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Trojina

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I've sometimes found hex 26 difficult in terms of no matter how often it is explained, no matter how much I read on it, when I cast it as an answer I cannot figure to what extent it is a STOP and hold back or a GO as in 'don't eat at home'. Kinaesthetically hexagram 26 makes me think of hiccups. Why hiccups I don't know...holding breath then forcibly expelling it ...Looking at my own record I see I have had 26uc twice regarding if I should let things 'out there' or hold back.

On one occasion someone wanted to send a recording of something we had done widely in email to a number of contacts. He made a point of stressing that once it had gone out to x amount of people in email we would lose any control over what was done with it or where it would go. He asked me what did I think ? It was no big deal but I wondered why, when he was just about to send the emails he had stopped to point out to me we would have no control over it once it had gone. I asked Yi if we should send it to our contacts and got 26uc. I wasn't sure how to take that and expressed my uncertainty and hesitation over the issue to him at which point he seemed to grasp the hesitancy as a good reason to hold back. I think he had just needed some confirmation that holding back was necessary. In hindsight I am glad we held back and that he thought of holding back. Hmm so whether I understood 26uc well there I'm not sure but in practise it did seem to indicate holding back...later in my gut that felt right. it felt that what we had recorded was no where near 'ready'.

On another occasion it was a similar scenario. I was offering something in a public place. I asked if I should, got hex 26uc...took it as a yes but later held back again, and that felt right again.


hex 26 is Big Taming, just the right amount of pressure and release. When driving a big lump of metal called a car the whole operation is about holding back and releasing at the right time, the right amount. As a learner driver one can drive as if the car had hiccups as one lets go of the clutch too quickly and jerks forward etc etc....maybe that's where I get the idea of hiccups from.

I can't possibly say hex 26uc always means 'hold back' it's just in my examples it seemed to be coming up around a question of holding back versus releasing to the world. Maybe 26 uc often raises that question of how much to hold back ? A question of how much to hold back as potential versus how much to distribute/release.

Hoping others have more varied experiences of 26uc to share ?


Wing says of 26 uc


"The great weight of still meditation, KEN, in the upper trigrams contains tremendous creative force, CH'IEN, below. POTENTIAL ENERGY in it's static form is explosive. You will have to very carefully release the restraining pressures. Look for guidance in an experienced person who holds a position of authority or in historically sound organizations or methods. Act now."

I think that 'Act now' can be a bit confusing as to me it seems more a case of not acting or acting to just the right extent...as in driving a car.
 

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act wise and not in the spur of the moment is the general impression I get from my experience with hex26. There is a potential and most of the times we are aware of it and it feels pretty powerful. To me 26 is like the pause button that gives some time to get together , concentrate , and act in an informed way.
 

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I have got 26uc many times in questions about men that I meet that I like but am meeting them through a professional capacity and restraint is required. I once did not follow this advice, it did not end well because a lot of misunderstanding arose. I once did take this advice and the relationship still remains more of a professional acquaintance but its all good juju baby, and if I needed him for anything, like a tip on a job coming up or a referral etc. he would. I could count on that.

Sometimes fences bring you more freedom. :)
 

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I just now got a 26 unchanging asking about a friend's alcohol detox. He and his doctor are trying to figure out whether he should do a residential or outpatient program. I was slated to come visit/help out next weekend, assuming it'd be outpatient, but now it seems he might be going into a residential program instead. I asked (typical for me) a very open-ended question: what's useful for me to know about X's detox?

The 26 unchanging seems to be more about what it'll be like for him than about what I should expect, but I suppose that's fair enough given what I actually asked. (Although "not eating at home" might argue that he'd do better with a residential program.)

I'll update once I know more about the situation.
 
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I asked (typical for me) a very open-ended question: what's useful for me to know about X's detox?

The 26 unchanging seems to be more about what it'll be like for him than about what I should expect, but I suppose that's fair enough given what I actually asked. (Although "not eating at home" might argue that he'd do better with a residential program.)

I'll update once I know more about the situation.
Such an interesting reading !!!!
feels like Yi suggests residential program,as you also said- like "live the whole experience"

also the Image feels very apt !
Thus the superior man acquaints himself with many sayings of antiquity
And many deeds of the past,
In order to strengthen his character thereby.
would be great if you can update :) .. and good luck to your friend
 

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I just now got a 26 unchanging asking about a friend's alcohol detox. He and his doctor are trying to figure out whether he should do a residential or outpatient program. I was slated to come visit/help out next weekend, assuming it'd be outpatient, but now it seems he might be going into a residential program instead. I asked (typical for me) a very open-ended question: what's useful for me to know about X's detox?

The 26 unchanging seems to be more about what it'll be like for him than about what I should expect, but I suppose that's fair enough given what I actually asked. (Although "not eating at home" might argue that he'd do better with a residential program.)

I'll update once I know more about the situation.
Any updates a few months later Andrea ? :D
 

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In my experience - coming to terms with making a change within a same system, not out of it, with shades of nuclear hex 54's influence of the second wife struggling for a more agreeable living situation within the first wife’s domain.

This related to needing to request a job transfer to a different location within an organization, due to an untenable working situation with someone of higher rank at the prior location, and where I am much, much happier now.
 
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In my experience - coming to terms with making a change within a same system, not out of it, with shades of nuclear hex 54's influence of the second wife struggling for a more agreeable living situation within the first wife’s domain.
I just got Hexagram 26 unchanging in a question what do I need to know about my plans to move back to my hometown
This makes sense as I feel it's right to hold back until the time is right (albeit frustrating) and I can now see what needs to be worked on before I can move without taking the past with me.

my_key's take on this is very relevant for me - I'm getting rid of things in storage and a lot of my mental/emotional clutter.

26, "Great Accumulating" - Keep the focus on what you are trying to achieve by getting rid of all your clutter and baggage. It is the right time for you do do this.

Love and hugs

Mike

Re the underlined about the nuclear Hex 54 - it's definitely about a more agreeable living situation but in terms of the first wifes domain what does that mean? thanks, Liss
 

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Hi Liss,

The first wife (arranged marriage) was someone who could pull rank anytime on all the subjects in her household (including the second wife) according to her mood, whims, desire, power, greed, jealousy, etc. making them extremely miserable (...sounds a lot like Mrs. ex). So, to me, the first wife represents an oppressive person or condition with the power to wreak havoc on one's life which requires making adjustments to find the right niche for oneself.
 
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Jealousy is a hell of a drug. But if the first wife is a great mother and mature and wise wife, her little sister should be easily tamed.
 

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Any updates a few months later Andrea ? :D
Oh sorry -- he ended up doing it at home, tapering down on a strict schedule and checking in regularly with his doctor. It was a demanding ordeal, requiring enormous discipline and restraint as 26 promised.
 
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Hi Liss,

The first wife (arranged marriage) was someone who could pull rank anytime on all the subjects in her household (including the second wife) according to her mood, whims, desire, power, greed, jealousy, etc. making them extremely miserable (...sounds a lot like Mrs. ex). So, to me, the first wife represents an oppressive person or condition with the power to wreak havoc on one's life which requires making adjustments to find the right niche for oneself.
Thanks - not sure how it fits altogether yet - guess I'll know in time :)
 

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Jealousy is a hell of a drug. But if the first wife is a great mother and mature and wise wife, her little sister should be easily tamed.
True, both personalities play a role don't they. Either way, the work of hex 26 seems to me to be mostly about someone coming to terms with and finding a way to adapt to life in a dependent, subordinate position.

For example, it's interesting that hex 26 also came up in a Reading Circle question about whether or not Scotland would become a sovereign state a few months ago. The final vote, as we know now, was no, so Scotland similarly remains in the position of finding acceptable compromises to continue living peaceably within the existing system.
 

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I was worried about someone interpreting a remark I'd made in a way I hadn't intended. I asked Yi "How likely X thought I meant _____?" and received 26 unchanging.

(Yes, there are sensible caveats against asking Yi what's in someone else's mind instead of talking to them directly. But in this case, if X had not misinterpreted my remark, I would have looked odd bringing it up.)

My conclusion (reached in the process of writing a post for Shared Readings - typing to oneself helps) - was that Yi meant I was making a big deal out of this when it wasn't one.

I had noted that Bradford Hatcher's name for hexagram 26 is "Raising Great Beasts," and LiSe Heyboer names it "Raising Big Cattle." It reminded me that I think I've gotten hexagram 26 to refer to simple size or bigness, as contrasted with hexagam 9 as smallness. I think I've also gotten 26 to mean needing to tame big emotions (Hilary names 26 "Great Taming") - so, "tame this - do not raise it into a big worrisome beast."

But I wasn't 1000% confident, since I had come up with other supportable interpretations of 26uc which led to different conclusions. So I tried to confirm: "How likely you meant something like 'tame this,' 'don't make a big deal out of this,' or 'do not raise this into a big beast when it's not one'?" Yi gave me 32.2 > 62.

62 can mean ordinariness - X took my remark in the simple ordinary way I meant it. 32 - my remark did not "endure" with X. And 32.2 is ‘Regrets vanish.’ So there was the confirmation (unless I'm really missing something).
 
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Got hex 26 uc today when I asked the Yi if my friends and I would meet up for Dungeons and Dragons like we do every Tuesday. Normally a few hours before we meet up we all start texting to get a feel for the time we'll come together, but nobody said a word and neither did I. I just kind of waited to see what would happen, and found out that we'll all meet later this week. Which is good, because I wasn't feeling it today!
 

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I concur with Trojan's experience of 26UC: it comes up for me in a context of how much to hold back.

Recently a contract I was working on was terminated halfway by a junior manager with an unlimited ego, who added insult to injury by claiming that he could replicate my work (which had taken 1 month, drawing on years of past experience) in 30' of googling (the pompous idiot didn't know what he didn't know... He wouldn't even have known what to google. Let alone been able to navigate material in several foreign languages).

As part of the termination settlement, I agreed to hand over some of my research AFTER being paid. Had it been someone friendly, I would have handed over everything I had. But in this case I knew that I would get no gratitude for good will, he would just shine at my expense while belittling my work to his superiors. I was so angry that I wanted him to get his comeuppance, "go on then, see how long it takes to replicate my work!". i was also concerned about creating a future competitor...In short, he was so offensive that I wanted to give him as little as I could get away with. At the same time, I don't like being consumed by pettiness... These people eventually get their comeuppance, it's not my job to be the instrument of Fate! My only responsibility is to protect my own interests.

So I was struggling about where to draw the line. I asked the IC "what if I withhold X?" And got 26UC. "You will be holding back information and accumulating knowledge for future use". Which was a good description of my situation... As a matter of interest, I also asked "what If I give him X?" And got 24.1 "you will be doing what is correct and moving on your merry way". Given that either course of action was Ok, I took it to mean that it was entirely up to me where I chose to draw the line...

I decided to hold back at least for awhile, and give it some more thought. See what feels right. I suppose it all depends if I ever want to work for this company again on this topic, in which case withholding some information would give me more future power. Or if I want to be rid of them forever, in which case giving it all and moving on would bring the good fortune of not wasting time worrying about petty matters!

So, exactly the sort of situation Trojan describes. This happened too recently to have an outcome yet.
 
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I look at 26. The Taming Power uc in terms of it following 25. Innocence. The hexagram for Innocence describes the experience of going out in the world all dewy-eyed and filled with optimism only to be the victim of undeserved misfortune - 25.3 - and then the final line, 25.6, advises it's best not to try to make further progress. So what does one do next when it's best not to push ahead in opposition to fate?

Well this brings us to hex.26 where the image is of the creative energies now being held back ( the lower trigram Heaven blocked by the upper trigram Mountain). Yet the Judgement says, "Perseverance furthers! Not eating at home brings good fortune! It furthers one to cross the great waters!" So how does that go with the command to restrain yourself? Maybe it's meant as a pep talk - that although this is a time to hold back, don't give up, now is the time for building up strength that one might ultimately go out into the world, cross the great water and prosper, and not be ripped off again like a 25.Innocent hick.

The image then tells us how to strengthen ourselves at this time: "The superior man acquaints himself with many sayings of antiquity and deeds of the past, in order to strengthen his character thereby." It's like the IC is saying, "Stop and read the directions. See what other people did that worked. Learn from their mistakes so you wont have to make them."

I think it's apt that line 25.6 leads to 26.1 as if at 25.6 Mr.Innocent is told, "Action brings misfortune! Nothing furthers!" then 26.1 explains why: "Because danger is at hand and it furthers one to desist."
 
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The jun zi 'makes use of large stores of knowledge of prior ideas and past deeds with which to develop such character.'
-Bradford.

One day I had no pressing matters or affairs to attend to and was wondering what to do with myself.
I cast and got 26 unchanging.

So, I went to the library and read:
Jane Addams: Spirit in Action by Louise W. Knight

Several things impressed me about her, particularly
her sincerity and pragmatism in recognizing the reality of the culture around her, and a balanced action that allowed her spirit to work in the world, to flow on even when it was blocked. Reminded me of 29.
 
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Got hex 26 uc today when I asked the Yi if my friends and I would meet up for Dungeons and Dragons like we do every Tuesday. Normally a few hours before we meet up we all start texting to get a feel for the time we'll come together, but nobody said a word and neither did I. I just kind of waited to see what would happen, and found out that we'll all meet later this week. Which is good, because I wasn't feeling it today!
Hehe,
I used to GM.
Roll a Wisdom check at +5 please.
(I'm using the old system so, so that's a compliment not a slight.)
 
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I think it's interesting that hex 2 says "The superior man with breadth of character carries the outer world" - which I think means a person of wide experience can relate to what he sees going on in his world because he's had past experiences and developed breadth of character - but how is one to attain such breadth of character if you haven't had all the experiences?

26 tells us how: You don't have to go out and experience everything - make every mistake - first hand in order to learn. 26 uc image says, "The superior man will acquaint himself with sayings and deeds of the past and strengthen [broaden] his character that way."
 
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In May 2015 I asked if the CEO of the company I have already left would act as CEO in 2016 and got 26 UC what made me think that she would leave office. Later, in September I repeated my question to the IC (CEO still worked in the company). I got the same answer!

Today I have learnt that she is leaving at the end of February.
 

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Thanks. What made you think 26uc would mean she would leave ? I mean what particular aspect of the text or your impression of it told you that ? I'm curious as I can't see it.
 

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Controlled Power means being firm and correct. If its subject doesn't enjoy his family revenues at the expense of public service, there will be good fortune. It will be advantageous to cross the great stream. (Legge)

The main idea of it taken from Tuck Chang's website is that the good fortune is here since the king enhances his virtue and ability to achieve the great goal in the future. "Restraining here means disciplining oneself to prevent wrongdoing." From the same source: "Not eating at home means that the king should not keep the herded livestock just for himself but rather share with able and virtuous people."

Occupying the high position the person was unable to overcome her own fixations and desires, she served her own interests only, not the company's. Everything was reverse to what is described in the previous paragraph. As it turned out, her retirement was a matter of time.

Nowadays, 26 UC for me is a hex of great achievement, a challenge demanding one's unselfishness, modesty and strength.

"What is restrained accumulates its strength and increases its volume to become a great reservoir of force." (Legge)
 

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Occupying the high position the person was unable to overcome her own fixations and desires, she served her own interests only, not the company's. Everything was reverse to what is described in the previous paragraph. As it turned out, her retirement was a matter of time.
Thanks but I'm still baffled, I can't follow your reasoning. Do you mean as she was unable to follow the advice of 26 she would retire ? That seems far fetched. I mean you interpreted it as she would leave and she did leave so you were right but I really don't understand how you got there.

Not to worry, I can't understand everything I suppose.
 

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That seems far fetched.
I don't think so. As the person had not been able to change her course of conduct, the door closed.
 

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Well your interpretation proved correct. It's just I'd think if she was unable to fill her role it would be more likely to show up another way rather give 26 as an ideal she could not fulfil. Strange. Well we live and learn.

Oh and thank you for posting this unusual example.
 

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Do you know how old the CEO is? Can 26 mean a process of growing up or maturing - is it possible she simply reached retirement age this month?
 

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52 years old. The women's retirement age in Russia is 55.
 

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Well then that's probably not it. Unless as the CEO she has enough money to retire early?

26 can mean Great Accumulation, and sometimes retirements can be based on years of service as well as age (at least here in the U.S.; I don't know how it works in Russia). Is there any milestone you can think of that might apply to her this month? An important anniversary with the company or something?

What confuses me is if she wasn't fulfilling her duties, and had to leave because of it, why would the company keep her around all this time until now? (From at least last May, when you first asked.)
 

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Perhaps, the retirement is the wrong word here. By retirement I implied leaving office in general. The CEO was appointed by the Board and was destituted by the Board.

Is there any milestone you can think of that might apply to her this month? An important anniversary with the company or something?
Nothing. I still remember the milestones, even the numbers and dates of the decrees.

What confuses me is if she wasn't fulfilling her duties, and had to leave because of it, why would the company keep her around all this time until now? (From at least last May, when you first asked.)
Everybody in the company was perplexed by this fact, the Board completely ignored what was going on.
 

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