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My experience of 59:6 is similar. In general, get away (and stay away) from harm.

I've felt notions of death in other hexagrams, but never so far with 59 (of course
that's a highly personal matter). From what i've seen so far, 59 is quite a positive
hexagram, like a fresh wind cleansing a stale atmosphere. And very often i have
found it means 'disperse the thought', even perhaps the question that one asked
should be dissolved.

All the ideas put forth about blood meaning family here sound so significant, family
bonds somehow sound very important at this instance. Either to keep away from,
or to save them as well as oneself, or even to create new ones (which perhaps are
not as bloody-minded as the existing ones?).

The image of wind over water and 'dissolution' also bring to mind a greek method
of dispersing the 'evil eye'. Olive oil is poured into a cup of water, some sort of
prayer said, then if indeed there is something nasty around, the oil disperses.
I'm aware how weird that sounds, one has to witness it to believe it - sometimes
the oil disperses, sometimes it doesn't. Really bizarre and i have no idea how it
works. But for sure it brings 59 to mind as well.
 

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Now that we are talking about this I'm seeing 59.6 as having to do with both dissolving bad blood by consciously avoiding stirring up ill will and also the idea of creating heirs. Perhaps 59.6 describes an opportunity to resolve family feuds, especially so they will not be passed on to future generations.

Any insights as to the meaning of this line changing to hexagram 29? Especially the Fan yao, 29.6?
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Now that we are talking about this I'm seeing 59.6 as having to do with both dissolving bad blood by consciously avoiding stirring up ill will and also the idea of creating heirs. Perhaps 59.6 describes an opportunity to resolve family feuds, especially so they will not be passed on to future generations.

Any insights as to the meaning of this line changing to hexagram 29? Especially the Fan yao, 29.6?
rosada

In 29.6 one has gotten ensnared and caught up in the danger, harm and pain one needed to get away from in 59.6 ?
 

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Wow, here's one possible interpretation:
This morning I see over on Open Space that Willowfox has announced that after three years of posting here she is resigning from onlineclarity, saying that in three years she has gotten only insults and abuse and never "respect".

The fan yao of 59.6 reads

29.6
Bound with cords and ropes,
Shut in between thorn-hedged prison walls:
For three years one does not found the way.
Misfortune.

So doesn't that sound like Willowfox feeling somehow caught up with onlineclarity, yet even after three years feeling she had not "found the way"?
So...


59.6
He dissolves his blood.
Departing, keeping at a distance, going out,
Is without blame.

Sounds like her choice to leave was the right one for her and maybe for us too.

Anyway, I think this is interesting because it means that if this pattern holds true, the fan yao could be helpful in determining the motivation behind the original change line.

rosada
 
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er one thought.. if a man is at the very end of his life do you think he'd really be in the mood for 'scattering his seed' ? ....no need to answer that lol.

Ah, but it deserves an answer... I don't know if men in the UK would be in the mood but in Latin America, well... Have you read Gabriel Garcia Márquez last novel? :rofl:
 

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Ah, but it deserves an answer... I don't know if men in the UK would be in the mood but in Latin America, well... Have you read Gabriel Garcia Márquez last novel? :rofl:

Well funny you should say that because as I wrote those words I thought you would probably be in the mood for scattering your seed at the very end of your life :rofl: and its true old men never seem to lose the interest even if they lose the capacity. I've seen very old men hooked up to all kinds of ventilators and stuff in hospital still checking out the nurses...and they do so seem to enjoy their bath time in hospital judging from the sounds that come from behind the curtains :rofl:

I haven't read any Marquez at all, maybe I should
 

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Frank, thank you for the insights on how the ancient Chinese would have viewed blood. Do you have any thoughts on how that would color the interpretation of this line?
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Hello Rosada,

For me 59 is bringing things to another level. Like the example tha water becomes steam. Things look different as they seem. In this last line this proces is already finished. The last line, the line of the wise is the most obvious everybody knows why things went like this.

This line also has a relation with the third line, that's the line of the kidney. The kidney is connected with our history. The water(blood) that is streaming through our veins. When this line is changing we come into 29 double water. We are facing danger and we can make the connection with our family or blood relations, than we can come to the gate of our own power and liveforce(Mingmen, the middle line of trigram water, the place where all live is starting. the contracted lifeforce in a seed). And then we know why things went this way during this cycle.

Frank
 

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I'm trying to apply what you are saying to a real life circumstance. When you say connecting with the family, getting in touch with one's power, understanding why things went down the way they did, I'm wondering do you mean some sort of life review where you recognize that you inherited certain characteristics from your ancestors so finally it makes sense to you why you made the choices you made? For example you learn that you came from a long line of sailors so now you know why you have always wanted to live by the ocean? Or a person learning they had a great uncle on their mother's side of the family with blue eyes so now they understand where they got their blue eyes from? But I'm not understanding what any of this would have to do with the actual words of the line, "He dissolves his blood." Can you give me an example of what you are referring to here, or perhaps your own translation of the line?
Thanks!
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I'm trying to apply what you are saying to a real life circumstance. When you say connecting with the family, getting in touch with one's power, understanding why things went down the way they did, I'm wondering do you mean some sort of life review where you recognize that you inherited certain characteristics from your ancestors so finally it makes sense to you why you made the choices you made? For example you learn that you came from a long line of sailors so now you know why you have always wanted to live by the ocean? Or a person learning they had a great uncle on their mother's side of the family with blue eyes so now they understand where they got their blue eyes from? But I'm not understanding what any of this would have to do with the actual words of the line, "He dissolves his blood." Can you give me an example of what you are referring to here, or perhaps your own translation of the line?
Thanks!
Rosada

Line 6 "he dissolves his blood" Dispersing his blood" Bringing blood to a higher level. Blood is yin and in this way it stands for the deeper parts of ourselves. With fear belonging to trigram water we go to the most yin part of our being. water(blood) is also the most yin substance there is. Looking to trigram water we see that the middle line is yang. The livegiving force of the seed. If we are not afraid of our own fear than we can come to this most deepest part of our being. The part that we know why we are living.

About the examples you gave. For me the line has more to do with deeper fears, more understanding why you have to do it another way next time. Your fear is learning you how to use your strenght.
Fear is the emotion that is very much connected with your history and also the history of your family and ancestors.
Like my father had once a braintumor, sometimes when I have some pressure in my head or headaches I think that I have the same problem. My fear can bring me into this patron. But facing this fear can give me also information how to avoid patrons that my father had. in this way I disperse the blood, I bring the blood in motion and the blood will not be stagnated in the same erea that my father once had.
Because every form of stagnation is a not in motion bringing of water. Than there is no possibility of renewing oneself.

Frank
 
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Ah! Wonderful. Thank you so much.
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These ideas inspire in me a deeper awareness of what 59 means to me. I say means to me, as I recognize my take may not be what the ancients had in mind. But even so. I think of the world being all interconnected, but how are we connectied? By love or by fear? By fear I am thinking of groups that come together to protect each other from a common enemy, whether that be The Russians or the landord or just a common fearful attitude. Anyway, I think we we are coming to a point as a collective conscoiousness that we no longer want/need to be onnected by fear. We want to release those old connections, but we do not want to lose the person we have been connected with. So I'm seeing 59 as a time when we release our old reasons for being connected - 59.5 Release! _ and find a new reason to connect. Connected by fear before and now a chance to release and be reconnected through love.

These ideas are just at the talking to myself stage. Thanks for considering them.

Frank, so you think there is any connection between your awareness and concern about your head and brain and your mental energy? Your mind is so lively, do you think that is partly because of your unusual awareness of this part of your body?
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These ideas inspire in me a deper awareness of what 59 means to me. I say means to me, as I recognize my take may not be what the ancients had in mind. But even so. Ithink of the world being all interconnected, but how are we connectied? By love or by fear? By fear I am thinking o groups that come together to protect each other from a common enemy, whether that be The Russians or the landord or just a common fearful attitude. Anyway, I think we we are coming to a point as a collective conscoiousness that we no longer want/need to be onnected by fear. We want to release those old connections, but we do not want to lose the person we have been connected with. So I'mm 59 as a time when we release our old reaons for being connected - 59.5 Release! _ and find a new reason to connect. Connected by Fear and now a chance to release and then be reconnected through love.

These ideas are just at the talking to myself stage. Thanks for considering them.


Rosada


Hello Rosada,

I think that there will always be fear the same as joy and love. But fear is not a problem, it is the way that you react on fear. When the only thing is to avoid it you run away from your fear. But you have to face it, you have to feel it. fear is usually not enough or wrong information. It can also be a livesaving emotion.
Thats why that is fear connected with the kidneys and water. When looking to the energy in the body then the heart energy is the first one. The heart is the void emptyness. Everything is possible.
with water, the kidney/bladder there is this situation that everything is clear. All the information that is possible is there. (A strong leader has strong Bladder energy).
Is the heart a empty room than kidney/bladder is the room full with furniture, books etc. With the last situation you can only do the things that you decided in a earlier stage. In this room the choice is limited. With this is fear connected, when we want to do other things in the room you first have to change everything. For me the connection is more with emptiness than with love. It is interesting that In early Chinese phylosophy love is more connected with the liver(gut) and not with the heart.

Frank, so you think there is any connection between your awareness and concern about your head and brain and your mental energy? Your mind is so lively, do you think that is partly because of your unusual awareness of this part of your body?

The brain is connected with the heart and emptiness but also with the kidney -dense -matter.
The brain has a special connection with the most basic energies.
The brain belongs to the so called extra yang organs. it has the name Heng the same as hexagram 32. This is the hexagram that is telling about continiuty.
The head is also the place that is connected with the senses. there are 7 openings in the head and there are also 7 senses. So with the head we humans are connected with the spirits that are having there dwelling place in the heart.
With these senses we are connected with all other living things on this planet.
For instance the eyes that are connected with the heart, which are often called the windows of the soul.
Through the spark in somebody eyes we can see if someone is connected with the TAO.

In the head we can also make a connection with our spiritual self(this is done by the liver/galbladder energy, not the heart). then we can see things from the middle, as a real human being. There we can have real awarness. There we have the possibility to live through our senses, that are dualistic, but connect these two worlds as one. As what is. Here our history(kidneys-yin) and our emptiness(heart-yang) can come together.

Frank
 
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Hey Frank
It's good to read your contributions again on these threads. As always you paint a colourful picture that brings the deeper connections to the surface for so many people.
It's a great gift you have - thank you for sharing.

Mike
 
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A person’s life grows within a capsule.

After birth, the capsule enlarges.

Entering adulthood, the capsule either dissolves or hardens.

Once it hardens, it’s very difficult to dissolve.

Once it dissolves, it can harden again.

It takes continuous release.
 

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