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Ginnie... that makes sense about 31, if you read all of gato's posts one would think its about one thing and one thing only
and what did I get
18 unchanging...
according to dr. Freud it is about one thing and one thing only
Did Freud ever cure anybody with Freudian analysis? I really don't know and am asking that question in all sincerity.
Although some still do study Freud in the West, Freudian analysis has, generally speaking, been discarded here as a therapeutic technique. It wasn't found to be effective.
Did Freud ever cure anybody with Freudian analysis? I really don't know and am asking that question in all sincerity.
Trained psychotherapists, while they are aware of Freudian theories, have moved on in many ways. Time passes. The Victorian era passed into the modern world.
mmm, Trojan, as much as I agree with the outline of what you're saying, Freud was not the only one, or the first one in his field . . there were precursors to what he was trying to do, he himself was the student of Charcot (just the first of many results if you google their names) and he worked with a number of people who vastly influenced his writings and have gone by without that much recognition.
I think that what Freud did with promoting a different approach of 'disease' would happen one way or another and Freud happened to be the first who consciously pushed for publicizing and establishing these ideas. Not only that, but he was quite obsessed with getting psychology recognized as a scientific method, and for it -and himself- to gain recognition equal to any other science (maybe that was why he used the -ology ending? To stress the rationality of the method? Just wondering . .)
I don't mean to say that what he did wasn't avant-garde and doesn't carry his signature but I think it also carries the shadows of it too . . just like Jung's work carries Jung's shadows.
Imo both their work have set examples to both follow and avoid . . cause deep down there cannot be a set manual for discovering our own world within. There are signposts and suggestions and the results of those who took their rides and came back to share their findings, but all these need to be taken off their pedestals after a point for each one of us to be able to see things for what they are for us and not just projections of their works . .
edit: ah, cross posted with chingching
Freud did think about one thing and one thing only
. . ok, sorry if I sounded patronizing but I get a reactive reflex when too many praises of Freud are heard . . maybe because I think that deep down he was very much what he was working against and it shows all too heavily in the way he constructed his writings . . but, there you have it, maybe after all, only someone like him could be the one to openly go against Viennese morals . .
I'm lost!reading your other thread 31 under the pillow was a good thing...
Then I went to this area where I could enter the huge lake and went in following a group of people learning how to fish and as soon as I went in I started sinking to the bottom feeling this huge pull all around me, I was in complete panic. And then I felt something pushing me to the top, but this scared the #$%^ out of me as well as I thought it was some kind of monster trying to get me but when I reached the top it was a friendly seal with beautiful eyes, and then the seal told me that if I just flip over onto my back I can float safely on the top and go wherever I want.
such a pleasant dream!
with all this freud talk and learning that trojan has virgo rising my head is spinning out of control.
I'm lost!
However I was reading a lot about hex 29 last night, and what was my dream about, well....
I was on another planet and there was a huge lake and I wanted to go in it but an omnipresent voice told me that if anything went into to the lake it would completely empty because it was newly formed and hadn't a proper base but If I went to another location there was a an area in which I could enter. So on my way there I stopped off in a bedroom that had a three tiered bunk bed which looked out towards earth and was as big as a cliff face, and I had a nap there and watched earth rise in the morning. Then I went to this area where I could enter the huge lake and went in following a group of people learning how to fish and as soon as I went in I started sinking to the bottom feeling this huge pull all around me, I was in complete panic. And then I felt something pushing me to the top, but this scared the #$%^ out of me as well as I thought it was some kind of monster trying to get me but when I reached the top it was a friendly seal with beautiful eyes, and then the seal told me that if I just flip over onto my back I can float safely on the top and go wherever I want.
such a pleasant dream!
SEAL - helps us listen to our inner voice. Using our imagination, creativity. The seal reminds us of our connection to our deep inner rhythms, feelings, and knowing, as represented by the sea. When we fear drowning in these depths, Seal reminds us how to swim. http://www.theearthangelconnection.com/Power Animals.htm
oh no I didn't think you sounded patronising..my virgo rising was just urging me to point the detail Yes i realise his downside, studied him from feminist perspective at college alongside all that complex Lacanian stuff i can't even recall much about know but our teacher was also very good at showing how much impact he had had on things...and I grew to see him sometimes as too often dismissed, or misrepresented. But then theres alot I don't know about him I'm sure
aha, Virgo rising, yes it makes sense . . would it be redundant to say I have Sag rising?? aw well, crabs!! (this reminded me those crab animation clips on youtube but on reverse )
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Sometimes people can need 'curing' from their psychotherapists lol
too true. I guess I have trouble facing the.. how? how? how? Last night I went and saw black swan and it beautifully illustrates a woman bringing both the dark and light aspects of herself together, the swan queen and the black swan. It felt really ... apt I guess... that I went and saw it.
Trojan, I did indeed sleep with hex 18 literally under my pillow, and along with the jumping woman I also dreamt that I was in a crumbling castle at night with cesar milan (the dog whisperer) and he said to me , wait for the eclipse in scorpio, and I said oh that will be in my tenth house, and he said oh you have a scorpio tenth house ! hahaha. Funny thing was I looked up the eclipses this year in the morning and in nov there is an eclipse in sagitarrius, which still happens to be in my tenth house.
Last night I slept with 57 under my pillow and I cant remember the dream at all, which is irregular because I usually have vivid dreams. All I know is that it felt really good and I did not want to wake up from it.
Ginnie, I agree and what you said is also relates cpickard's quote too. And in a way fixing everything, or learning what I was never taught will have to include cleaning out the wasteland of thoughts I have, so i think what trojan said fits in too.
If anyone is interested I asked three more questions about getting past this blockage I suppose:
what can I do to progress with this man:
2 unchanging (um.... nothing, or more positively, just be)
what can I do next time I see him to bring this dynamic between us ( i admit this question is similar to the first one):
2.2.5 > 29
be with my fears with sincerity and modesty. hmmm
Why cant I show that side of my self to him:
2.2.4.6 > 64 (need to take a final step or something, this one confused me, or maybe the i ching was tired of me asking practically the same question)
I any case after all of this I don't know when I'll see him again as he is going on a tour with his band (musicians!!!) and then he going overseas travelling indefinitely... so... I have had positive readings about him but the reality is I don't think anything else will happen but its been good to have the opportunity to work on myself I guess.
My close friends have never understood my taste in men, I definitely like to pick up stray dogs and help them. Mainly they all have self esteem issues, the same as mine, so I suppose like attracts like. I have always struggled with attraction though, at times I find all men attractive and I often think so who am I allowed to be attracted to, supposed to be attracted to? What are the rules? A part of me actually doesn't mind the idea of arranged marriage.... but the rest of me says no.
As an update the nutty musician, who's actual job is in social services... is a no go on the romance front but something is there... maybe its just a heart connection.
Hi chingching,
First let me say, I really enjoy reading your posts. This thread slipped by me until just now.
After I shook it all up and let it settle again onto 22.1.2 > 18, I think Yi is saying you should work on your taste in guys for your own good.
What first caught my attention was your dream's use of the figure of Cesar Milan. Very interesting that he spoke in a language which you found easy to understand, even though I've never heard him mention astrology. But he does speak and hear the language of dogs, which is a more primal kind of language. That may be relevant. Was he pointing out a personality trait, perhaps regarding your attraction to nutty musicians, who are attracted only to women that he can't have? Wondering if there's some self-sabotage in this movie.
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