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From http://www.worststockmarketcrashes.com/tag/2013-stock-market-crash/

If we run a reading on when is a 2013 market crash, it gives hexagram 29 unchanged.
占事:2013 market crash when
起卦时间:2013年02月24日20时09分
起卦农历:癸巳年正月十五日戌时
神煞:天乙—寅午 福星—巳 日禄—酉 羊刃—申 驿马—亥 桃花—午 华盖—丑
干支:癸巳年 甲寅月 辛酉日 戊戌时
旬空:午未  子丑  子丑  辰巳

六神  伏神    坎宫:坎为水(六冲)hex 29
         【本 卦】
滕蛇       ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟戊子水 世 seller zi water
勾陈       ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼戊戌土 govt, corp – xu earth
朱雀       ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母戊申金 羊刃 news shen metal
青龙       ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财戊午火 应桃花 asset wu fire
玄武       ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼戊辰土 govt chen earth
白虎       ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙戊寅木 天乙 buyer yin wood

Year: si fire (wu fire, wei fire) – fire is asset (wealth)
Month (Feb 4 to March 3): yin wood (zi water, chou earth) – wood is buyer (investors)
Day: you metal (zi water, chou earth) – metal is news that affect the market
Hour: xu earth (chen earth, si fire) – earth is government and stakeholder of shares

Feb: yin wood (buyer)
March; mao wood (buyer)
April; chen earth (company, govt)
May; si fire (asset, wealth)
June; wu fire (asset, wealth) activates line 3 of hexagram 29
July; wei earth (company, govt)
Aug; shen metal (news)
Sept; you metal (news)
Oct; xu earth (company, govt)
Nov; hai water (seller) 驿马—亥, movement
Dec; zi water (seller) – activatives line 6 of hexagram 29
Jan 2014 chou (company, govt)

Hexagram 29 is multiple dangers with line 6 meaning the top yin line loses the way, unfortunate for three years.

Hexagram 29 is equivalent to devil card in Tarot.

The governments: If this devil shows up in the financial area, this can mean that a person is too addicted to spending money. Perhaps the subject should cut down on their spending and attempt to save more. (US situation & Europe).

The average investors: The upright Tarot card meaning of the Devil Tarot card for you today points to taking care to treat any money matters with caution. Do not be greedy and don't be tempted to do things that go against your moral standards.

In the future position, this card is a warning. You are setting up structures in your life that are attracting people who are users, takers and not good for what you hope to accomplish.

Devil Card: This means sellers who takes the money and crashes the market.


When?
Only six line method can predict the possible timing.

It is not the month of yin wood (February) and the month of mao wood (March). Seller is the empty element for these two months.
Watch for May (asset), June (asset), Aug (news), Sept (news), Oct, Nov (seller), Dec (seller) 2012 for market movement.

First round of change is probably June {wu fire (asset, wealth) activates line 3 of hexagram 29}.
If Nov triggers off selling as the second round, then December zi fire (seller) cannot be any good.

Most growth mutual funds have gone up 35% over four years 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012. The issue is whether there will be a market correction in the lower half of 2013. Most Canadian Banks posted a return of 10-12% in the past few months. If the prices cannot go up, then it will come down, possibility up to 8% or more in 2013/2014.

Secrets of a Fatigued Market, Exposed
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/secrets-fatigued-market-exposed-120639034.html

The above news appeared under Yahoo Finance a few hours after my posting of this reading.

*It is a Valuation pullback recommendation. Company cannot dictate the stock price. This means over-value stocks in some sector in US. EU news will come soon on the web*
 
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Long yi thank you for asking this question and providing the analysis of it. I am always trying to protect assets.

The question itself implies that there would be a stock market crash in 2013. Did you originally asked the IChing if there would be stockmarket crash or did you simply ask when the stock market crash would take place in 2013?
 

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While the news of a fiscal disaster is not anything any of us want to hear, you never fail to impress the pants off me! I absolutely love reading your readings. I look at ever detail and pray that I can have the insight you have someday.... but I know that will never happen. Thank you!
 

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Long yi thank you for asking this question and providing the analysis of it. I am always trying to protect assets.

The question itself implies that there would be a stock market crash in 2013. Did you originally asked the IChing if there would be stockmarket crash or did you simply ask when the stock market crash would take place in 2013?
I read on the web that there may be a market crash. I was curious and therefore cast with the question:
If there will be a market crash in 2013, when?

According to stock commentators, some folks speculate the timing from Nov 2013 to April 2014. I got this information after I analyze the hexagram 29.

The governor of the Canadian bank mentioned that it will not be good for the fourth quarter this year (Oct, Nov, Dec 2013).

If we move time frame into five element parameters, it appears like that for Feb 26 2014

神煞:天乙—子申 福星—未 日禄—午 羊刃—巳 驿马—亥 桃花—午 华盖—丑
干支:甲午年 丙寅月 己巳日 甲子时
旬空:辰巳  戌亥  戌亥  戌亥

Year: wu fire (chen earth, si fire)
Month: yin wood (xu earth, hai water)
Day: si fire (xu earth, hai water)
Hour: zi water (xu earth, hai water)

You will notice immediately that xu earth and hai water is the empty element under month, day and hr

If we bring back the original hexagram 29,
六神  伏神    坎宫:坎为水(六冲)hex 29
         【本 卦】
滕蛇       ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟戊子水 世 seller zi water
勾陈       ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼戊戌土 govt, corp – xu earth
朱雀       ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母戊申金 羊刃 news shen metal
青龙       ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财戊午火 应桃花 asset wu fire
玄武       ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼戊辰土 govt chen earth
白虎       ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙戊寅木 天乙 buyer yin wood

Line 5 is xu earth, the stake holder of corporations or government.
If xu earth is the negative element, this means no good earning news or consumer spending news in Feb 2014.

In that Feb 2014, the month is yin wood (same as buyer) and the asset (funds) is wu fire (strong in the year). This fund has a fling with the market. It is a constant source of injection of capital. I suspect it is money used to flip stock prices and get a quick profit.

It is possible that there are key developments in the investment market after a bad January 2014 month. Again the picture is not clear.

Other news from the web
It appears that the expiring expanded FDIC insurance has in fact triggered a massive deposit withdrawal at the nation’s largest banks, as the Fed is reporting that $114 billion were withdrawn from the largest 25 US banks over the first week of January, the largest fund outflow since the 9/11 attacks, even exceeding the pace of the outflow during the 2008 financial panic!

What happens if there is another run on the banks in US next time?

Common sense: All peace on the western front before June 2013. Note: Canadian bank governor will go to become UK bank governor on July 1; to deal with the recession mess on the other side of the ocean.

Year turns after Aug 8 into si fire. 911 happens on the year of si fire. Iran leadership change, China June 4 also happened on the year of si fire.

What happens in the year of si fire 2013? It is the 12 year cycle of si fire. One global news crisis will trigger a downturn in the stock market value that is already very high.

Be on guard. Sell at the proper time. Buy low. Learn from 2008, 2011 crisis. Wait for the recovery and sell.
 
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The current rise of the American Stock Market is absolutely insane. It astonishes me. There can only be two reasons for it. One: at the present time, with interest rates so low, no one has anywhere to invest other than the stock market. Two: The super elite, and megabankers are purposely inflating the stock market until a time that they chose to crash it. This has happened throughout history and is going to happen once again, only this time, the losses will be beyond comparison.

I noticed day before yesterday the stock market lost two hundred sixteen points due to the situation in Italy. The next day everyone was buying again. Does that make any sense? Of course not, the market is being manipulated. The situation in Italy does not change from two days ago to a day ago.

I was expecting a crash in Oct of 2012, and the market did go down 1700 points, but that is minor. People were selling because Congress and the president could not agree on a budget, then they made a temporary agreement and the stocks went back up again. There is still not a permanent agreement. So why does the stock market go back up? It makes no sense at all.

The U.S. is possibly on the verge of a war with Iran, and possibly with China and Russia, yet the market goes up. The deficit rises to infinity yet the market goes up. This really makes no sense at all. Now, here is the stickler. Wouldn't mind if Long Yi did a reading on this. December 2012 was the end of the Mayan calendar. Nobody talks about it any more. Does that mean it just went away? NO! It has been discovered recently that almost every ancient society believed that Dec 2012 was an endtime event. It did not mean end of the world, it meant end of the old age or Piscean Age. The new age is starting, and the changes will come about at first gradually, and later with extreme vigor. It is apparent to me, not just from Biblical study but study of ancient cultures all over the world, that we are now in or soon will be in what the Bible calls "The Great Tribulation." The world's elite bankers and megamoney controllers know this, and are purposely using this time period to create a disaster of unbelievable proportions which will totally destroy the common folk, and put them in complete power. And where do you see the first evidence of this? Look to the Vatican. It was prophesied 10 centuries ago that this coming pope would be the last ever. So far all of the prophecies for each Pope has come true. There is a prophecy in the Jewish Zohar that says Rome will be destroyed in 2013. There is another prophecy that the western powers will betray Israel in the year 2016. Things are going to get interesting to say the least. Do these prophecies have to come true? Of course not, but there is a reasonable chance they will. The stock market crash WILL take place sometime in the next few years. I cannot say when, but I defer to Long Yi's reading on this. I wouldn't mind more readings regarding current events.

Gene
 

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This should be interesting to some of you:

http://dynamicwealthreport.com/rogue-trader-bets-11-million-on-market-meltdown/

What's interesting gene is that Terence McKenna's original "end of the world" date based on the King Wen sequence was Dec 21, 2013, but he changed it to fit the Mayan (and other predictions). But yeah, I agree that a mass consciousness change as predicted would be gradual.

As for this:

The U.S. is possibly on the verge of a war with Iran

Yep, especially when you consider that the First Lady just gave an Oscar to a film about Iran at a time when they're trying to buy magnets for nuclear testing. That looks like Grade A propaganda.
 

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This should be interesting to some of you:

What's interesting gene is that Terence McKenna's original "end of the world" date based on the King Wen sequence was Dec 21, 2013, but he changed it to fit the Mayan (and other predictions). "

Consider the idea that McKenna's premise was contra the IChing philosophy. Even tho he (wrongly) used the IChing to predict the end of days; the 64th hexagram is Before The End. I find it odd that anyone would use the IChing as a doomsday predictor.
 

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Ichingtarot

Not a doomsday predictor but the end of the age predictor. Of course end of ages usually are accompanied by huge and disastrous changes in the planet, it is often disastrous in the passage, but the new age always holds great promise once things have rebalanced themselves.

I tend not to believe all the things that are said about Terrence McKenna. Some say his math is wrong, Others say it is not. Some say he really predicted 2014, others disagree, but whether he was right or wrong, sacred writings all over the world indicate that 2012 is the end of the age.

I am very controversial here, and will probably continue to be, because I have a tremendous amount of knowledge about these things. I am not religious but do tend to believe in the prophecies in the book of Revelations as they jive almost perfectly with Hopi Indian tradition, Egyptian tradition, Mayan and Aztec tradition and Hebrew tradition, as well as many others.

What people don't understand is that there is an elite group of international bankers, of international corporate CEO's, CFO's, etc. that are determined to enslave mankind one way or another, and even now are using genetic engineering to create new creatures who can be slaves to them if they cannot control us. These people will not hesitate to destroy the stock market, or even kill 90% of the population if it suits their end.

Now, maybe this at this point should go to open space or somewhere. as it is getting away from divination, unless someone wants to do a reading on such things.

Gene
 

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There are three types of events
1. past
2. present
3. future

Iching readings can map the past, present, and the future.
This is like a time machine by changing the time (year, month, day and hour) in analyzing the relationship among these four parameters with the casted hexagram, the change hexagram and the nuclear hexagram.

If there is only one change line, one can further decode two additional hexagram, namely the upside down hexagram and the yin & yang line exchange hexagram.

If there is no change line, one can use the timing of the five elements in each line to project the secret movement and initiation of events of each line.

At the next level, one can use the person's birthday (year, month, day, hour) to integrate into the reading to re-analyze usually events in the past.

Year, month, day, hour method comes from Chinese eight letter four pillar method.

At an even more sophiscated level, each person has 12 houses and 113 stars from the birthday star map in the purple star astrology method. These 12 houses can be assigned to the main hexagram, change hexagram and nuclear hexagram lines to build a more complex picture with also timing. This knowledge is considered somewhat lost in the older literature. I am still doing research on it.

By transferring each hexagram to a Tarot card. One can use Western astrology to link up the other star map.

Who has time to learn and do all that?

Concern the present, if this is an immediate event or the near future, one can predict the possible outcome (not concrete outcome) because you destiny is in your own hands. If you want to go from point A to point B, highway 1 is closed. Highway 2 is a bad detour because of traffic jam and Highway 3 is a fast route and a toll road. The choice is up to the person to choose, with or without an Iching reading analysis. Nothing is absolute.

To give one example, I used an Iching reading to predict whether I should order a flight ticket from a certain Airline. The Iching reading predicted unexpected trouble. My family member bought the ticket anyways to return at noon because the ticket was cheaper. It went against my Iching prediction. The next day, the airline cancelled the future flight and assign us to a 6:00 a.m.flight. We called the airline and was given a 6:00 pm flight (my preferred time) without any additional fee. Under normal booking, each ticket costs $100 more. Although one acts against the Iching reading prediction, there is a happy ending because common sense is also important. However, the frustration of being assigned to a 6:00 a.m. flight and waiting to get it resolved can be disrupting to several family members while the matter is being unresolved.

Back to prediction of the US economy, I raised a question whether there will be a US recession in 2013 as a follow-up reading to the stock market events. The reading is hexagram 45. This was done on Feb 25 2013, Initially, I did not want to post the hexagram.

占事:US recession 2013 possibilities
起卦时间:2013年02月25日20时02分
神煞:天乙—卯巳 福星—卯 日禄—亥 羊刃—子 驿马—申 桃花—卯 华盖—戌
干支:癸巳年 甲寅月 壬戌日 庚戌时
旬空:午未  子丑  子丑  寅卯

六神  伏神    兑宫:泽地萃 hexagram 45
         【本 卦】
白虎       ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母丁未土   News wei earth
滕蛇       ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟丁酉金 应 Seller you metal
勾陈       ▅▅▅▅▅ 子孙丁亥水   Investor hai water 日禄 prosperity
朱雀       ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财乙卯木   Assets mao wood 福星天乙 Helper and luck 桃花come & go
青龙       ▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼乙巳火 世 Corporation si fire
玄武       ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母乙未土  News wei earth

I would not analyze the reading here. This reading call for no good news from the US government, but something will be done in July 4 to Aug 3. The other folks involve human greed for money that will sell short and those who will buy to bring back faith in the stock market. There is enough money to fuel the economy.

Gene made a good point: human greed of investment bankers who will do anything to get a double digit return over a short time. We all have to wait and see what may happen in the last two months of 2013 and first two months of 2014. It is a game of good against evil. The middle class and the lower class are by standers powerless to change things.

If one uses good common sense and Iching reading analysis in a careful manner, things are not that bad if your money is under control when market rocks. Regardless of situation, the stock market rocks down and then up once a year normally, sometimes twice a year.

There is no quick way to get rich. An ichign reading may tell you the stock is going down 1-3% on a certain day, but it will not tell you whether it will go down or up in the days ahead. Busines knowledge and doing one's howework on the company is more important in deciding long term investment. Iching reading may maximize your gain so that you place a lower bet on the buy or a high price when you sell the shares.

Doing things with a clear mind (clarity) and acting without greed for personal selfish gain are important if one applies Iching learning to such events.
 

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Given a larger recession is coming. I asked the yi to advise me where else, besides stocks, should I invest my money? The answer: 1.1.2 to 33

The Creative seems to imply thinking outside of the box, but lines 1 says to wait for the right time. Line 2, In the meantime align myself with someone who is active in the field. Then retreat.

Retreat is the hard part. My great grandparents lived thru the Depression. They bought jewelry, hid money in magazines and in their mattress, and bought land. Not sure those options are viable.

Any other interpretations?
 

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Side note on your comment .... LongYi interesting idea to trace the Devil card to 29. Isn't the devil card more about addiction, and compulsion? These are personal internal conditions that offer an opportunity for change. 29 is about external danger that must be faced. What do you think about The Chariot?
 

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Hi, Ichingtarot:

I changed your reading time from UK website posted time to US eastern time to produce the hexagram
14:22:46 Sunday March 3, 2013 in Europe/London converts to
9:22:46 Sunday March 3, 2013 in US/Eastern
起卦时间:2013年03月03日09时33分
起卦农历:癸巳年正月廿二日巳时
神煞:天乙—丑未 福星—申 日禄—巳 羊刃—午 驿马—寅 桃花—酉 华盖—辰
干支:癸巳年 甲寅月 戊辰日 丁巳时
旬空:午未  子丑  戌亥  子丑

六神  伏神    乾宫:乾为天(六冲)     乾宫:天山遯
         【本 卦】           【变 卦】
朱雀       ▅▅▅▅▅ 父母壬戌土 世   ▅▅▅▅▅ 父母壬戌土  
青龙       ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟壬申金     ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟壬申金 应
玄武       ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼壬午火     ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼壬午火  
白虎       ▅▅▅▅▅ 父母甲辰土 应   ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟丙申金  
滕蛇       ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财甲寅木  ○→ ▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼丙午火 世
勾陈       ▅▅▅▅▅ 子孙甲子水  ○→ ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母丙辰土  


Time parameters
Year: si fire (wu fire, wei fire)
Month: yin wood (zi water, chou earth)
Day: chen earth (xu earthm hai water)
Hour: si fire (zi water, chou earth)

Six lines
1.6 parents (news) xu earth (host line); 33.6 parents (news) xu earth
1.5 sibling (seller) shen metal; 33.5 sibling (seller) shen metal
1.4 ghost/officer wu fire; 33.4 ghost/officer wu fire

1.3 parents (news) chen earth(guest line); 33.3 sibling (seller) shen metal
1.2 wealth yin wood change to 33.2 ghost/officer wu fire
1.1 child (buyer) zi water change to 33.1 news (parent) chen earth .

For investments, we look at three issues:
1. Safety of capital and return of capital
2. Capital gain and dividend opportunities
3. Timing to enter and exit.

A. Gain and Loss basic knowledge

Out of the 64 hexagrams, there are 8 six strike hexagrams. Hexagram 1 is one of them. For investment analysis, if the six strike hexagram is the change hexagram, you will have a financial loss no matter what you invest.

In your case, this is the original hexagram. This means you are stepping into a dangerous market with high risk for loss than gain.

B. Where is your money or the money (capital)

Line 1 of 1.1 is your capital and may also be the buyer of the investment (child line zi water). Zi water is the empty element under the month of the reading (yin wood). Yin wood is your asset (cash, money) that you want to invest. Since yin wood is line 2 and also the month of the reading (up to March 3 midnite), you want to invest.

You must make a decision concerning the parents line.

1.6 is parents line xu earth, so is 33.6. 33.1 is chen earth parents line.

Is this the news of the financial market (government, corporation) or your parent’s involvement? For this analysis, we assume that it is the news. Parents have a second meaning, it may mean a document relating to real estate or other fixed asset. Since it is earth, it does not move. This is my guess.

We should not evaluate the change line until all stakeholders is on the stage for the big picture.

C. Brother line (the trouble maker or the partner)

Since you are evaluating the stock or other investment for buy and sell, then you have to be aware that the brother line may mean seller and also partner to your investment. If you buy stocks or mutual funds, the other investors are the partners. The sellers are those who push up the price and sell the shares at high price before it presses it down. For example, Cola-cola (KO) shareholders who sell at >37.50 and buy back at 36.6 recently.

Where is the brother line?
1.5 ren water shen metal, same for 33.5
33.3 bing fire shen metal

Brother is male shen metal. Line 5 is the green dragon and leadership position. What does brother line hold? Metal is probably gold or some type of precious metal. There may be other investments. Shen metal is the 福星—申 luck star. (Please note that many firms project gold price not to rise a lot.)

The shen metal is in conflict with the month. The brother line folks set the shen metal with yin wood (movement month) to become shen metal in the change line. Nothing changes for this group of people. Are they planning to sell gold, disturb currency trading or what?

Watch for 33. 3 brother line bing fire shen metal. Fire suppresses metal. The traditional six line method does not use the branch five element in analysis. Under Long Yi theory that I developed, one should apply the bing fire for the analysis. Fire suppresses metal. No government or large corporation will allow block sellers to disrupt the market at this time (line 33.3) and also in the month of September 2013 (month of shen metal). They occupy the inner door position of hex 33. I will comment on the ren water shen metal line 5 partner and seller later.

D. Where is the water, seed capital for investment in this market? Where is the ghost/officer lines? Ghost is the corporation or government who has control over the situation. For personal matters, if you are female, it will be a he.

In this reading, Ghost (fire) spends the money (wood). The ghost line is 1.4 and 33.4 ren water wu fire, 33.2 bing fire wu fire. For example, the US government can rescue any financial disasters by spending money (your money) and all government can do the same.

Line 4 is ren water wu fire, again the door position. It has to be a fine balance between water and fire. The governing bodies who control the situation has to decide on water (capital) and fire (ghost from asset, release of money ) to restore the stability if there is a crisis.

Line 4 is Murky Warrior (玄武, Xuan-wu). This means this is never a clean fight. There are under the table deals. “Politicans & business leaders” always do that.

E. With all players on the stage, we now analyze your reading.

Line 1.6 is the host line (you) parents xu earth. 33.6 is the same. You do not have confidence in the system because xu earth is the empty element under the day of the reading chen earth.

Chen earth is line 33.1 and also the chen earth of the day of the reading.
Xu earth and chen earth strike each other. Earth mix and do not destroy, but it can bury someone.

Line 1 suggests the funds for investment will be moved into an institution or real estate that you have confidence with (bank, brokerage, bonds etc.), but you do not feel good about it.

Line 2 suggests that you need someone who knows what they are doing to help you. However, the line 33.2 is officer (ghost) line with wu fire. Wu fire is the empty element under the year. This means no trustworthy person exists for handling your funds for safe investment now. It will be at least June before there is any clear direction in the market. Yin wood in 1.2 is the movement star, you want to move the funds now to invest. Not wise at all.

Hexagram 33 means falling prices in the market. It does not take a genius. Each year, ghost (company) release their earning report in March 31 to early April. The market usually starts to slide into June. It also means loss and failure. It is better to stop immediately.

Hexagram 33 is chen metal trigram on the top of ken earth trigram. The use trigram is ken earth and the body hexagram is chen metal. Since the ken earth produces the chen metal, the text teaches

艮卦生體:
有東北方之財。或山田之喜。或因山林田土獲財。或富貴帶土姓人之財。物當安穩。事有終始。
It appears that the resource based industry in the north east may bring profit because this sector is more stable. You have to do more research (metal, oil, energy etc.).

占求財,以體為主,以用為財。用生體財有進益之喜。欲知得財之日,生體之卦氣定之。
If you want to seek profit, the hexagram shows that the gain is possible with the correct investment. Ken is earth. Month of earth is chen earth, fire is si fire and wu fire. Opportunity may reveal itself perhaps in month of wu fire (June), one month ahead of the line 5 folks in disrupting the situation for profit. Do what they do to beat them and by xu earth (3 months), you may see some results.

The answer is perhaps in line 5 (green dragon) with the brother line. There are websites that you can check the future price prediction of currency exchange, gold, oil, other business etc.

One should never buy future contracts, margin, commodities, and any risky investment etc.

If one looks from a different angle, metal (sellers) produces water (child line, buyer with money) for themselves. News (earth) affects how investors (metal, sellers) think. Wood (money) produces fire (how corporation sets its direction with govt set economic policy).

You are the chen earth in line 1.6 and reappears in 33.1. Your final investment decisions depend on the news you hear. The news lock down the corporation direction, govt policy in hexagram 33.
There is no real answer to your inquiry, except “just you wait”.

The parent line is 1.3 and 1.6 in hexagram 1. Upon investments, your parent line is line 33.1 and 33.6. This means the news does not concern you if your money is not inside the system. Upon investing, it is affected by the news (33.1 and 33.6) and all the players in lines 33.2, 33.3, 33.4, 33.5.

There are two sides to the story. Hex 33 means losses. This is done without using timing of events, based on the text of Iching hexagrams. With timing, gain is possible. The analysis above shows that it is possible to make your money and run (retreat). The wise man or woman enters and exits at the appropriate times to protect himself or herself.
 
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@long yi, I'm really interested in your method. I don't know if you've been asked this before and I missed it, but where would you say I should start if I wanted to get a grasp on it? Is there a book or website you'd suggest. Thank you!

@ichingtarot, I don't see how what Terence McKenna did with the I Ching was "contra" to its philosophy. The I Ching is one of the oldest methods, certainly providing many very different perspectives, so to say something is contrary to it you start to run into that slippery slope of dogma. The I Ching is about change, and that's what McKenna's theory is all about. It's not necessarily the end of time he was even predicting, that's why I put it in quotes. It was some sort of novelty shift. Even McKenna didn't have a clear answer for what the event would be.
 

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Hi mryou1

Read this link to know a bit more
http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?t=16339

Unlike the post, I do not use so called Wen-Wang Gua.

In general, the numbering system of hexagram 1-64 comes from Wen-Wang Gua.

Other school will number the same hexagram with a different numerical number.

I have started a website, but I have no time to post and translate the information.

The method I used is as follows:
a. evaluate the position of the six lines (yin Vs yang)
b. evaluate the relationship between line 4-6 trigram and line 1-3 trigram
c. evaluate all six lines assigned character
d. use the classification of the hexagrams into different types.
e. study the five element relationship among the six line characters.

The following are from my own research and development.

e. Use the date of the reading as a time machine to read the future and learn the past
f. assign characters to the date of reading and apply this the prediction of the present events and also the future.
g. Link the Iching to Tarot for further analysis.
h. use the four seasons and five elements strength and weakness relationship to assess the situation.

In step (e) and (f), many Chinese Iching scholar debated my approach of mixing Chinese astrology (4 pillar method) into the analysis. However, it works well for me.

Iching is the teaching of heaven. Many scholars have used them effectively to decode situation in over 60 different languages. My objective is to use six line method in English to show others how Iching can be used to predict events to solve many of the daily problems.

There are many Chinese website and ebooks from the web. I learned Chinese in 2006 to quickly master the information from those text books. When I have time, I will translate the key info and post it on my website.

I did not learn Iching first. I first learn Chinese 4 pillar fortune prediction with the birthday, followed by the purple star method. Later on, I learn English iching, then Chinese Iching, then six line method in 100% Chinese (the difficult part).

This is why I am very interested in creating standards for teaching the six line method properly in English.

Professional fortune tellers do not dare to teach Iching for money because they can be put on the spot for the evaluation of a reading. They may not be able to predict things correctly. In fact, no one can do it for sure.
 

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