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Hi Pooka,pooka47401 said:Forgive me, I am but an Egg and new to this Community...I have been taught by I-Ching for many years and i thank the I-Ching for that. i have reconciled my view of what the interconnectedness of the Universe is, as a big Rubics Cube...as each thing moves, so does everything else. The Question becomes part of the Dance, and therefore the umbilical cord to the Answer. The Answer is always out there...it is the Right Question that is difficult to find.
bruce_g said:Actually, this saying is incorrect. A bird doesn’t sing because it has a song. Birds sing for many reasons, all life-becoming: to greet each other, to define their territories, to let their parents know they're hungry, to attract a mate, to warn each other of approaching danger and to tell each other about good feeding spots.
autumn said:I asked the I-ching, "Who do we speak to when we divine?"
34 unchanging.
autumn said:I asked the I-ching, "Who do we speak to when we divine?"
34 unchanging.
autumn said:Hi, Bruce. I appreciate your response- that's an insightful description of 34.
It's interesting that you associate 34 with me as an individual, instead of as an answer that flows into the discussion for everyone. I don't know whether it describes my relationship with the oracle, or if it was answered as I intended to ask the question, in a "truth seeking" (assuming this is valid) kind of way. I don't see myself as a "34" kind of person, and I wouldn't have expected this answer for how I see the oracle, either.
bruce_g said:The reason I made that association with you is to consider the possibility that Yi speaks to each one individually, on a subjective level. There’s the mirror concept to consider, even though you phrased the question with “we”.
hmm, maybe the Yi is ‘stone-walling’ you from knowing? Yi seems p r e t t y secretive about that sort of stuff. I always get the impression of 34 as having stubbornly folded arms.
hilary said:By the way, I can't think of 34 without thinking of tree-strength - the kind you become aware of if you lean back against an old tree and look up.
bruce_g said:It’s ain’t tellin’..
martin said:Perhaps different people don't speak to the same X when they consult the Yi?
I just asked who I (instead of we) speak to and the answer was, yes, 34 again. But with line 2 and 4 changing, the second hexagram is 36.
bruce_g said:Who do we speak to when we utilize the oracle?
A: 12, line 1 to 25.
martin said:What I find interesting is that 36 is typically alone (possibly isolated)
autumn said:I asked the I-ching, "Who do we speak to when we divine?"
34 unchanging.
The 'truth' is that ALL of the IC applies to the question - showing the width/depth of meaning we are trying to deal with. EACH hexagra, offers a valid perspective to the question but LOCAL CONTEXT will 'favour' a sorting og the hexagrams into the best-fit/worst-fit orderings - and tossing coins etc does not guarantee the 'best fit' every time. Furthermore the generality, the universality of the question favours the 'all 64' apply equally - get more local and the sequence of hexagrams from best-to-worst is strengthed, biased, by local context.martin said:Perhaps different people don't speak to the same X when they consult the Yi?
I just asked who I (instead of we) speak to and the answer was, yes, 34 again. But with line 2 and 4 changing, the second hexagram is 36.
autumn said:It's also a candle burning in the darkness
heylise said:Darkness is not just a lack of light, it is another way of seeing things. Yi gives this kind of sight, the complementary to daylight.
denis_m said:Perhaps divination points to a far-reaching will, and the continuum of our personal, more narrow will with that.
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