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Your Experiences with Unchanging Castings, Hexagram 16
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my period was unusually late, almost two weeks behind, and i'm quite regular so started to worry. asked what's up, where is it? 16 uc. i got it the next day, all was fine.
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I am renting a house where I have to pay rent + a fixed amount for bills.
This year, because of corona virus and other matters, I have been in the house for only 4 weeks since January, so I thought about asking the landlord for a discount on bills.
I got 16 un.
Landlord replied saying that his work is not going well but since I haven't been there all this time he believes my requests are based on solid motives, so yes, I can have a discount.
He said I can pay him 20€ less in total. Total discount since January 20€.
Let me just point out I don't live in Asia or Africa, where 20€ mean something. I live in a European capital, I can't even have dinner with 20€.
So 16 un can have a ridiculous touch to it. I still can't believe he suggested that.
This year, because of corona virus and other matters, I have been in the house for only 4 weeks since January, so I thought about asking the landlord for a discount on bills.
I got 16 un.
Landlord replied saying that his work is not going well but since I haven't been there all this time he believes my requests are based on solid motives, so yes, I can have a discount.
He said I can pay him 20€ less in total. Total discount since January 20€.
Let me just point out I don't live in Asia or Africa, where 20€ mean something. I live in a European capital, I can't even have dinner with 20€.
So 16 un can have a ridiculous touch to it. I still can't believe he suggested that.
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Last night at around 2am I was still awake in bed, as I’ve been sleeping erratically. I’d been watching a tv drama in bed and then turned it off to try and sleep. Suddenly I was aware of noises and heard one of the downstairs doors creak. Soon after I heard what I thought were footsteps on the stairs. I wasn’t alone in the house as my mother and son were both asleep in their rooms, and my mum’s dog (who sleeps in her room with her) usually barks at any strange noises. Still, I got up and peeped out of my bedroom door. I heard the cat flap go downstairs. The cat? Or someone pretending to be a cat?!? I locked my door and sat on the bed, listening intently. I asked yi if there was someone in the house or was it safe. 16uc.
there was no one in the house...! I assume it was my mum’s cat (although if so she’d make a terrible cat burglar)
there was no one in the house...! I assume it was my mum’s cat (although if so she’d make a terrible cat burglar)
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Years ago I got heavily into the works of Neville Goddard, who was an author and motivational speaker during the New Thought movement, which encourages the use of the imagination to bring what you want to pass in the physical world using affirmation, belief, visualization and prayer. I asked something along the lines of what is Neville actually doing in these techniques he teaches, and received 16 unchanging.
Ever since then I view 16 as the imagination, and in clear contrast to 15, ‘what is’.
The imagination could be written off as fanciful thinking, but many such as Abraham Hicks, Joseph Murphy and Neville Goddard see it as a first stage as to what manifests physically, so to some and in some cases 16 could just seem like an inspired moment, but the potential and power in the hexagram is real if one understands the power of the imagination and the inner world to reflect itself in the physical.
Ever since then I view 16 as the imagination, and in clear contrast to 15, ‘what is’.
The imagination could be written off as fanciful thinking, but many such as Abraham Hicks, Joseph Murphy and Neville Goddard see it as a first stage as to what manifests physically, so to some and in some cases 16 could just seem like an inspired moment, but the potential and power in the hexagram is real if one understands the power of the imagination and the inner world to reflect itself in the physical.
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I received 16uc this morning, having woken up early after a week of a heavy cold/flu & it's been feeling distinctly autumnal here (after a record breaking heatwave last week)
I asked about far future possibilities for myself, beyond this situation (family, bills, household, the daily grind of being a singular parent to a neurodiverse family & my own health, had to stop HRT for early meno, have spinal calc & trapped or pinched nerves etc) and later in my life (I'm not even 50 yet!) & I was thinking about places to visit, gatherings, books to write, projects, groups to join, workshops to attend etc
Also, I have the sense of something bright coming, that opens things up more for us, so the 16uc fits perfectly with that optimistic bright dreaming that helps shape the future, but needs more preparation to come into being & a careful eye on the tiller, but right now, 16uc says let the effervescence Fizz up!
If you don't dream of it, you'll never conceive it!
Of course, a friend texted me "Happy New Moon in Virgo and Happy Mercury Direct" this morning, and what can I say but that a New Moon and Mercury going direct after months of retro & standstill fits 16uc perfectly!
(Also, I often get uc when the moon is 'void of course', as in making no aspects to major stellar bodies)
Also, theres a lovely morning sun streaming in the window, settling into due east equinoctal positions, pure balancing harmony
The summer has felt very heavy, heavy weather, awful disasters around the world, fires, floods, earthquakes, rising cost of living; optimism is certainly needed & one needs 16uc moments to dream, to be motivated for the future, to imagine BEYOND present circumstances & yes there's a time for planning, figuring out what is feasable & realistic & the steps towards that & there's a time for enthusiastic full colour, light, sound and bling (like a Mardi Gras parade), to just enliven, encourage & bring HOPE
I often wonder if hexagram 16 does reference an ancient festival parade, where dancers dressed up, with masks & stamped on the earth & rattled, drummed, ullullated, screeched, waving flags & streamers of various colours in the wind?
A parade to visit the graves, dress them & leave gifts, perhaps? Libations, flowers, fruits of the harvest, moon cookies
Perhaps the 16uc is also about that inner riotous phantasmagoric parade of creativity inside of us; it's important to be connected to it & to listen, to go with it & to join in - Go dance around the 'Fairy Forts' in the moonlight!
It also reminds me that there is a title on a traditional Irish dance tune "Get Up Old Woman and Shake Yourself" & to me, thats a 16uc title
I asked about far future possibilities for myself, beyond this situation (family, bills, household, the daily grind of being a singular parent to a neurodiverse family & my own health, had to stop HRT for early meno, have spinal calc & trapped or pinched nerves etc) and later in my life (I'm not even 50 yet!) & I was thinking about places to visit, gatherings, books to write, projects, groups to join, workshops to attend etc
Also, I have the sense of something bright coming, that opens things up more for us, so the 16uc fits perfectly with that optimistic bright dreaming that helps shape the future, but needs more preparation to come into being & a careful eye on the tiller, but right now, 16uc says let the effervescence Fizz up!
If you don't dream of it, you'll never conceive it!
Of course, a friend texted me "Happy New Moon in Virgo and Happy Mercury Direct" this morning, and what can I say but that a New Moon and Mercury going direct after months of retro & standstill fits 16uc perfectly!
(Also, I often get uc when the moon is 'void of course', as in making no aspects to major stellar bodies)
Also, theres a lovely morning sun streaming in the window, settling into due east equinoctal positions, pure balancing harmony
The summer has felt very heavy, heavy weather, awful disasters around the world, fires, floods, earthquakes, rising cost of living; optimism is certainly needed & one needs 16uc moments to dream, to be motivated for the future, to imagine BEYOND present circumstances & yes there's a time for planning, figuring out what is feasable & realistic & the steps towards that & there's a time for enthusiastic full colour, light, sound and bling (like a Mardi Gras parade), to just enliven, encourage & bring HOPE
I often wonder if hexagram 16 does reference an ancient festival parade, where dancers dressed up, with masks & stamped on the earth & rattled, drummed, ullullated, screeched, waving flags & streamers of various colours in the wind?
A parade to visit the graves, dress them & leave gifts, perhaps? Libations, flowers, fruits of the harvest, moon cookies
Perhaps the 16uc is also about that inner riotous phantasmagoric parade of creativity inside of us; it's important to be connected to it & to listen, to go with it & to join in - Go dance around the 'Fairy Forts' in the moonlight!
It also reminds me that there is a title on a traditional Irish dance tune "Get Up Old Woman and Shake Yourself" & to me, thats a 16uc title
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To me an unchanging 16 is that its up to you, make it happen, there is energy but I think what Trojina said in the beginning of the thread, it can be pie in the sky but it can also be a goal. I find the energy to be positive its certainly not a 28 or 29 situation. I could relate to many of the experiences people had and overall it fairly positive, again make it happen fits nicely I believe.
Be well,
Be well,
Here’s an amusing one for you all 
Yesterday I asked “What if my partner and I get married?” and got 16 uc, which I had never cast before.
My partner and I have been together for almost six years and in the past two years have gone through a lot of very substantial change (on a personal level which of course reverberated in the couple) and struggle. We used to live together, they then asked to open our relationship which set a whole ball in motion which culminated in me asking them for a break and asking them to move out. I, on the other hand, had a spiritual awakening and started being very dedicated to a life of inner knowledge which made them feel threatened and like I was slowly moving away from our partnership. All of this coexists with a deep sense of belonging, the love we have for one another is unshakable and the joy we feel in each other’s presence is always fresh.
We’re now at a point where we feel we need a clear direction and the energy is very “make it or break it”, if you’ll excuse the superficiality of this saying.
I had read Yi’s response like a sort of invitation: unite your beings for the future to come, this merging will nourish the both of you.
I also see how the child on the elephant would speak of family and possible children. But I could also see how it could speak of the joy and enthusiasm we feel in each other’s company, as we both bring out the child in one another.
Today I asked out of curiosity “What if my partner and I don’t get married?”
Response… 16 uc!
What should I make of it?? Hahah Oh Yi!
Yesterday I asked “What if my partner and I get married?” and got 16 uc, which I had never cast before.
My partner and I have been together for almost six years and in the past two years have gone through a lot of very substantial change (on a personal level which of course reverberated in the couple) and struggle. We used to live together, they then asked to open our relationship which set a whole ball in motion which culminated in me asking them for a break and asking them to move out. I, on the other hand, had a spiritual awakening and started being very dedicated to a life of inner knowledge which made them feel threatened and like I was slowly moving away from our partnership. All of this coexists with a deep sense of belonging, the love we have for one another is unshakable and the joy we feel in each other’s presence is always fresh.
We’re now at a point where we feel we need a clear direction and the energy is very “make it or break it”, if you’ll excuse the superficiality of this saying.
I had read Yi’s response like a sort of invitation: unite your beings for the future to come, this merging will nourish the both of you.
I also see how the child on the elephant would speak of family and possible children. But I could also see how it could speak of the joy and enthusiasm we feel in each other’s company, as we both bring out the child in one another.
Today I asked out of curiosity “What if my partner and I don’t get married?”
Response… 16 uc!
What should I make of it?? Hahah Oh Yi!
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If you wanted help with the readings I could move this over to SR for you ? These threads are for people just to say what they thought their uc answers meant in hindsight. Well you have said what you thought it meant but I'm not sure if when you ask what to make of it if you wanted input? If so SR is the place.
Thank you Trojina and sorry for slightly going out of topic with my question, which you rightfully interpreted as asking for input!
But no, don’t worry - I mainly wanted to share and will update my post when things will be clearer, that way it could perhaps be a little more useful.