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but then Hex 23 line 2 says:Wing: The person in this position has indeed developed in himself a true appreciation of humanity in all of its folly and beauty. Such a person can lead others with wisdom, compassion, and inspiration, and attain all the success attributed to the great and wise historical leaders.
So this sounds somewhat terribly bad. What would you say?Wilhelm/Baynes: The bed is split at the edge. Those who persevere are destroyed. Misfortune.Blofeld: He continues peeling off at the edge of the bed. There is no steadfastness -- misfortune! Blofeld: This implies being left without friends.
so does it suggest that acting in the same way as others (allowing other people to influence me badly) will cause myself becoming just like them?Hex 13 line 2 Cleary (1): Sameness with people in the clan is regrettable.
this sounds like confirming my initial idea... also Hex 1 line 2 mentions not only dragonWing: There is a tendency toward elitism and exclusivity. This creates limitations for everyone in society. Such a situation of egotism and selfish interests will bring regret.
but also suggests that by holding into my principles I will become a great man/superior man - and this is the outcome that will happen, if I will pass all of the challengesWilhelm/Baynes: Dragon appearing in the field. It furthers one to see the great man.
what do you think, Rosada? Also I think that I should not attack others openly [only being defensive of my own values/morals when necessary] and not to shut others out [even the negative people] because if I will allow them to affect me negatively, there's no big difference between myself and them. I should rather radiate positive energy towards both ''negative'' and ''positive'' people because few years ago I was just like the most negative guys out there... how can I judge them? Of course this is also with holding my own boundaries.Legge: We have the superior man developing, by means of the processes described, into the great man, with the attributes of a ruler, the appearance of whom is a blessing to men. / Siu: A transformation ensues. The man appears among his peers, although not yet in a position of authority. His virtues are displayed, and his goodness becomes known. The prognosis is good for his impact upon the world. It is propitious to see him.
I read some where that "studies" show if you work within 25 feet of a jerk you will become a jerk too! Anyway, I do think it's healthy for us to be aware of the patterns of the people around us and recognizing someone is negative and toxic can actually be necessary to our own survival.
I've already learned those lessons and the Oracle also confirmed (on several other occasions) that I shouldn't mix with people like that. For me it feels like a big ultimate test of mastering myself. (one who masters others is strong, but one that masters himself is stronger or something like that ��)
And the thing is that I obviously don't need a divination to know that I should rather aspire upwards towards healthy strong people who achieved more than me not less
Ok I think I have found that thing shared by all of the people from that team : we are all damaged somehow. For example, one girl - living outside of her homeland due to bad relationship with her mother. She's the most toxic person I've meet in years. Other girl, the one that's no longer working there, but was in that team, supposedly abused sexually and alcoholic father, other girl also not working there any longer, alcoholic father, both parents died suddenly. First guy, don't know all of his story but said he has ADHD since being a kid, and start taking drugs when young plus huge debts from his father company , second dude said he's from very poor family, also emigrated.. One young girl, her father left and she was raised by her mum and random people.. And then myself, alcoholic father who committed suicide at the end, narcissistic mother, emigrated, heart disease. I'm definitely on the other end of the spectrum re processing all this trauma but.. That's it. But what does that make us.
I asked "What do I need to realize in this current position?" and got Hex 13.2>1
So it's like on most days I am able to radiate positivism and be above this,
which is a nice change after 2 years of being there - a progress that I was able to make. Even on that day I spent 30 minutes openly talking with one of the guys exactly about importance of self development, healthy living, being positive etc. and then what happens? A dude from another team [negative gossiping person] comes in and that other guy from my team instantly * snaps * and starts talking negative stuff about the country and the people in it.
Energy changes in a nanosecond. So what can I do? Not much really. Nor do I should work on them becoming positive, it's not going to happen. I can only concentrate on myself, my own boundaries and not allowing their BS to touch me. But on some days my fuse just blows up. I just feel too much. It's both a blessing and a curse.
MrKind
Yea.. And the thing is that I obviously don't need a divination to know that I should rather aspire upwards towards healthy strong people who achieved more than me not less, or who are still far back in their struggles with life and themselves because any sort of codependence like that will only be beneficial to them and not myself at this point. I've already learned those lessons and the Oracle also confirmed (on several other occasions) that I shouldn't mix with people like that. For me it feels like a big ultimate test of mastering myself. (one who masters others is strong, but one that masters himself is stronger or something like that ��)
It's also faster to write 'toxic' than ''the utmost need to engage in negative self-talk, bad gossip, cursing, negativity'' and stuff like that on a daily basis for 2 yearsFor sure there will be people we don't want to be around because they are nasty or simply because we don't especially like them but does that make them 'toxic' ? Saying they are 'toxic' or 'damaged' converts people into objects, labelled objects defined purely by your own perception.
I don't deny their suffering. I am very well aware of it. But as I said, it is not my job to fix them nor to pretend it is healthy to behave like this. Just because it affects not only them, but others around - whether they feel it or not.I mention this kind of thinking in connection to the new age because there has been some dreadfully 'toxic' stuff put out by people who think they can control their environment by removing themselves from 'negativity' basically through denial of other's suffering.
It depends how you look at it. I don't judge them, I was in a similar place (more or less) in a distant past so I understand this (I never though openly said things about others like some of them do, like in front of others). But I can certainly see my own point in life, and I can see theirs. It's just an observation.You have compared yourself to the people at work and say you are on the 'other end of the spectrum' and earlier compared your health regime and life style to theirs almost as if that made you a more evolved person. But it's not that simple at all.
Again, if it was only that simple... in this case even I Ching advises against it. And then again, I am not concentrating on it. I don't share my private life with anyone in there! It's rather them pouring that out without invitation. (oh gee and now you will say that I used this ''me'' vs ''them'' thing again )If you want to leave your job because you aren't happy there then isn't it better to own that than to focus so intently on your work mates private lives/habits/family situations ?
Believe it or not but on that last Friday that guy said it to me himself: that he thinks that I am well above his own level in terms or figuring things out... And yes, people generally can say when someone is grounded, or radiate honest positive energy coming directly from one's heart. They don't need to feel it directly like I do, but basically everyone senses it on different levels. I am not saying that I am like a sun every day - but those days happen. On other days I am stable, grounded, happy. I need yet to see a constant of a few days like that from other members in that team. Also, others with clean energy don't have any problems with recognizing my own pure energy - and it is easy to feel if youre aligned with yourself. And one of the most beautiful feelings you can feel, when someone is speaking directly from their own heart and I can literally FEEL a beam of energy pulsating from their hearts.I wonder if they think you 'radiate positivism' ?
of course not. I would be in the first line of people fighting for the freedom of speech. But in here, the medium is the message. It's not about the topics they were discussing. It's about the energy and emotions in it. Negative. Blaming. Cursing. Bad emotions. Bad energy. Useless, pointless. Habitual vicious loop that produces bad vibes I don't want to be around. Simple. When you don't like something you either go and change it or accept it, right? Being negative for the sake of being negative serves no purpose.You want to stop people talking about the state of the country in the way they want to ? Are you on the road positivity fascism ? Positivity fascism is a state of denial where people try to insulate themselves against the world and the unexpected by denying anything that doesn't fit with their positivity agenda. I think it arises out of fear but has the effect of denying the reality of suffering, pain, problems of others as merely things that will 'infect' their own alleged 'purity' and evolution. It can result in unwitting cruelty to others since you see other people almost as pollutants to your own so refined energy field.
Look, I get what youre trying to say here. I am doing my best to see the positive sides in all of them. But that serves mostly me, not them. It's hard to be positive about someone you know was gossiping about you, backstabbing you, lying to you on a daily basis, trying to get a promotion over you in a dirty way, talks negative about your friends and yourself, other colleagues and pretends to be positive. Because thats what one girl there does, for example. It would be stupid to try and make myself friends with such people. I feel too much to pretend I don't know this.But you aren't being positive about them. Also bear in mind you won't know everything about them and how they are in the rest of their lives. Physical purity/diet/yoga/cycling doesn't make saints just people who are into those things. For all you know they might be supporting others in all sorts of loving ways and you don't know about it.
you see with my empathy it is like I download the whole energetic spectrum of the person the second I meet them. I literally know where they are at life, what emotions they felt in recent years were dominant, where they are heading. It's really hard to call something you feel is black - white. But I get your point. I am doing my best to not judgmental. This somewhat works. But I have no idea how to shield myself from their energies. It's not possible as I tried a lot of things... the only thing that somehow worked is to transform the energy there [not by trying to convince the wolf he is a sheep ] I won't be saying about the methods, but it's draining too. So this is why I was looking for different ways out from this situation through getting another work. I don't want this to sound like an argument - as English is not my 1st language - I appreciate all of your input. Btw, I don't mean they can't fix themselves. But that's not my job to fix them.13.2 isn't asking you to label these people, isn't asking you to put them into categories like 'toxic' and 'damaged'. People are not objects and so can never really be seen as 'damaged goods' since their spirits are untouchable, their souls endure, they can always change and revive themselves but calling them 'damaged' makes it sound like somehow they are irreversibly ruined and that's not true.
Yes ofc I dont like them very much, I recognize that one is intelligent, the other one has nice sense of humor and all that but I wont be calling them for a tea after work either.So I think it would help to recognize you don't like them and don't much want to be around them. That's honest and you are at least owning your own feelings which are valid.
I have no idea you keep mentioning New Age, you have some sort of a grudge on it? Must be because I haven't mentioned it even once and I don't see a connection. I just don't fancy being forced to spend 8.5 hours every day with negative people who would stab me in the back with mere occasion presenting itself. That's not new age, that's just common sense. That's all. I guess if I wrote ''people who are mature enough to be honest'' wouldn't be better either? I spent plenty of years in my life meeting with people who turned out to be just like the people I describe [in this or other ways] and it NEVER turned out well for me. Since I started trusting my intuition I haven't made any mistake and live a drama-free life - except this weird team I haven't chosen in my current work place.You can see why I mentioned 'positivity fascism ' ? You only want to mix with 'strong healthy people' ? This statement is kind of repugnant to me in that it is quite reminiscent of Nazi Germany..only the fittest, only the strong Of course new age philosophies are riddled with this kind of thing...'oooh keep away from negative people...keep away from sick people....maintain your purity' that's an underlying theme in some of that stuff and unfortunately you have really bought into it.
Clarity,
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