50. Ting / The Caldron

[maremaria]

Personally, I think that since there is in the judgement the word “correct” , then ultimately the discussion about good/bad moral/immoral is to the point. One makes a correction, a choice if you like , a decision of towards which direction will go .

 

[maremaria]

Rambling….
You asked “Are any of us created with fiber which runs opposite to natural law?”. Don’t have an answer, but from observations, I think that there are times we run opposite to natural law, the river. Intentionally or because of unawareness.

I assume that by “inner fiber” you talk about one’s seal, blueprint or something like that. Yes?

My impression is that there are two different kinds of “right-doing” and “wrong-doing” , good or evil, moral or immoral ….or whatever one can name it, two ways to swim in that river. Follow the flow or go against it. its our way or someone/something else's way.

 

[my_key]

"It's the same in human life; there's in man likewise a fate that lends power to his life. And if he succeeds in assigning the right place to life and to fate, thus bringing the two into harmony, he puts his fate on a firm footing."

Meng - I'd agree this is a difficult concept to get ones head around. In my case years of false trails and dead ends. I'm being distracted and pulled off to one side looking to do what is "right" and "correct" rather than looking to do what is right for me. Doing what is right for me is what provides the harmony that is balancing my life with my destiny.

Maremarie: Try this and see if it helps with your thinking.
My kids used to moan that I was a grumpy old man. I tried to be cheerful for them, but it made me sad putting on the pretence. Now I'm being the best grumpy old man I can be and I'm so happy. In fact I'm so happy being grumpy that my kids now love me for it -they love me in a whole new way. In this small respect I guess i have "succeeded in assigning the right place to life and to fate". I was born to be grumpy so I'm going to celebrate it, and life celebrates it with me.

Take Care

Mike

 

[maremaria]

Meng - I'd agree this is a difficult concept to get ones head around. In my case years of false trails and dead ends. I'm being distracted and pulled off to one side looking to do what is "right" and "correct" rather than looking to do what is right for me. Doing what is right for me is what provides the harmony that is balancing my life with my destiny.

I agree. Not master it yet, but I agree .

In fact I'm so happy being grumpy that my kids now love me for it -they love me in a whole new way. In this small respect I guess i have "succeeded in assigning the right place to life and to fate". I was born to be grumpy so I'm going to celebrate it, and life celebrates it with me.

Sounds good to me !!!

Yes, after all is our choice which ingredients we are going to use and which not and this has to do which we want to be the food we are cooking. To whom we want to be “right” and “correct”.

Maria

 

[meng]

Thanks Mike and Maria for your responses.

As I said, my words regarding this are clumsy, as I believe anyone's words would be, when trying to align a nonlinear truism to our classical linear world. Typically, the best we humans do is to attach a narrow and therefore misappropriate definition to what was not intended to be cemented in such a fixed way - i.e. "morality" . "Fiber" is general and also specific enough to give (me) an idea or image of a form, without being reduced to only the form itself.

Higher purpose, most promising, auspicious expansion - these are words that we might be tempted to reduce to such delineations as my will vs thy will, or my way vs thy way, or my dao vs Dao. This reductionism loses the meaning. I believe it is the cohesive joining of these elements which are cooked in the Cauldron, and it is comparable to the cognitive process, where we join imagination and potentials with classical evidence, and draw a living meaning from it.

 

[Sparhawk]

All this "fiber" talk made me think of the Greek "Moirae". Hmm, three ladies in a room spinning the yarn of one's life, measuring its apportioned length and then cutting it...

"Fiber" is a good metaphor, IMO. Weaving, by extension, is also a good picture. The interaction of warp and weft of life and fate.

Has anyone seen the movie "Wanted"? I rented it last weekend. It is a very good action movie with Angelina Jolie (can't go wrong with action and Angelina in one place... ) I was gladly surprised the theme was around a secret society of weavers. They have a sort of magical loom, called "Fate," that weaves coded instructions in a kind of binary code. The "anomalies" in the weaving are read and decoded, giving the names of people to assassinate in the name of the greater good of humanity. Well, how's that for an ethics discussion...

 

[maremaria]

"Fiber" is a good metaphor, IMO. Weaving, by extension, is also a good picture. The interaction of warp and weft of life and fate.
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Interesting !!! warp yarn as life and weft yarn as fate.

Transformation, choices and Angelina Jolie's movie have something common. Something dies and gives(sustain) life to something else

 

[meng]

Luis, I like the weaving image, interaction of warp and weft of life and fate.

 

[rodaki]

not sure if i've attached this right, but i couldn't resist posting this photo . .

:bows:

rodaki

 

[my_key]

Hi Meng
If you like fibres and weaving.......Try this

Your individual destiny is laid out on a loom. All the incidents in your life, all the dreams, thoughts, fears, are a pattern woven on to the loom. The duration of your life is measured by the vertical thread, held taut by the weights of life-force. The horizontal threads of the loom are the forces to be encountered during the course of your life, rather than days and nights. The pattern woven on to this loom is the pattern of your life, and the pattern is woven by the Three Sisters of Wyrd.’

For more take a look at: http://www.wayofwyrd.com/resource_pc.html

Bibbidi-Bobbidee-Boo

Mike

 

[ravenstar]

Rambling….

I assume that by “inner fiber” you talk about one’s seal, blueprint or something like that. Yes?

Hi maremarie,

I think meng is talking about the etheric body.

We know the electromagnetic field that surrounds the Earth and moves through the entire universe is continually adjusted and affected by our every move, thought, and action. This proves that we are part of an intricate web of energy that flows through the entire cosmos. A vast network of energy, holding everything together like one giant energetic ball comprised of lines of light that pass through and connect us all together in a neverending tapestry of moving energy.

The etheric body (an invisible network of energy) is the transmitter and receiver of the physical body which is an extension of and exact replica of its human form, owning its own nervous system called the meridians/nadis which correspond and parallels the nervous system of the body. It is the unseen mirror of the physical body.

The etheric body is composed entirely of a vast network of energy lines colored with violet or gray forces of light surrounding and interpenetrating the body anchoring itself in the heart, the brain, and spleen of the physical body. Every cell within the human body is permeated and enclosed by this etheric matter.

The slightest vibration awakens and ignites the etheric system. Many believe the etheric IS the spirit, the nerves the soul and the endocrine system the body. Here you have the triunity of balance within the bodily system which when in balance is the conscious aspect of the Creator seeking to connect with all other aspects of life (plant, animal, mineral and man) to create Heaven on Earth.

The nervous system of the body is protected with a covering called myelin sheaths, the etheric system has no protection and is open and vulnerable to all phenomena within and outside the body. The etheric body is the transmitter and receiver of the physical body bringing new ideas to life, continually evolving old ideas into new ones and transporting the mind between the rational and the imaginal. It brings new ideas to life, continually evolving old ideas into new ones and transporting the mind between the material and the spiritual. It ‘hears’ things, ‘knows’ things, and ‘senses’ what should come next. It knows your hopes and wishes for the future. Every lifetime, every feeling good or bad is recorded deep within its memory, layer upon layer into the deepest caverns of the subconscious mind.

Talking of weaving, what of the spider?

When we gift wrap a present and tie it with a ribbon we are taking the lines of force and bringing them together. Visualize and see we have formed a cross with a bow in the center, that resembles the soul’s journey through the elements (the cross) of life. It is the journey of the soul into human life.

I took this same analogy and applied it to the web of a spider upon a branch of a tree. Instead of seeing the web lying flat upon its surface see the threads surrounding and engulfing its foundation. To protect its home from the elements of life the spider would weave and join the opposite sides together in an orderly manner and joining them at different intervals of the branch. These lines of force would travel up the spine or center of the branch but not within it and would create several stages of force and energy that would bind and hold the web and branch together. These centers of force would be tested again and again throughout the various seasons and the spider would have to time and time again make adjustments to these lines of force sychronizing and balancing them to the raging winds, pelting rains, and electrical storms that threaten to tear it from its foundation.

I don't think the soul knows what's good or bad, it does know what's creative and destructive.....these are the laws of the universe. In many ways destructive energies serve the natural process that keep us alive....like bacteria in the intestines.

The human mind is designed to work with creative, energy-rich currents of 'living information'. Destructive information distorts and evenually blocks our perception. Over time it can destroy our neurological circuits. Just like drugs do.

How do we find our own truth? By letting go what no longer serves us. We have to cleanse our etheric body/caldron of things we've become attached to and have dirtied the pot. Some people, for security reasons, hang onto ideals that don't serve them anymore....we could look at this as a drop stitch. Eventually it grows weak and tattered.

Those that have the courage to change and grow find a sense of power from a place of passion within themselves that wants to expressed and they put the right ingredients together to express it...they are the true weavers.

ravenstar

 

[meng]

Mike, I'm sorta skeptical of predetermination theories, but if time can be unwound and wound, then the snow flake was fully formed before it ever fell. Which for all I know, may be true!

Ravenstar, I'm almost speechless from your last post. For me, these inner impressions have no words yet, and writing about them feels like riding a bicycle in complete darkness. But what you've written feels safe to ride on. Very well said, imo.

And I had to think about Maria's question: is this fiber the same as ones seal? I come back to a physical property of fiber, again using our body's linear construction as the mental image. The seal (ie LiSe's hex. 57), sounds quite a lot like the etheric body. That doesn't mean they're not the same as my physical image, though. Just deeper layers of the same complex. Just as when you look at someone you see their clothes, but beneath the clothes is skin, and beneath the skin is the interior complex.

50 is tremendously significant in the way someone is presented to the world. It is meant to be a refined expression of life. The rarified nature of what goes on in the cauldron isn't easy to talk about, being akin to the Eucharist.

 

[frank_r]

This idea of weaving is what the Chinese call Li. There is the concept of Dao and the concept of Li.

The 12th century philosopher Ch'en Shun is writing about Li:

Li can not been seen. It has no form.
It is the law of paterns. Li is the principle of organisation.
Li is the natural en the inevitable law of things and situations.
The meaning of this natural and inevitable law is that things and situations are exactly at its place.

The Indians call it Indra's Net. The Interconnectedness of All Things.
The endless Net of threads that are crossing through space.
http://www.heartspace.org/misc/IndraNet.html

The concept of Dao and Li are different but some people see them as identical. The building stones are the same but they describe a different context.

It is like the difference between the King Wen and the Fu Shi sequence, the first is more towards the concept of Li. The second more towards Dao.

Frank

 

[maremaria]

Ravenstar, really interesting what you say at your post.

Regarding this,

I don't think the soul knows what's good or bad, it does know what's creative and destructive.....these are the laws of the universe. In many ways destructive energies serve the natural process that keep us alive....like bacteria in the intestines.

The human mind is designed to work with creative, energy-rich currents of 'living information'. Destructive information distorts and evenually blocks our perception. Over time it can destroy our neurological circuits. Just like drugs do.

ravenstar

Can you say a little more about destructive energies and how they keep us alive ?

Maria

 

[meng]

Please don't wait for me. I'm not able to get to a computer for a couple of days.
Rosada

"The judgment
THE CAULDRON. Supreme good fortune.
Success.

While THE WELL relates to the social foundation of our life, and this foundation is likened to the water that serves to nourish growing wood, the present hexagram refers to the cultural superstructure of society. Here it's the wood that serves as nourishment for the flame, the spirit. All that's visible must grow beyond itself, extend into the realm of the invisible. Thereby it receives its true consecration and clarity and takes firm root in the cosmic order.

Here we see civilization as it reaches its culmination in religion. The ting serves in offering sacrifice to God. The highest earthly values must be sacrificed to the divine. But the truly divine doesn't manifest itself apart from man. The supreme revelation of God appears in prophets and holy men. To venerate them is true veneration of God. The will of God, as revealed through them, should be accepted in humility; this brings inner enlightenment and true understanding of the world, and this leads to great good fortune and success." ~ W/B

 

[meng]

Ravenstar, really interesting what you say at your post.

Regarding this,


Can you say a little more about destructive energies and how they keep us alive ?

Maria

Here's one example from W/B's 16.5. I very much agree with the concept.

Six in the fifth place means:
Persistently ill, and still doesn't die.

Here enthusiasm is obstructed. A man is under constant pressure, which prevents him from breathing freely. However, this pressure has its advantage - it prevents him from consuming his powers in empty enthusiasm. Thus constant pressure can actually serve to keep one alive.

 

[Sparhawk]

Can you say a little more about destructive energies and how they keep us alive ?

That's more or less the theme of 18... In many ways, what remains from the sacrifices offered in 50 will spoil if not attended properly. Negligence, nonattendance and spoilage, should prompt action and change; if no action is taken, change will occur, nevertheless, but no interaction with it and no say in the outcome.

 

[jilt]

Dear all,

in the old Wilhelm-edition there is some talk about secret teachings. Some think Wilhelm was referring to "the secrets of the Golden Flower". A meditation like that is indeed like cooking, or doing alchymical works in and around your body with spiritual energies.

So, sit down, see to it that your breathing has no obstructions and start to concentrate on your hara, keep on breathing with your belly. Imagine a ball of virmillion energy is developing there. When you have a stabe field of breathing-energy (chi), start to circulate that energy up your spine, over your head, then down your belly, genitals and up again, make it circle around your body. Make it as light. Then, when the flow is steady, imagine a couple making sweet love in the stream of chi. Don't be afraid for all the physical feelings, those are part of this balancing act.
The result of this alchimy with chi, this cooking in the heavenly vessel, is -in the course of time- the birth if a spiritual child.

In my opinion hex 50 is all about sublimation, culture. It gives ways of how to transform very raw and primal energies into something lovingly and very usefull, the things that makes a civelized society, all our combined efforts to make a supportive society.
What we do in a cooking-pot is simply making raw food into something more edible. That proces is used as a metaphor for civilization.
Culturing the land is what farmers do. This term is used as a metaphor for the proces that makes society a good place to live.

 

[maremaria]

Here's one example from W/B's 16.5. I very much agree with the concept.

Six in the fifth place means:
Persistently ill, and still doesn't die.

Here enthusiasm is obstructed. A man is under constant pressure, which prevents him from breathing freely. However, this pressure has its advantage - it prevents him from consuming his powers in empty enthusiasm. Thus constant pressure can actually serve to keep one alive.

That's more or less the theme of 18... In many ways, what remains from the sacrifices offered in 50 will spoil if not attended properly. Negligence, nonattendance and spoilage, should prompt action and change; if no action is taken, change will occur, nevertheless, but no interaction with it and no say in the outcome.

Meng and Luis,
apart from the question I asked , you gave me an answer to another question also.

Thank you.
:bows:

 

[charly]

From: Yi Yin Inventing Decocction
at: http://beijingmuseum.gov.cn/culturehistory/tales/75837.shtml

Charly

 

[fkegan]

Whatever else it is, the Ting's about inner transformation, that inner cooking that yields alchemical transformation. It's about making yourself the vessel of that transformation. There's another aspect of 50 that I've never really grasped though, and I think Frank knows about it.

Hi Dobro,
The Ting was never a cooking vessel it was used as a ceremonial serving dish for ritual food presented at table. Alchemical transformation has to do with traditional smelting techniques where lead was smelted then burned in a cuppel dish to release the dissolved gold and silver. The alchemist worked to increase the yield of precious metal by careful assay techniques though they dreamed of finding the theoretical smelting flux or philosopher's (theoretical) [lime]stone that would manage to convert all the lead into gold.

In the perspective of hexagram sets of ten, hexagram 50 would be the final completion of the set beginning with 41 Sacrifice or

The altar of spiritual ritual and the process of altering what is felt to bring current situation into harmony with the timing and the spirit. Here is the 10th hexagram of the set of human spirituality, the final reservoir of this cycle. The active process has been gathered up into its stable and homely forms. Spirit reduced to the regular slots in normal homely life.

Frank

 

[dobro p]

Yes, I understand that. But the food that goes into the ting and which is presented in it *has* the nature of alchemical transformation. What's offered is the outcome of an alchemical transformation. That's how I see it, anyway. But to put the emphasis on the offering, the sacrifice, is the bit I wanted you to talk about. How do you see the difference, then, between 41 and 50?

 

[charly]

... Then, when the flow is steady, imagine a couple making sweet love in the stream of chi. Don't be afraid for all the physical feelings, those are part of this balancing act...
In my opinion hex 50 is all about sublimation, culture. It gives ways of how to transform very raw and primal energies into something lovingly and very usefull... What we do in a cooking-pot is simply making raw food into something more edible. That proces is used as a metaphor for civilization...

Hi, Bert:

Nice to have news of you.

I know that people use to make love in all sort of places, but in the POT, I never suspect it!

There are old cultural connections among making love cooking and eating. (1)

The Voyeurist Pot: Dings use to have EYES, even more, some dings have FACES looking at us. Maybe the Ding is looking how we behave in every kind of action we undertake. (2)

From: http://www.chinaknowledge.de/Art/Bronze/bronze.html
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Not only an man-made artifact but a magic tool, remember the posts of Janice, a mirror for our own consciousness.

He decrets our luck, we looking at him can handle our destiny, if well behaving of course. Like the magic mirror of the story, always says the truth.

Now I understand why appears a concubine in 50.1, there is a parallellism betweent the Ding bottom up and the position of the concubine (3). One thing is certain, nothing abut cleaning the dishes!

利 li4: profitable
出 chu1: to throw out / to expel / to issue / to to produce / to exit
否 fou3: not / to negate / to deny / pi3: bad / evil .

否 maybe depicts a plant in a pot, issuing sprouts:

From: http://www.chineseetymology.org/Cha...aspx?characterInput=否&submitButton1=Etymology​

We have two alternatives:

• PROFITABLE FOR ISSUING SPROUTS
• PROFITABLE FOR EXPELLING EVIL

... both related with the sexual image.

The first fits better with the concubine's children. The second related with strong believes of magic results that would have sexual activity on male helth.

... and NO BAD.

Another possibility: the overturned ding, the concubine giving heirs depicted how time changes as consequence of the REVOLT → a change of dynasty. The old (evil ?) dynasty expelled, new heirs without known ancestors, all the world feet up, no omelet without breaking eggs. An opportunity of better life.

鼎: H.50 The Pot
革: H.49 The Revolt
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鼎革 change of dynasty (4)​

Best regards,

Charly

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(1) cooking is a kind of alchemy and alchemy has much to do with «fornication».

(2) making love included: in ancient chinese and japanese prints there is always somebody looking when a couple makes love.

(3) I'm not sure if social position or bed position.

(4) from: Lin Yutang Dictionary at: http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/cgi-bin/agrep-lindict?query=%b9%a9&category=wholerecord

 

[ravenstar]

Ravenstar, I'm almost speechless from your last post. For me, these inner impressions have no words yet, and writing about them feels like riding a bicycle in complete darkness. But what you've written feels safe to ride on. Very well said, imo.

Thanks meng :bows: your posts are very thought provoking and spot on! I've learned a great deal from you all!

maremaria Can you say a little more about destructive energies and how they keep us alive ?

Hi Maria,

I’m not sure if I can answer this question. But I'll give it a go. Destructive energies have their place in every part of the physical body. Digestive juices breakdown (destroy) the food we eat for the purpose of withdrawing nutrients to fuel our bodies and keep us healthy.

Cells are continually breaking down in our bodies for the purpose of creating a new form. Who you are today, isn’t who you will be tomorrow. Every 6 weeks we make a new liver, every 5 days our body creates a new stomach lining. We form new skin once a month, our skeleton renews itself every 3 months. Your DNA holds the memory of billions of years and all that happened to you 6 weeks ago. We are constantly undergoing change.

Homeopathic medicines are considered poisons to our physical system. Given in minute amounts, they trigger the immune system to fight and destroy illness, pain, stress and suffering.

From this website http://news.softpedia.com/news/What-is-Homeopathy-51454.shtml

Homeopathy is based on the principle emitted by Hippocrates (460-337 BC), a Greek physician that said the disease can be treated not just with antidotes but also with toxic compounds which would produce, in a healthy person, effects similar to those wanted to be driven off.

Many important drugs come from plants....Pencillin comes from mold, cortisone from yams, Atropine a drug for stomach ulcers from the belladonna plant, also known as 'deadly nighshade', codeine from opium.....nature contains a lot of novel and unusual molecules that the alchemist hasn't even discovered yet.

I find there are three conundrums Destruction, Death and Meaning (kind of like a rebirth), that demand so much of our attention! They make us swim through one emotion after another, rage, fear, revenge, sadness…..threatening to destroy us. But they don’t (in most cases), they do the opposite. Like the digestive juices that breakdown our food for the purpose of withdrawing nutrients, we go through a destruction, that forces us to enter a vast landscape, a desert, a place where we surrender and let something larger than ourselves enter our lives. The destruction then seems to take us on a journey of increase to find meaning in our lives. Although at the time it seems to shatter the sense of who we are. Why? Maybe because our soul wants to go down another road but we wouldn't listen to the signs. The destruction forces us to stop going wherever we thought we were going and turn in another direction.

Natural Selection is a form of destruction and seems to suggest that life forms may literally direct their own evolution through mutation.

Hope this helped to answer your question.

ravenstar

 

[heylise]

... we go through a destruction, that forces us to enter a vast landscape, a desert, a place where we surrender and let something larger than ourselves enter our lives. The destruction then seems to take us on a journey of increase to find meaning in our lives. Although at the time it seems to shatter the sense of who we are. Why? Maybe because our soul wants to go down another road but we wouldn't listen to the signs. The destruction forces us to stop going wherever we thought we were going and turn in another direction.
...
ravenstar

This is beautiful!! Could it apply to 41-42? I am always a bit puzzled about 41. It's name is probably a picture of an empty container, maybe another simpler cauldron than the one of 50. Picture of 42 again a vase but one which overflows or sends clouds of steam up. A full one.

Really loved both your posts.

LiSe

 

[maremaria]

Hope this helped to answer your question.

ravenstar

Yes Ravenstar, you did !!! And in a lovely language . Recently , I came across to those destructive forces which at the same time seemed to be constructive. I can relate to what you say, especially to the part LiSe already quoted.

thank you

Maria

 

[rosada]

COMMENTARY ON THE DECISION

THE CALDRON is the image of an object. When one causes wood to penetrate fire, food is cooked. The holy man cooks in order to sacrifice to God the Lord, and he cooks feasts in order to nourish the holy and the worthy.
Through gentleness the ear and eye become sharp and clear. The yielding advances and goes upward. It attains the middle and finds correspondence in the firm; hence there is supreme success.

The whole hexagram, with its sequence of divided and undivided lines, is the image of a TING, from the legs below to the handle rings at the top. The trigram Sun below means wood and penetration; Li above means fire. Thus wood is put into fire, and the fire is kept up for the preparation of the meal. Strictly speaking, food is of course not cooked in the TING but is served in it after being cooked in the kitchen; nevertheless, the symbol of the TING carries also the idea of the preparation of food. The TING is a ceremonial vessel reserved for use in sacrifices and banquets, and herein lies the contrast between this hexagram and Ching, THE WELL (48), which connotes nourishment of the people. In a sacrifice to God only one animal is needed, because it is not the gift but the sentiment that counts. For the entertainment of the guests abundant food and great lavishness are needed. The uper trigram Li is eye, and the fifth line stands for the ears of the TING; thus the image of eye and ear is suggested. The lower trigram Sun is the Gentle, the adaptive. Thereby the eye and ear become sharp and clear (clarity is the attribute of the trigram Li).
The yielding element that moves upward is the ruler of the hexagram in the fifth place; it stands in the relationship of correspondence to the strong assistant, the nine in the second place, hence has success. In ancient China nine TING were the symbol of sovereignty, hence the favorable oracle.
-Wilhelm

 

[ravenstar]

This is beautiful!! Could it apply to 41-42? I am always a bit puzzled about 41. It's name is probably a picture of an empty container, maybe another simpler cauldron than the one of 50. Picture of 42 again a vase but one which overflows or sends clouds of steam up. A full one.

Really loved both your posts.

LiSe

Thank you LiSe, I really LOVE your website on the Yi Jing and its relation to the sabian symbols.

After reading your post, I zipped over to Hexagram 41. I read what was said there and decided to think on your question. Then I watched the 2nd sequel to the Chronicles of Narnia Prince Caspian and think I found an aspect to your answer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Caspian_(film)

In the Chronicles of Narnia, the King's and Queen's (Pevensie children) returned to this land to find it in turmoil. The Narnians (dwarves, minotaurs, centaurs) were wilderer and more unruly in this movie.....(Spirit punished, held down and in the dark?) One of the children (named high king) blazed with a Powerful personality, did not give much thought to his purpose of restoring the land to the Narnians or to examine the implications of his actions. The result, he and the others were met by their own shadows. They were almost defeated and many lives lost.

Feeling important, the King pushed down any nagging feelings of doubt which also made him ignore and lose touch with his spiritual energy. The soldiers (shadow) awakened like a firestorm creating fear, breakdowns and confusion. Confidence and personal integrity were lost closing the channel to the Divine and setting the stage for repeated encounters. The Narnian army grew smaller and smaller, their energy grew weaker and weaker.

Even the Ice Queen made an appearance which appeared to me as the 'ego' wanting to selfishly control and take over.

The first step in regaining their inner resources was to be aware that the dark side is not 'bad'....it is what we hide or push away from our awareness. As the Kings and Queens gained insight to their quest 'for all concerned' their minds became open and the connection to their inner wisdom realized. This increased their connection with divine energy and they began to experience themselves as natural conduits of this energy, revealing blocks as well as answers to their dilemma. Memories of their talents and gifts surfaced and thrusted them out into the battlefield so they could focus on their task with Spirit by their side. Their insight and renewed strength allowed the creative flow of energy to carry them into a world of miracles and synchronicities.

If we look at Hexagram 50, we are letting go, and truly aligning our human spirit with that of divine consciousness. Sacrificing involves faith, love, patience, courage and optimism. And what of prayer? Is it not a conduit to this energy to the universal mind. Does not prayer help to rekindle the embers of the soul's fire?

This hex also talks of the eyes and ears. If you were able to look at the many nerve endings in the body, the most highly concentrated areas are around the eyes and ears. Also the pineal gland is located between the eyes and ears and indicates that what we listen to and have faith in, will manifest in our lives. The solar plexus as well is part of the sympathetic nervous system which is a network of fibres, ganglia and plexuses.

http://innerself.ca/html/behavior-modification/attitudes/consciousness-can-heal-emotions.html

"We can often observe people crossing their arms in front of their stomachs, or bending over slightly in that area, even when they are standing. This posture is an attempt at self-protection because the stomach or solar plexus area is the seat of the emotional body. Via our solar plexus, we unconsciously receive the emotional vibrations of others. Normally, we stretch out the feelers or antennae of our emotional body so as to come into contact with the energies of our surroundings through these delicate threads or fibers, and to exchange energies. However, the vulnerable energy of infants and small children is confronted again and again with negative vibrations, so that these fibers begin to retract at the first sign of emotional negativity. We all know the feeling of nausea, or butterflies in our stomach, when we are about to enter or are in an emotionally oppressive situation. Our sympathetic nervous system is registering fear via the solar plexus ganglion"

I'm sure Frank can enlighten us more on this subject

ravenstar

 

[frank_r]

If we look at Hexagram 50, we are letting go, and truly aligning our human spirit with that of divine consciousness. Sacrificing involves faith, love, patience, courage and optimism. And what of prayer? Is it not a conduit to this energy to the universal mind. Does not prayer help to rekindle the embers of the soul's fire?

This hex also talks of the eyes and ears. If you were able to look at the many nerve endings in the body, the most highly concentrated areas are around the eyes and ears. Also the pineal gland is located between the eyes and ears and indicates that what we listen to and have faith in, will manifest in our lives. The solar plexus as well is part of the sympathetic nervous system which is a network of fibres, ganglia and plexuses.

http://innerself.ca/html/behavior-modification/attitudes/consciousness-can-heal-emotions.html

"We can often observe people crossing their arms in front of their stomachs, or bending over slightly in that area, even when they are standing. This posture is an attempt at self-protection because the stomach or solar plexus area is the seat of the emotional body. Via our solar plexus, we unconsciously receive the emotional vibrations of others. Normally, we stretch out the feelers or antennae of our emotional body so as to come into contact with the energies of our surroundings through these delicate threads or fibers, and to exchange energies. However, the vulnerable energy of infants and small children is confronted again and again with negative vibrations, so that these fibers begin to retract at the first sign of emotional negativity. We all know the feeling of nausea, or butterflies in our stomach, when we are about to enter or are in an emotionally oppressive situation. Our sympathetic nervous system is registering fear via the solar plexus ganglion"

I'm sure Frank can enlighten us more on this subject

ravenstar

Hello Janice,

It is interesting that I'm struggling with the Idea what the stomach is doing in the human body lately. And with this post you give me some new information to understand a little more about this connection. :bows:
50 for me is the searching of our real deep inner emotions. To be and express emotion without fear of rejecting.
What they call in the Taoist alchemy tradition making Gold out of Lead. This gold is made out of Metal. It is the inner line of trigram water. This is the power of senses(through our ears and eyes which are connected with the Heart and kidney our deepest axis ), which we experience in the middle man line of trigram Earth. So this finding of Gold is expressed by trigram water.

And trigram water is the trigram of the stomach if we look to the building blocks of life. Trigram water makes the connection with the centre.Trigram Water and Fire together are the Inner Child. And with this process the 5 elements is set into work.

Frank

 

[maremaria]

Ravenstar and Frank,

Reading your posts makes me think about the significance of the human body. We talk about spirit, soul, and connection with the divine and you enter in that discussion the mundane body, liver, kidneys, heart etc. If I have understood you well, seems that the physical body plays a vital role in that connection. Acts like a medium, receive and transmits information, translates messages. It aligns you more closely with the universe. Paying attention to the reactions of the physical body we can learn more about us.

Those thoughts are quite primitive and not clear in my head so if you see any flaw , please correct me . Is the physical body a well-designed system that send us signals, and assists us , like road-signs, to correct our course towards 50 transformation?

As a reiki and TCM practitioners, I guess that people come to you to heal their body but maybe through this process can come closer to their selves and gain awareness. From your experience, have you see this happens ?

Maria