in need (even without money) and refused to appear in radio or TV shows as many others did. She simply continued to have this small business of hers, which only lives from word of mouth-recommendations as she rarely put advertisements into newspapers.

But now this small business slowly declined more and more until now. There is a mere trickle of clients now (according to the bad financial situation of the people in general). So she feels (in her own words) like a well from whom only few people ladle anymore. As now her husband started to work as a masseur, the income of the household in summary stayed about the same as in the years before, and money is not something she is really worried about as she has a certain sense of security she will not starve to death for sure. :)

With the question in mind if she is doing the right job, she asked the Yijing with my help. She never had tried to learn much about the Yijing because I was always the specialist. The outcome of this first question was 48, The Well. No lines changing. Of course, we were very happy with that answer, and I told her that this is showing her job as a nipple of the earth-mother. ;-) But then she continued to ask from what sources should she live from, because there are so few clients anymore. She got 27, Nourishment (Surprise!), with the third line changing to 22, Adorning. Oh well! We were utterly shocked, and immediatly she asked where she deviated from the WAY. The outcome was 5, Waiting with the second line changing to 63. All this was a lot of food for thought, and the next day she asked again for the last time: "What am I doing wrong" and got 11, Peace. I am kind of bewildered, because I cannot really connect to this answers, which seem so positive (11, 5/63 and to a certain grade also 27/22) but then totally negative (Third line of 27!!!).

Please can somebody with better understanding of the Yi share his or her experience? It would be deeply appreciated. Please forgive my bad english, I hope I could make myself understood.

Namaste,

Soshin
 
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Hi Soshin,

From her deep well comes nourishment. But to attract clients to her well she needs packaging (22), much as Hilary has not only content but an attractive website medium, a presentation of content. 11.5 would say to me, do not expect her clients to connect directly with the depth of her well, but rather she is to connect or network first on a human level with them.
 
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Hi Soshin
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This is difficult!

I am working on it, but here are some initial thoughts?

There is a theme of ?nourishing? running through the readings.

The Well ? Nourishing / source for others.

Attending (5) In English like in French the word has two meanings ? To Wait and to pay attention to something. I believe the hexagram carries both of these meanings. After the time of the Young development of Hx4 comes 5 and the injunction to attend to what is needed. And waiting for the time when what is needed comes to ?nourish?.

I am not sure that 27.3 is so negative ? Perhaps a warning about, ?If rejecting the needed nourishment then 10 years (long time) in the wilderness. ?

63 Would seem to indicate that the necessary processes are already underway.

There are some very powerful dynamics here I am going to cogitate for a while? But was moved by your friends plight and wanted to put something out quickly?

Warmly

--Kevin
 

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the fact that you brought up first all the stuff about going all out up first---

in the order of your conversation you brought up the 'negative' version of a psychic who sold out
(was on tv, was in it for the money)before you said her more 'purer'but less profitable path.

open your mind----no good or bad

successful but "less pure" version you first described her not being
 
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Greetings Mega-Yoda

Interesting point, perhaps resting on the reading of the words and not the meaning?

Penetrate the truth we must, A poor vessel are written words here think I.

Enlighten us perhaps Soshin will.

Not obvious I think this is.

More hidden in the readings there is.
 

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Yes, Megabobby, she never played the gipsy violin of commercialism. But although, she never had to worry about her incomes until recently.

Thank you, Candid. You are right to the point. There is no self-marketing here, she wants to be found. This seems to be the wrong way. I hope she can digest that.

Hello again, Kevin! Happy to hear from you. I'm definately looking forward to your explorations. An yes, this one IS difficult. But you helped a lot with what you already said (espacially in connection to 27,3). Thank you very much.

Namaste

Soshin
 

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Hi Soshin, and hello to your friend
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I'm not sure whether my response to this is radically biased by my own opinion, or whether it just all makes sense. Anyway... before I even got to the readings, I had to wonder if your friend really wants paying customers - if she really feels comfortable with the idea that what she has to offer is worth real money, just like a 'proper job'. Is she getting tired after 20 years of this? Is that why she doesn't tell potential new clients she's available to help them? After 20 years' solid service, who would blame her if she wanted a break?

But to get onto the readings...

48 is a beautiful description of what she does, I agree, and a great validation and reassurance to have in the first reading. It rules out the idea that there might be some 'message from the universe' that she is not meant to be doing this any more. However, 48 unchanging especially begs the question: will someone find a well-rope that's long enough and a sound pitcher? The water is always there, but how accessible is it?

27 changing to 22... we seem to have an implicit agreement here that this can't be literally a response about what she should live from! Yi has definitely moved the conversation on to what is going wrong. The question of what will nourish her, her supportive framework or environment, has somehow got focussed on Beauty.

Normally I would agree with Candid all the way: no point having a potentially life-changing service if it has no 'face' people can relate to and hence no customers. But with this moving line, it's hard to see 22 as anything other than a wrong direction. A tentative suggestion: that if she is more preoccupied with staying 'pure' of contamination by the commercial culture, than with reaching out to people who need her and can nourish her, that might count as 'rejecting nourishment.' Obviously I don't know whether this would apply - or whether I am just projecting my own 'issues' willy-nilly.

Another thought: this answer could just be Yi's immediate, conversational response to the direction her questioning was taking. 'What should I live on since there are so few clients?' - she has turned away from the whole question of why there are few clients or whether there could be more.

Where is she deviating from the Way? Waiting (for clients to find her, for the weather to change so she can work to feed herself) in the sands, on shifting ground. The 'small words'? That's what she relies on, and a business that runs by almost nothing but word of mouth for 20 years is worthy of a lot of respect. But it sounds as though that no longer works. I wonder whether the 'small words' nowadays don't go something like this:

"I wonder if I should get a reading, but I'd really rather spend the money on new shoes/ the holiday fund/ the kids' Christmas presents/ a new computer/ ..."
"Oh, don't worry, I know this really brilliant woman who won't charge you at all if you tell her you can't afford it."

But this line is no huge disaster. In the end, good fortune. Everything is in place, it's just a matter of continuing on the journey, not losing momentum. No real deviation from the Way here - maybe standing still on it a little too long.

11 unchanging is a real loose cannon among readings. All that creative energy, surging into life, bearing petty things away on a tide of greatness - but where is it leading?

I would think that Hexagram 11 is another tremendous endorsement of what she does (at least Yi is happy to advertise her
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) - what's 'wrong' with this is a lack of human application for the flow she channels. At least, that would be my preliminary guess - this last reading is the hardest one for me.

I hope some of this is helpful!

Off to resin the bow and de-tune the strings just enough to get the right effect...
 
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RE: 27.3, turning away from nourishment, this could also read 'turning away from the source of her nourishment,' or in other words, her job.

There's a saying: an artist's obligation is to their art, an entertainer's obligation is to their audience. I don't mean to suggest that she revert to cheap commercialism as mere entertainment, but if she fails to acknowledge her audience she forgoes the right to receive payment for her work. Turning away from nourishment.

I joking say on my profile: 'will think for food.' But if I don't find and utilize a commercial vehicle, a medium for my thinking, I will starve, and have no one but myself to blame for it.

If retaining purity in her gift and talent to read is the highest priority, unsullied by any financial gain, then it is her obligation to support herself by what we musicians refer to as 'her day gig.' If she will neither seek out her audience or work a day gig, she is in affect turning away from nourishment. No wonder she's distraught over how to make ends meet.

It would be no different if Bradford, Karcher or Marshall refused to have their Yi work published, and then complained because no one read their work.

A word about marketing. She need not resort to typical sensationalism or charlatanism to promote her service. She could choose to advertise in a legitimate and modest manner. She could take the high road; something like: "Genuine Psychic Readings." There?s no lose of dignity in this, only possible pride.

Waiting for the mountain to come to Mohammad is what comes to mind regarding her 5.

I don't mean to sound harsh, but I believe these are simple realities that many of us face.
 

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Ah yes, those realities. Know them well
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. Just occasionally I come across some others, too, that are not to be found in 'Business and Marketing 101'. Things like -
'Give your services away for free and you will have more paying customers.'

Maybe I should add, 'provided you want them.' After all, she's had as many clients as she wanted up until now, as far as we know. Something has changed - Soshin suggests it might be the economic climate, but I would doubt that. Maybe it's just that she doesn't feel compelled to do this work for money any more.

But this is more than enough speculation from me. I will do my best to shut up until Soshin has some feedback for us!
 
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Well, one could give something away for free, it doesn't need be the farm. A free consultation, for example, may not be a bad idea. Its what I do to market my product. I believe its also what you do to with your free course?

(hint)
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Hi, all!

Well, I have to make something clear. Sylvia never ever actually refused to get clients. She made advertisements in local newspapers which were less than successfull, they did not even pay the expenditures for them. In the eighties and nineties the business run well and without complications - just from the word of mouth, she raised a child and helped her husband to get the expensive qualifications for his job, when he himself earned almost nothing. Surely there were also times in those years when she were confronted with a less-then-average number of clients, but this was only for a short time always (mostly when the well needed some reconstruction - 48/4).

But since about 2001, things changed slowly, until now, the absolute all-time-low. But the real problem for her is not the financial one, but the feeling that she is not needed anymore and that her gifts are of no use anymore. She is thinking about making a website now, where she could give something for free (yes, she also thought about that) and could attract customers from all of the german-speaking countries (not only from the eastern part of Austria). So changes are already underway.

Dear Hilary, your analysis were absolutely helpful (especially the point with the importance of giving it a break one time). Thank you, too, for taking away the fear from me, that she could have gone fundamentally wrong on a certain point (27/3). I'll speak with her about the points of view of all of you in the near future.Very well done, the analysis with the well, where the rope could be too short etc.

Candid, I apologize for not being able to draw a picture of her which is close to reality. She is not at all withdrawn from the normal world, and she is not an enemy to self-marketing if it is in a correct and morally irreproachable way. Thank you for your input.

Sorry, I have to end because my computer crashes every now and then, and I don't want to loose what I have written until now.
Namaste and Happy Easter to all of you,

Soshin
 

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Candid - yes, and free help choosing questions, and free readings every now and again for people who email me. Most of the farm, in fact. But it seems to work out pretty well.

Soshin - yes, I knew she must have done something pretty spectacularly right all those years. There are not many people out there who make a serious living from this kind of work. I'm not one of them (yet!). It is great to hear that she still really wants to make her gifts accessible. If she wants any input on the website, tell her to drop me an email. (German would be OK, though I can't guarantee a very idiomatic answer.
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P.S. My latest experience with 48 unchanging was as a comment on what I could expect from the software I bought to stream (
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Hi all!

I spoke with Sylvia today evening and translated your worthful inputs to her. She was very happy with that she obviously did nothing spectaculary wrong.

Dear Hillary, I gave her your email adress, she is looking forward to exchange thoughts with you.

Thank you!

Namaste,

Soshin
 
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Hi Soshin

Just a note to say I did not forget to come back - but thought it better to remain silent as others were doing better than I could.

Warmly

--Kevin
 

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Hi, Kevin!

What a pity. I were looking forward to your point of view. Sylvia is taking all of your input VERY, VERY seriously and is happy about each single voice.

So if you already did it but hesitated to publish it because "others did better than you could", please feel free to add your lines too. Your point of view was always very valuable.

Warmest Greetings from Vienna and Linz (Upper Austria),

Soshin (and Sylvia)
 
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Hi Soshin

That's very kind of you.

What I could do is a Karcher model reading... It may well put a lightly diffeent hue on the oracle.

Could I have your friends rough age?

I will get it done early on the weekend.

Warmly

--Kevin
 

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Dear Kevin,

I'm running out of "thank you's" because you can be sure that I am very happy and grateful to be in the midst of such a bunch of wonderful people like you and Candid and Hilary. Sylvia is already underway, she is planning to make a lot of changes, and the help from the people on this site were extremely valuable to her. So I asked you about your point of view, too, sorry.

The age of her is (exactly) 47 years. Please don't hurry.


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Soshin
 
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cheiron

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Welcome Augra
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I was going to do a reading for you this weekend.

Do you want to give another question and casting?

Or choose one from the above which you would like to have gone into in detail?

Warm welcome

--Kevin
 

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Dear Members of the Clarity Community,

Thank you to each one of you for your help and your ability to emphasize. I took each single suggestion, and underwent an exact self-examination. And... yes! I made more than one finds.

Dear Candid,
Although I know and knew for sure that I really want to counsel further, I had to confess in the way of this self-examination that I developed certain preferences and disinclinations over the time. Questions asked by the clients which were enjoying me and some other questions, which did not taste any good anymore after all those years. Simply the inner attitude of mine that I am more happy to cure the inner roots of a certain problem than to deal with its outer branches prevented a certain affinity to some potentially interesting clients. Therefore I will bring myself again to that inner enthusiasm and verve I showed in my earlier years, through making it clear to those "fed up" parts in me, that dealing with the branches can also lead to the inner roots, with them I like to work so much. And yes, the was also a certain inner pride in the way.

Each real good counselling is as free as it gets from projections - with that I had not too much problems over the years. But now I obviously project my own inner need for clarity on others. So I have to change that, too.


Dear Hillary,

thank you for your promised help with the website. I'll come back to it when it is standing. As you see from above, I took your question if I really want to counsel anymore, very seriously.

I took the money always for the "worldly" questions, the help for the further inner spiritual development or the cure of deep-rooted pain of the soul were always for free. I do not want to change that.

I made seminars about astrology or tarot in which I spread my knowledge of those arts (for that were I paid for), but the counsel for inner developement was always included in the "price-tag"

For me it is from uppermost importance to help on the voyage of mankind to refinement. I want to make visible the unbelieveable loveable core in each man who comes in contact with me in the long run - first of all make visible to him/herself. In connection with that thought my personal needs stand behind, but it aches that there are so few people around which I can show them what I mentioned before. But the website - yes that could solve the problem.

Dear Kevin,

thank you for your fast help, and I am looking joyfully forward to what you will make. I am trying to implement all the help from all of you. This were to thank all of you and to tell you that your efforts were deeply appreciated.

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Yours,

Sylvia

(P.S. The responsibility for wrong translations lies within me - Soshin
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Dear Kevin

Soshin is speaking, but with the voice of Sylvia in the back...

Yes , she already did another reading yesterday, but I did not want to mention it because I did not want to "overstress" your help.

It was: "On what should I concentrate to get more clients?" She got 62, 1+4 changing to 32. And the same question but more on an inner level (totally open also for different directions to go): 49 unchanging. Of course I will go into detail with her about that today, but this message from here reached me a few minutes ago (Coincidence, coincidence)

Thank you beforehand, and thank you too for your warm welcome.

Soshin in the name of Augra
 
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Hi Soshin

Am already thinking about the second question > 49

Can you be a little more specific about the question which led to that?

No rush

Yes - Coincidence - I came home early turned the computer on meaning to shut down immediately and the TEST message came up... lol

--K
 
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Augra, welcome, and beautifully stated. I especially appreciate: "dealing with the branches can also lead to the inner roots" I so relate to your words here. Here, in the Arizona desert, due to the lack of moist soil, many plants have evolved methods of extracting moisture, not through it's roots but through its leaves' and branches' small hair-like fibers. Likewise, we can not always go directly to the roots of those we try to help, but if adapt, nourishment will find a way to the whole being.
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May your renewed enthusiasm bring light and blessing to all who are subject to your heart and wisdom.
 

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Dear Kevin,

thank you for your help beforehand. I had made a mistake in what I posted above. 62, 1+4 changing leads to 36, not to 32. Sorry.

The whole cyclus of questions I asked came to an end today (or I made it coming to an end) with a last, jokingly meant question. "I would like to be rich, successful and respected, without changing something I do now?" The answer was 41, 2+4+5 changing to 25 which led me to the conclusion that the Yi has a certain humor, nealy caricaturizing it.

But please, I wrote this only so that you know the whole cycle of answers from the Yi. I would be very happy if you would be so kind to go into detail about the answer you had in mind when you wrote:" Or choose one from the above which you would like to have gone into in detail?" I guess you had already one of the question/answers in mind as you asked that, and this would be the one I would be happy to get explained by you.

Not more please, the other qustions/answers are only for a better understanding of the whole cycle for me.

Wishing you well, looking forward your work,

Blessings,

Sylvia
 

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Dear Candid,

thank you for your warm wishes, I am deeply moved about this support, coming from as far as from the deserts of Arizona.

Blessings,

Sylvia
 

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"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root."

- Thoreau

Just came to mind...

:)

- Jeff
 

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