More challenges 5.3.6>61

becalm · Oct 29, 2019

Naturally even though it felt right to come here I’m faced with more challenges and am very very stuck.
What is the best way to deal with my present challenges Hex 5.3.6>61
Line 3 - yes I am very stuck and cannot see a way out at this point. No matter what I try to do I get nowhere fast.
Line 6 - something or someone will turn things around unexpectedly for me. Interesting one of the challenges involves 3 people. Two who are supportive and one who couldn’t be more selfish which the other two recognise but the 3 of them are very entwined in each other’s lives and again I can’t move one way or the other.
Hex 61 looks like I should stay persistent and confident.

Fortuny1889 · Oct 29, 2019

I agree with your analysis and I would add that you have to be ready to welcome the three characters. Make room, put food and drinks aside for the unexpected guest.
From the waiting you will go out (now you are in line 3 of passage) and like when you hold by the sweets for probable guests that could arrive, expect the relief of the end of the wait but that will bring you new elements to manage.
Only then will the challenge begin.
61 with those pigs and fish makes me think that you will have someone to convince but you will succeed because the arguments are self-evident.
Fill your pantry. 3 guests are not even few.

Good luck!
F.

my_key · Oct 29, 2019

becalm said:
Naturally even though it felt right to come here I’m faced with more challenges and am very very stuck.
What is the best way to deal with my present challenges Hex 5.3.6>61

Hi Becalm
It looks like although you have moved you have brought with you much of your anguish and pain and this is keeping you bogged down

Hex 5 asks you not just to wait but to use the time to address matters, that you feel are keeping you stuck in some small way, For example, enjoy life as best you can. Relax and nourish those parts of you that need fortifying. Be gentle on yourself and apply as much self care as you can. You will need that regenerated vigour, however small, to help pull yourself out of the bog.

The things happening around you need to be seen for what they are and not magnified. Thinking the worst of a situation can undermine your ability to free yourself from what is holding you trapped. Carrying on as you have been is potentially only going to lead to a continuation of the downward spiral. Reflect on any small things that you can do to help yourself and then do them(3). Introduce small change and make these your life line. While things may not appear to change by doing them they will represent a toe in the door for you. With the door slightly open your 'unannounced visitors' will be able to gain entry more easily (6). The 'visitors' may not be seen by you, initially, as welcome guests, however welcome them with warmth( however you may feel inside about them) and see them with regards to a wider picture. They could well guide you out of the stuckness. Look inside to alter the outside(61)

Remember, also, that the nuclear hexagram for 5 is Hex 38 ( Opposing / Diverging) urging waves of seperating and harmonising, harmonising and seperating to pulse it's way through this challenging situation you find yourself in.

.... of course the words from Yi may mean nothing like this at all

Good Luck

becalm · Oct 29, 2019

Thank you my_key Your words make perfect sense.
I’m going to attempt a relatively gentle exercise class today as my back has finally started to heal (update I couldn’t find the venue ended up in tears of frustration) and I noted belatedly yesterday that my iron levels were very low making everything much more of an effort than it needed to be on top of insomnia so I went and got some iron medicine hoping that helps.
Yes it’s true I’m extremely apprehensive now after repeated workplace issues and other happenings in my life. I’ve become anxious and slightly paranoid which is just awful after all the confidence I gained after doing so much work re my PTSD.

GreenHazel · Oct 29, 2019

becalm, I had iron deficiency too and was feeling extremely anxious! Took a supplement for a month (Gentle Iron) and got back to my normal self again.

warmest wishes to you

becalm · Oct 29, 2019

GreenHazel said:
becalm, I had iron deficiency too and was feeling extremely anxious! Took a supplement for a month (Gentle Iron) and got back to my normal self again.

warmest wishes to you

Thanks Green Hazel It did seem weird how I was feeling tbh.

becalm · Oct 30, 2019

Today for example I decided to ‘get on with it’ organised myself to go to the local pool for an aerobics class and drove around for 15 minutes trying to locate the pool, couldn’t find it nor any signs to indicate which way to go. Next I decided to follow up in person a ‘no response’ to a resume I’d cold canvassed and what do you know the woman in charge who’s always in the office just happens to not be in today!!!

my_key · Oct 30, 2019

Hi Becalm
Taking steps to 'get on with it' is in itself changing your situation, even if the outcomes you were hoping for did not materialise. Well done you !
Seems like a bit more research on parking near the pool is needed and another visit to the office, perhaps pre arranged, is in order.

Good Luck

Liselle · Oct 30, 2019

Trying to think how Inner Truth could interact with Waiting in a way that partly results in a line about getting caught in a bog...

It's easy to think of 61 as a good thing. We ought to have "inner truth," right? Except Hilary sometimes points out 61 can become an echo chamber.

That's probably not a good combination with waiting, especially when your echo chamber right now is understandably full of various sorts of negativity. Sounds like a recipe for being driven mad by your own reverberating thoughts. :hug:

I think line 6 is probably advice on how to deal with this, or a way out of it. It's the 6th line, for one, kind of above and beyond the rest of the reading. No idea what it's saying exactly, though, for instance who or what the "uninvited guests" might be.

becalm · Oct 30, 2019

Thanks Liselle My thoughts are definitely on a ‘loop’ not surprising considering the repeated challenges of the last 10 years and the same circumstances cropping up again and again. Gosh what am I missing!!! Surely all the inner work I’ve done would have moved me out of this homeless/jobless situation which I’m now in again.
No idea Line 6 either- one of those lines in hindsight I guess.

becalm · Oct 30, 2019

my_key said:
Hi Becalm
Taking steps to 'get on with it' is in itself changing your situation, even if the outcomes you were hoping for did not materialise. Well done you !
Seems like a bit more research on parking near the pool is needed and another visit to the office, perhaps pre arranged, is in order.

Good Luck

Probably my_key the town is so small and even though I used google maps I just thought it would be obvious where the pool was but I do wonder why it happened regardless.
Following up on the job was a whim as I was walking past their office....but why wasn’t she there yesterday when she’s apparently always there.

Liselle · Oct 30, 2019

becalm said:
No idea Line 6 either- one of those lines in hindsight I guess.

Maybe. I started wondering since I posted if the two lines could be different ways of handling the echo chamber - one being to get bogged down in it, the other being somehow to try to distance yourself from it (sixth lines can be quite removed, on a mountaintop of sorts). The "uninvited guests" could be your looping, intrusive thoughts. No clue how you'd honor them, however. Maybe you'll have some ideas (I say, hopefully...)

Then again line 6 could be about actual external things that haven't happened yet. I don't know.

becalm · Oct 31, 2019

Hmm well I organised two things today. A few weeks of retreat time. Not an actual retreat but a affordable holiday for a fortnight and when that’s over a very affordable share accommodation situation where I may be able to use some of my creativity in helping them redecorate their home. We’ll see on that one but at least today was productive. That’s two people hmmm is there a third coming!!

Liselle · Oct 31, 2019

That all sounds marvelous! Hope it turns out as nicely as it sounds.

becalm · Oct 31, 2019

Liselle said:
That all sounds marvelous! Hope it turns out as nicely as it sounds.

Me too....thanks!!

my_key · Oct 31, 2019

Liselle said:
The "uninvited guests" could be your looping, intrusive thoughts. No clue how you'd honor them, however. Maybe you'll have some ideas (I say, hopefully...)

Honouring doesn't have to be difficult or complicated. In the outer world we do it every day so why would it be any different inside our mind. Honouring intrusive thoughts could be like how you'd act towards any stranger coming into your house. Be accomodating and respectful towards them but don't allow them to rearrange the furniture or paint the walls a different colour. Treat like a friend rather than an enemy. Once you get to know them a bit you can decide whether you want to open the door to them next time they call round.

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becalm · Oct 31, 2019

my_key said:
Honouring doesn't have to be difficult or complicated. In the outer world we do it every day so why would it be any different inside our mind. Honouring intrusive thoughts could be like how you'd act towards any stranger coming into your house. Be accomodating and respectful towards them but don't allow them to rearrange the furniture or paint the walls a different colour. Treat like a friend rather than an enemy. Once you get to know them a bit you can decide whether you want to open the door to them next time they call round.

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Perfect words my_key The thing is this time of things panning out has given me a chance to realise what I really want and what to let go of is that Hex 61? and Waiting things out whilst the transition takes place I guess is what’s going on. I’m not doing nothing but also understand there’s not much I can do to move things along.

my_key · Nov 1, 2019

Hi Becalm
Your view of Hex 61 sounds perfect for you.
It can be about seeing through the things that divert us from our true goals. Being honest with ourselves, following our true dreams, releasing our fears and hurts, healing our wounds ...... all that sort of stuff. Our Inner Truth is reflected in our Outer World........ we see 'demons' on the inside and lo and behold 'demons' turn up on the outside.

I posted this poem by Rumi in Exploring Divination a little while ago. I have a copy next to my PC and it caught my eye as I was typing. It seems appropriate to share here and I'd like to declare it may have influenced my previous post in this thread.

The Guest House by Jalaluddin Rumi

This being human is a guest house.
Every morning a new arrival.

A joy, a depression, a meanness,
some momentary awareness comes
as an unexpected visitor.

Welcome and entertain them all!
Even if they’re a crowd of sorrows,
who violently sweep your house
empty of its furniture,
still, treat each guest honorably.
He may be clearing you out
for some new delight.

The dark thought, the shame, the malice,
meet them at the door laughing,
and invite them in.

Be grateful for whoever comes,
because each has been sent
as a guide from beyond.

Good Luck

rosada · Nov 3, 2019

5.3 Getting bogged down
by
5.6 The three co-workers who uninvited are sharing the space.
61. Need to maintain your own inner truth in this environment.

I see these hexagrams as advising that as the new kid on the block your best bet is to lay low and not try to get too chummy just yet. Do your job and let your real purpose there be revealed over time. Be silent and see who then reaches out to say hello to you.

moss elk · Nov 3, 2019

Hi,

5>61
I wonder if it is a counsel to Wait and reserve passing judgement on them, until you really get to know them deeper.

In the Image of 61, one gets to know the inner truth of someone, delaying the execution.

Line three is like acting helpless.
(when you are not)
Line 6, I think you've got the idea of honoring them.

rosada · Nov 3, 2019

I see 5.3 as warning that one needs to be careful about getting involved with people and situations that are none of your business.:
5.1 Waiting patiently, not quite sure for what or why.
5.2 Boredom starts to kick in, losing focus, bit of gossip with those nearby...
5.3 Auugh, getting sucked into their drama, maybe even getting cast as the heavy and getting blamed for things when it's not your story at all.
So yeah, a person might feel helpless in 5.3 but also I think there's some key advice here that one can stay out of the mud by not wandering into it.

becalm · Nov 4, 2019

my_key said:
Hi Becalm
I posted this poem by Rumi in Exploring Divination a little while ago. I have a copy next to my PC and it caught my eye as I was typing. It seems appropriate to share here and I'd like to declare it may have influenced my previous post in this thread.

Exactly my_key thanks for sharing the poem with me.

becalm · Nov 4, 2019

Thank you to all your responses.....a couple of days ago this is what did happen for me.

becalm said:
Line 6 - something or someone will turn things around unexpectedly for me.
Hex 61 looks like I should stay persistent and confident.

becalm · Nov 8, 2019

rosada said:
I see 5.3 as warning that one needs to be careful about getting involved with people and situations that are none of your business.:
5.1 Waiting patiently, not quite sure for what or why.
5.2 Boredom starts to kick in, losing focus, bit of gossip with those nearby...
5.3 Auugh, getting sucked into their drama, maybe even getting cast as the heavy and getting blamed for things when it's not your story at all.
So yeah, a person might feel helpless in 5.3 but also I think there's some key advice here that one can stay out of the mud by not wandering into it.

Funny all these pre-date readings are describing what happened after meeting this man, especially Line 3.

Love or.....? 13.5>30

I have been seeing this man and everything was going fine (very much a heart connection) and all of a sudden he started to create a drama that led to him to finish the relationship in one split second. I honestly have no idea what happened. He very much wanted me to be part of his life, offering...

www.onlineclarity.co.uk

becalm · Nov 13, 2019

But then again - another 3 people came along. Again I was at a loss what to do and....there was conflict from 1 person, a 2nd person that offered me something very unexpectedly and has helped me out and the 3rd is kind of just part of it really but they're all connected.

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