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andI’m quite sure now that it needs be sold.
If I give up the offer it could be cause of great regret
14 is Great Treasure, something you have. It can mean money, and sometimes specifically money as a means of exchange. But WikiWing reminds me that it can be a more spiritual concept than "just" having money in the bank. (Yi once referred to my cats with 14, and of course they are great treasures )I don't have much of a clue about the resulting hex.
Would you rather not sell? In the other thread you said
and
Is your hesitation more emotional, logistical, or financial, or something else? In other words would selling it be a lot of work you're not capable of doing right now? Is the offer too low? Do you just not want
to sell even though you think you should?
26 to 14 - Great Farming's Great Treasure, the great treasure of greatly taming. Could this be about the proceeds? Would selling put you on a good financial footing? 26 is farming in contrast to hexagram 9, Small Farming. 9's farmer is always worried about the weather because he has no margin for error. 26's farmer is a good deal more secure - he can afford to "not eat at home."
The line is encouraging you to put a hornboard on a young bull:
26.4
'Young bull’s hornboard.
From the source, good fortune.'
This is to tame it. Hilary says in her book that this way the young bull doesn't use its horns, never learns to use them. And also that going to the trouble to tame it means it's worth the effort.
Do you know what the young bull might represent? You mention not being at ease enough to do this. I've never sold property and don't know what's involved.
I suppose if the young bull could be the selling process then putting a hornboard on it could mean delaying it more, but I'm not sure.
14 is Great Treasure, something you have. It can mean money, and sometimes specifically money as a means of exchange. But WikiWing reminds me that it can be a more spiritual concept than "just" having money in the bank. (Yi once referred to my cats with 14, and of course they are great treasures )
Hilary says in WikiWing that not dominating can also be translated as "not beating his drum" in case that might ring a bell.
Also, in a cave up the mountain, safely out of the way of natural disasters, you might
store your written knowledge. Noble one uses this to accumulate/ tame/ restrain/
nurture her own quality of character and personal power. As advice: both learn all you
can from your own past, and read.
Great taming – as distinct from Hexagram 9’s ‘Small Taming’ – is done with an end in
mind. How to make the most of all this potential? What can it serve, or how can it be
useful? Fully engaging here and now – which can mean bringing emotions/ enthusiasm
under control with a longer-term objective in mind. Delaying gratification, in fact.
26 zhi Hexagram 14, Great Taming’s Great Possession is something stored up for the
future. Delayed gratification!
I have spoken to several realtors including a close relative. He in particularly says to well define the sale at my advantage and don’t miss this change. Asking for how to reinvest could a good input too. Thank you.26 advises listening to advice from those with more experience. Do you have a realtor you could talk to? 26.4 certainly sounds like advice to hold off but that could simply mean hold your worries in check by getting advice. You might also ask the I Ching how you should re-invest the money. Having a compelling vision for the future can help you know when and how to release the past.
I know I wish I could make a decision when all lights are green, but I am being rushed here.26 <> 14
Looks like there is still some things that have to be brought together before the time is right for you to sell. You will know deeply when all the lights are green and the time is right to sell, however you find it hard to trust this process and your inner knowing.
... or it might mean nothing like this for you.
Good Luck.
The young bull could another person that owns part of the property and is determined to sell? I have the last word on it but could it be so? I honestly see the bull to be more fitting as the property itself, but in this case waiting for it to grow and develop would mean waiting much longer i.e. letting go of this proposal and wait for a new one when intentions will be more certain? What could be a more specific question to ask in order to see deeper into this? Thank you.Rosada makes good points.
I think what she says about talking to people with more experience comes from the Image (is that right, Rosada?)
'Heaven dwells in the centre of the mountain. Great taming.
The noble one uses the many annals of ancient words and past deeds,
And accumulates her de.'
Hilary (WikiWing) says things like this:
And now that I notice, she comments about "delayed gratification" for both 26's oracle and line 4.
Oracle:
Line 4:
As Rosada points out, it's hard to tell if Yi's referring to the sale itself, or to you. But either way I don't think the reading's saying you need to hurry up and get this done. If you'd gotten 35 (another hexagram with big animals in it), it would mean make the most of the opportunity in front of you, take advantage of what you've been given, don't miss your chance. Even if we can't figure out exactly who/what the young bull is, I think at least we know that much. It's a young bull, not matured yet, not at the peak of its usefulness/ value/ etc. All the farmer in the line is supposed to do with it right now is tame it, train it, not breed it or slaughter it for its meat or anything.
So I asked if now it is good to go forth with the selling process.
@rosada @Liselle there are definitely several part involved in this, at least 5, and I know the aims of maybe a half of the parties involved, so yes there's many energies moving.Thanks for the information about the other owner.
I don't know. There are 2 actors in the line text, the farmer who's doing the taming, and the young bull who's being tamed.
As Rosada says, there are several actors/entities in real life: you, the other owner, the buyer, maybe the decision as a thing itself, maybe the property as a thing itself, maybe general conditions as a thing, and so on.
Not sure what matches up with what. You can control the other owner since you have the final say... could that make you the farmer and the other owner the possibly-overly-energetic young bull? Could something else be controlling both of you?
But oh dear. Since you asked about questions, I went back and re-looked at the one you asked, and now I'm confused.
I'm not sure whether to read that as, "What if I sell?" (what is down that path), in which case Yi's saying "If you sell, you'll be doing 26-to-14 things and taming a valuable young bull" and so forth. Then the challenge is to see how a sale could be that in real life...
...or read it more as, "What about going ahead with this?" That's a more open question, asking for a general comment rather than the outcome. Then the answer could well be about letting it mature.
I think if it were me I might ask the opposite question, what if I don't sell. (Maybe try to avoid wording questions as yes/no, since Yi doesn't have hexagrams that exactly just mean "yes" or "no.")
It does! Taking good care of your cows.What does the property wants me to do? 30.3 —> 21
Which once again involves an animal.
'In the light of the setting sun,the changing line maybe warns about complaining too much for this situation? I have no clue about the resulting hex.
I'd say the same thing about the hexagrams, but I don't think the line is about excuses.What will happen to me I we sell now? 24.5 —> 3
Go on with no excuses (line 5)? As this intention to sale is a turning point for the better that will bring a new start, but not without difficulties at the beginning (resulting 3)?
I think that's exactly right. You'd be in the temple with your family, but when you get this line, Yi's telling you that's shameful. (I can't explain hexagram 1 in the background either.)What will happen to me if we don’t sell now? 13.2 —> 1
Line 2 says about regret for forming union with a relative. Might it be keeping the property with the other owner (a close relative) could be the damaging result of not going on with the sale?
Thank you! Your input is of great help in refining my interpretation of these casts.It does! Taking good care of your cows.
30 changing to 21 - having awareness, becoming clear about something, but then vigorously doing something with it, and quickly. Bite through with power, get to grips with things. You have powerful jaws, use them.
'In the light of the setting sun,
If not beating a pot and singing,
Then you will be making the lament of great old age.
Pitfall.'
I don't think it means not to complain. I think it means if you don't make noise and sing exuberently now, you'll "lament" later (you'll be upset and sad and regret it).
It starts out reminding you the sun is setting. Maybe that's the buyer losing interest, as you've worried he might.
I'd say the same thing about the hexagrams, but I don't think the line is about excuses.
'Great-hearted return.
No regrets.'
Hexagram 3 is about a sprout. Since it's a sprout, it doesn't have any past to regret, which is why it says "no regrets." Great-hearted: Hilary describes this as "generosity of spirit" - since we are people and not sprouts, we do have a past, and might not want to lose it. But 24.5 is not the time for that - it's time to act like a sprout, who's just happy to see where he might want to go next. (I've had at least one reading with this line where I had to have a little courage to do this successfully. It would have been more comfortable in the short run - but not the long run - not to sprout.)
Also, line positions have meaning. This is the 5th line position, the line of the king. One thing that sets kings apart is they have more power of choice than the rest of us often do. I remember in my example I had to actually decide to be great-hearted.
I think that's exactly right. You'd be in the temple with your family, but when you get this line, Yi's telling you that's shameful. (I can't explain hexagram 1 in the background either.)
Hi ExtevanI also asked how the sale would affect a relationship I have with someone I care about, .... I got 50.1 —> 14.
So onto you latest consultation.“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time”.
'In the light of the setting sun,
If not beating a pot and singing,
Then you will be making the lament of great old age.
Pitfall.'
I don't think it means not to complain. I think it means if you don't make noise and sing exuberently now, you'll "lament" later (you'll be upset and sad and regret it).
This is no fault of your own. Forget about it. What really happened is that in a situation of me being at my lowest energy, I have been forced into a decision that required energies well beyond my capabilities. I really couldn't connect with my true self and desire nor could I protect my boundaries.Oh no. I'm sorry this has gone all wrong, and I'm sorry about my part in it.
If I have chance I'll try to look back and see what I misunderstood.
I'm really wary about making any more guesses (and you probably shouldn't listen to them anyway!), but I suppose I'll try if you'll take it with many grains of salt.
54.3 to 34 ... apart from the reading, can you think of bad things that could happen by talking to her? Any ways that could make things worse? Maybe really think about that - if you can imagine ways that talking to her could make things worse, then you don't want to do it unless you know how to avoid or fix the problems.
Guesses about the reading -
"Marrying maiden waiting, Turns it round and marries as second wife."
- it doesn't sound like an absolute disaster, I don't think. Someone without power or influence waits...then makes some sort of marriage. I don't have personal experience with this line that sticks out to me, but I have the impression from reading things that being a secondary wife is a step up from the current position. Not all the way up - not the first wife - but some sort of improvement.
It does start by saying "wait," though. Wait for what, is the next question. Maybe there are clues in 34, Great Vigor.
Wait and see if there's anything that could put you in a stronger position? From what you're saying, it doesn't sound like that's possible, but what is supposed to happen in the next month? Could anything possibly happen that would improve things?
Also wondering if there's any chance that no matter how upset you are now, in the long run you won't be as upset even if the sale does go through? I'm mostly saying that because it's a logical possibility (by which I mean a math-type possibility - one that could be put on a list theoretically).
But I suppose it could be a way of marrying as a second wife, a small but noticeable improvement over how things are now.
8.1 also sounds encouraging (somehow)...
8.1.3 changes to 63, Seeking Union with Commitment. There's a commitment, the sale is underway. You asked what will happen to you if you stop it now.
8 joins the stream and flows along with it willingly. It's not forced joining, like 8's pair 7, The Army. It seems reminiscent of the marrying maiden waiting. Flow along, wait to see what happens and where you go.
8.1 says
"With truth and confidence, seeking union,
No mistake.uatio
With truth and confidence to overflow the vessel
An end comes - further good fortune."
Not a mistake to seek union confidently. Then there's an end (shades of 63?), and further good fortune (shades of marrying as second wife?).
I have no idea, in real life, what the "end" is - whether you actually won't regret selling, or something will happen before the sale is complete, or some other ending. 63 is underway but it does have to watch out for trouble en route.
8.3: "Seeking union with non-people"... what or who are they? The process itself? Doesn't sound promising, maybe unless it could mean you have to act like a non-person in order to join with non-people - match them at their own non-person game or something.
This is wild guessing, and I have no idea how to put the two lines together, nor how to put the two readings together.
I suppose 8.3 could have anticipated you wanting to talk to the buyer. You sound like you hope to convince her person-to-person. 8.3 might mean that won't work (IF Yi was anticipating your next question... sometimes it does, but that's a lot of "ifs").
Well at least we're all basically saying the same thing...As per the readings I really can't make anything of them. I also resorted to a tarot reader and several alternative practitioner to get help with this situation. They all say this is not the end rather a possibility for new openings. Really hard to accept the idea in such a despair mood though.
I am paying attention and there are signs I have no capability of interpreting. Also time is not on my side.Have woken up this morning thinking if it was me with these readings, I might hold tight for now, maybe spend some time thinking through various options but not actually do much. That seems like it could be a way to combine waiting (what seems like the first step in 54.3 to 34) with joining-in with the stream (8 to 63). Pay great attention to everything that goes on, though, and evaluate it for whether it might help you.
The ones that are assisting me are against my decision of going back. So not really assisting. Some professionals say it might be suicide to do so, others are less bleak but quite a lot of loss would be involved in any case.Is there anyone else you could talk to who just has your interests at heart? Do you have a lawyer of your own? Could you tell him/her that you regret selling and ask for advice? Ask if they know of any way the deal could fall apart on its own in the next month, if there are any steps of the process that might yet not go through - and/or what your options are now and what they'd cost you?
The buyer really does sound like "non-person", if by that we mean lack of empathy and a penchant for control and selfishness.I certainly don't know, but I wonder if talking to the the buyer directly would be acting too much like a first wife which you're not supposed to do in 8.3. Seems like she's the principal player in the transaction, and maybe a "non-person" per 8.3. If you have a lawyer of your own, maybe you could ask him/her about it and see what they think.
An update: I talked to buyer who says is not willing to go back with the sale. Legal sues might ensue if I decide to do so. There's little more than a month to the final legal act for the sale, during which I can still decide to stop it all, but with the possible consequences aforementioned: hardship, sues, financial loss and problems with my family involved in this.Well at least we're all basically saying the same thing...
Have woken up this morning thinking if it was me with these readings, I might hold tight for now, maybe spend some time thinking through various options but not actually do much. That seems like it could be a way to combine waiting (what seems like the first step in 54.3 to 34) with joining-in with the stream (8 to 63). Pay great attention to everything that goes on, though, and evaluate it for whether it might help you.
Is there anyone else you could talk to who just has your interests at heart? Do you have a lawyer of your own? Could you tell him/her that you regret selling and ask for advice? Ask if they know of any way the deal could fall apart on its own in the next month, if there are any steps of the process that might yet not go through - and/or what your options are now and what they'd cost you?
Maybe you've already done that, though.
I certainly don't know, but I wonder if talking to the the buyer directly would be acting too much like a first wife which you're not supposed to do in 8.3. Seems like she's the principal player in the transaction, and maybe a "non-person" per 8.3. If you have a lawyer of your own, maybe you could ask him/her about it and see what they think.
I am lost as you are. Maybe another cast with another question could help?So am I lost and confused. All I can think of are
(1) seems increasingly unlikely, but who knows.
- something will yet happen that will work in your favor
- Yi's not answering the question but instead suggesting you be constant to what's already underway, and in the long run selling will turn out to be good for you, no matter how it seems now
- you really ought to stop it
(2) might well be. It seems the most likely to me. Think about 55. The person in 55 was about to wage war, a big, scary, risky undertaking. Naturally he had doubts. 55 is the relating hexagram so most likely reflects how you're feeling, not the objective reality. (That's what relating hexagrams most often do.) And in any event, 55 was a victory and ended with a new and better regime.
(3) just seems fraught with peril, unless someone who knows could explain to you how to do it without being sued and so on, if such a thing even exists.
24.5 was about what happened if selling. What do you think about it? there's mentions of return.Do you have one in mind?
All I could think of is asking what if you let the sale happen, since you've been mostly wondering about stopping it, but turns out you already asked that back in post 12 and got 24.5 to 3.
it was 24.5. So you mean the opportunity of selling should have let go by, renouncing it and keeping the house, just wait for better things to come? In this interpretation it would be every oracle telling me not to sell. And I misunderstood them completely . I am so much in pain for this.Was it 24 line 5 changing to 3, or 24 line 3 changing to 36?
If it's 24.5 to 3 I think it could be affirming in its way, though not without difficulty. Relating hexagram 3 is Sprouting or Difficulty at the Beginning, and that'll be how it feels to you.
"Great-hearted return.
No regrets."
I have an example in WikiWing about how maybe this calls for courage, "heart" in that sense. The example was about letting opportunities pass by me in hopes of better ones. It was nerve-wracking but it worked out well in the end.
That's only one example, though.
And I asked "How could I stop the sale" and 26.4 -> 14 came out!!! It's the original hex and line I had for the first question of this thread in post #1, where I was asking if I it was good to go on with sale. I am really baffled at this coincidence. What could it mean???it was 24.5. So you mean the opportunity of selling should have let go by, renouncing it and keeping the house, just wait for better things to come? In this interpretation it would be every oracle telling me not to sell. And I misunderstood them completely . I am so much in pain for this.
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