Qi crashes

[Sparhawk]

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BTW, I think - no guarantee of accuracy here at all - that ginseng, like St John's Wort, may interfere with the efficacy of the Pill. <!-/Quote-!><HR SIZE=0></BLOCKQUOTE>

Come on Hilary! Toss the pill, get the ginseng, have some crazy "....brains out" fun and have a few babies.

Luis

 

[cheiron]

Boot = Trunk as in car / automobile

--Kevin

 

[Sparhawk]

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My ?get me through the day? is Cocoanut water.<!-/Quote-!><HR SIZE=0></BLOCKQUOTE>

And if you add, 3 oz. white rum, 4 oz. of Pineapple Juice and 1 cup crushed ice, you've got a Piña Colada in your hands.

That'll get you "through the night" also...

Luis

 

[candid]

Thanks, Dij. Not on my game yet though. Wish I was.

Hilary, nice disclaimer.

I don't ingest anything without some research and assuming full responsibility. I've never been involved with the court system, other than one divorce and serving as forman on a jury. Don't plan on changing that anytime soon.

 

[cheiron]

heheheh

Nice one Luis

--K

 

[Sparhawk]

Further from Steve. I think this clarifies his opinion:

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Further point, can you post this:

Maybe Kevin had flu. Ginseng isn't recommended if you're exhausted from flu,
then it's best to wait until the "turn" and use ginseng to aid recovery. It
is true that if you're exhausted because of flu and you take ginseng it can
make matters worse. But if the flu is on the turn and recovery is coming,
that is precisely the time to take it. Sounds like Kevin's herbalist didn't
want to risk that the "turn" had been reached, although the term "Post Viral
Fatigue" in itself implies the turn has been reached. I once misjudged the
timing, since flu can come in waves, and the ginseng aided the enemy as it
were. But if you get the timing right (hexagram 24 incidentally is the
point, the return of yang, see my page on the pigua cycle), then ginseng can
wipe away the exhaustion of flu extremely well. But in commercial dealings
the doctor really has to be sure the turn has been reached otherwise their
patients will be moaning, so they will often give a less effective but safe
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Luis

 

[cheiron]

Yup

Interesting... Good point...

BTW - It was ten years before I could work again... Some crash... I had to learn a lot about my energy and why I crashed and find a way back... 47... hard lessons learned.

--Kevin

 

[pedro]

Sorry guys, its not like I read all this thread, but I wanted to elaborate on my previous post, how it is all mental, at least what I uncovered so far and has been working for me

I went through a very long and disturbing period that ended a couple of weeks ago; at times I felt really drained, exhausted, unmotivated, close to despair... the rest of the time I just felt bad
But what was worse was that I could neither let it show to others, it was my obligation for a number of reasons (we never lack reasons), nor had I any solution in perspective that would give the slight hint of an escape;

It all ended when I started reading ACIM and started to realize all my subconscious guilt. Just freeing myself of (some of) that guilt has taken such a burden off my shoulders that I now feel energetic, invigorated, free to do whatever I choose, and certain of achieving it. Its not that I cannot go back to the old ways anymore, but they do not offer the sweet illusion they once did, as I realise their inevitable outcome, back to fear and pain

But what guilt is that? I hear you ask... well, I dont have the time or the skills to put it out in a comprehensive manner that would fit all; but all guilt is but an appearance of the only real guilt we all share, which is the guilt of the separation, of recognizing we keep on choosing every time our own (seemingly proved but utterly ineffective) solutions, instead of the only one that will ever work, which is that of God's.
That separation, the illusion of self and other, subject and object, has a number of associated problems. The most relevant here is the projection of guilt onto others and the world, away from where it really lies: in ourselves. It is the first step, to acknowledge that we are responsible for EVERYTHING that happens to us, and that includes external factors, like luck and circumstances, as well as all relationships and interactions we have with other beings, and even all pain and disease, and ultimately death, as the body is the material paradigm of the illusion of separation, and must decay and die to prove that we are right, and God has indeed abandoned us. We rather be dead than wrong, but healing and even resurrection is possible, if we understand the truth
But one common misinterpretation is believing that one can be saved alone, that we can leave others to their suffering while we escape towards God. But others are really just ourselves, and while a part of me is suffering there can be no true happiness. We can only join hands in walking the path
Bottom line, you dont forgive you or your brothers (that would affirm the existence of a sin, or that you and I are imperfect, unlike what God said), you realise that there was never any error to be forgiven:
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But even if some of these ideas may be too hardcore for you to accept, there is one simple way of understanding where does our energy go when we feel drained. It is lost in the conflict between our antagonic emotions. Fire and water must be homogenised, otherwise they will fight each other to exhaustion
We have many goals, many things we?re after, many things we?re avoiding. All those expectations, self imposed mostly, that we feel we need to fulfill, are putting an enormous amount of pressure on ourselves, which will require enormous amounts of energy merely to cope with the mental part, of anticipating the future, and revising the past
We lose in any case, cause the future causes anxiety (fear), and the past causes guilt
We cannot win unless we remain in the present, where we can see that nothing is expected of us because we have done everything already, and we did it just the way it should have been
We have to trust in ourselves, and realise we are perfect already, no need to do anything except feel the recognition, feel the love for ourselves, so we can then, when our hearts are filled, overflow that love to others

So basically just start by loving yourself (or actually, remove the obstacles you placed on loving yourself), and all the rest will come

 

[pedro]

Btw, according to ACIM all medicine is but a placebo, whose only real function is making us believe that it will cure us, and just seems to work because of that

Since all cure is a mental process (achieved through forgiveness), the only real need is to believe in what we ARE