Food

[precision grace]

Q; What is preventing me from achieving optimal physical health and shape?

A: 27 uc




Q: What can I do to ensure optimal nutrition for myself?

A: 44.2.3 > 12

Hm. I am not really sure how to read this one here. There is obviously the imagery of temptation and the 12 is blocked, I could read this simply as 'resist temptation', that would certainly make perfect sense. Wondering however if anyone sees anything useful in the lines themselves. Eat more fish perhaps?

 

[ginnie]

Line 44.3 speaks of inconsistency and that you need to stir yourself to higher effort, in which case there will be no major problem.

Almost everyone can improve his or her diet, especially by upping the number of fruits and vegetables eaten every day.

But 27 urges us to look at all sources of nourishment, not just food for the body. There is also food for the mind, and food for the soul.

 

[pocossin]

The trigrams of 27 may be read as moving the mountain. Don't try to move it too fast. Slowly introduce new foods and habits into your life. Make big changes gradually. Aim for long-term results.

 

[anemos]

Q; What is preventing me from achieving optimal physical health and shape?

A: 27 uc




Q: What can I do to ensure optimal nutrition for myself?

A: 44.2.3 > 12

Hm. I am not really sure how to read this one here. There is obviously the imagery of temptation and the 12 is blocked, I could read this simply as 'resist temptation', that would certainly make perfect sense. Wondering however if anyone sees anything useful in the lines themselves. Eat more fish perhaps?

Nice answers and I agree with your take.
44>12 could ask for a way to tame those unhealthly drives... I see it not that as resist, but set up your mind as they don't overdrive you but you control them by issuing your comments. IOW, must act from a inner conviction rather thaforbid t your self from "tasting" unhealthy foods or thoughts. Resistance is energy consuming.

 

[Liselle]

One thing I wondered about when I read your first question was, "What do you mean by that?" "Optimal physical health and shape" could mean a lot of things. What are you picturing in your mind when you envision "optimal health and shape"? "Health" and "shape" can even be two different things.

Are there health measures you want to improve (resting heart rate, etc.)? Do you want to lose weight? Is your weight okay, per the height-weight charts or BMI or whatever, but you want to look better in your clothes or (I don't know how old you are!) prepare for bikini season? Is there a sport you want to participate in that requires more muscular strength or cardiovascular endurance than you have right now?

So forth and so on. I realize there are overlaps among all those things, and if you're 50 pounds overweight, for example, that's probably not healthy by any definition. But short of anything really obvious, I think what is "necessary" (hexagram 27) depends on what your definition and your goals are.

Reaching farther (since I don't know the answer to the question I just asked you), it's possible that 27 unchanging could mean that what you have in mind is not necessary, especially when combined with your second reading, 44.2.3 > 12.

44 can mean something intrusive; 44.3 can mean a huge, exhausting, overwhelming, time-consuming task or mandate. The readings might be telling you that what you have in mind is not really necessary (27uc), may be exhausting (44.3), and may not even be entirely achievable (44.2). Maybe it's telling you that a lesser goal than what you have in mind would be better, all things considered.

 

[Liselle]

Reaching farther (since I don't know the answer to the question I just asked you), it's possible that 27 unchanging could mean that what you have in mind is not necessary...

Let me rephrase that slightly, since unchanging hexagrams aren't supposed to mean "not" the hexagram...

Maybe 27 unchanging is asking you a question, like, "What is actually necessary for you to be healthy and in good shape?" or "How necessary is it for you to achieve the [possibly quite high] goal you have in mind?"

(Again, I might be going too far out on a limb before you've clarified anything...)

 

[precision grace]

Thank you all, I have thought about looking at the issue from all those sides and it's good to see echoes coming back. Lisa - I have thought that 'not being able to achieve this goal' may be the problem all along; although your version, 'not necessary' is somehow even scarier. Like, it doesn't matter if I am healthy and strong.

(btw, by optimal health and shape, I just mean being the best, healthiest and strongest version I can be, without going overboard; just really healthy and fit really)

I think the answer contains everything you all mentioned - pocossin - do it slowly and gradually but permanently
anemos - fighting the urges is energy expensive (so true!)
and lisa - it is not within my capabilities to achieve this (I have a long standing complicated health issues which is why I am struggling to do and be what seems normal and easy for most people e.g., recently a lady 10+ years my senior managed to achieve in sport what I can only dream about; I can't train hard as it just fatigues me and renders me useless for a long time and training slow and little never achieves the desired results)

 

[goddessliss]

Thank you all, I have thought about looking at the issue from all those sides and it's good to see echoes coming back. Lisa - I have thought that 'not being able to achieve this goal' may be the problem all along; although your version, 'not necessary' is somehow even scarier. Like, it doesn't matter if I am healthy and strong.

(btw, by optimal health and shape, I just mean being the best, healthiest and strongest version I can be, without going overboard; just really healthy and fit really)

I think the answer contains everything you all mentioned - pocossin - do it slowly and gradually but permanently
anemos - fighting the urges is energy expensive (so true!)
and lisa - it is not within my capabilities to achieve this (I have a long standing complicated health issues which is why I am struggling to do and be what seems normal and easy for most people e.g., recently a lady 10+ years my senior managed to achieve in sport what I can only dream about; I can't train hard as it just fatigues me and renders me useless for a long time and training slow and little never achieves the desired results)

Me too Grace - I've been struggling for years. The other day I went had a session with a women who works in cell memory - I said I want all cell memory that no longer serves me to be released. So far I can feel the differences in some ways. Hope you find something that helps you too. - Liss

 

[Liselle]

Grace - well - I didn't know all that, that you have health problems that make it difficult to do much of anything. I'm sorry to hear that. It's so frustrating when you want to do something good for yourself and you can't.

I didn't mean to sound as if being healthy and strong was "not necessary" at all or didn't matter. It was more a matter of degree.

What I had in mind when I posted was along the lines of a study I heard about several years ago, which said that for most women to be in really good shape, they'd have to exercise intensely for 60 minutes each and every day - cardio, weights, etc. I suspect that's correct, if "really good shape" means something like well-toned and not flabby.

E.g. in my case - I'm not overweight, but if I wanted to get rid of my persistent tummy bulge and not be flabby, I suspect it would take that sort of intense exercise. A brisk 20-minute walk several times a week wouldn't do it.

But, a lot of people don't have the time, inclination, or ability for that kind of exercise, and the walking would still have health benefits and is worth doing.

That's what I was thinking about, but it sounds as if it's not really what you had in mind - you meant optimal for you.

Will have to think about the readings more in light of what you've told us...not sure I'll get any more out of them, though.

 

[pocossin]

Two links on shaping the body:

http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2025702384_obesitystudyxml.html
A group of respected physicians is challenging the common assertion that obesity can be easily fixed by diet and exercise. . .The depressing fact, Ochner said in an interview, is that “the average adult with sustained obesity has less than a 1 percent chance of reattaining and maintaining a healthy body weight without surgery.”

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2015/02/17/focusing-on-fiber-may-work-for-weight-loss/
People who only focused on eating 30 grams of fiber per day lost almost as much weight as those who followed a more complicated diet, according to a new year-long study.