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I always remember doing a casting for one family member, who was a labourer and who got 1UC. I remember thinking that I must have got it all a bit wrong. I couldnt understand. Later that Christmas my friend came who worked for Mensa and we did some puzzles, and this family member had an IQ of 154....it was as if I Ching knew already. I think this has always given me the knowledge that there is always an answer locked in there...
Er, no - I can't imagine that. I suppose it might be easier to be objective with someone else's reading - but a) it also might not and b) I'm not so sure that 'objective' is a great thing to aim for in your own readings. Please write the article when you figure this out - I won't get in your way.Have you considered (or already written) an article on why some people (like me) find it easier to read for others, than for themselves? (If I figure it out, I'll write one.)
my own answers and the one I read for are the same
one day I read for 2 or 3 people and they got the same answer and I got that answer too about something else. Can't recall exact detail but it was like really 'something else is happening here'. I really didn't feel it was the case that answer fitted both their queries and mine too....To be honest I suspect that's Yi's way of showing me something about itself and how I work with it.
Trojina, when that happened, did the same casting that the 2 or 3 people got answer their questions? When people come to a diviner, whether they're paying money for it or not, I'm sure they expect their reading to be their reading, answering their question, and not a message to the diviner.
Okay, exceptions come to mind...if there's some overriding dire emergency Yi has to warn the diviner about (e.g. "your house is going to burn down")...if there's something hugely wrong with the querent ("do not spend one more minute with this person")...etc.
What was also weird is these people had the same name too.
I think one needs to have fairly strong boundaries to do readings in person. I think my boundaries are pretty porous, hence I tend to have found, in the past, my own answers and the one I read for are the same and I do not think this is because the answer applies to both of us.
Yes, that....Almost as if at any one time, there are those who need the energy from that hexagram.
How irritating of 'people'With my own, I'm often anxious about something, or trying to solve a problem, so there's a lot of pressure to get "the answer," and get it soon if not right now. Anxiety clouds the mind, at least mine, and time pressure is not conducive to letting a reading percolate. But I don't know how to get around it. I (we?) can't help our anxiety or time-crirical problems. (I know people say "Well, center yourself! Meditate! Etc.!" Yes well. Better idea in theory than practice, at least for me.)
Probably... At least, I've never noticed doing a reading for someone else that doesn't answer their question. Probably the amount of time we spend on digging into the question helps, too.Also, Yi is capable of changing the subject or answering questions obliquely, which is difficult enough when I'm interpreting my own reading, and I imagine even harder with someone else's (the recognition problem Hilary wrote about, made worse if Yi's on another subject entirely). I wonder - Hilary, do you have a feel for this? - Yi surely knows when we're interpreting for ourselves and when there will be a diviner-client relationship (if the parties know that at time of casting, Yi would too) - is Yi less likely to do this when it knows there will be a third party working on it?
...and no I just don't think the answer applied to both things I think something happened beyond my understanding...and I think Yi was showing me it's not tame or predictable or a servant, there's more there than we might ever think
Yes. Somehow it's important to be a conduit, not a bucket, if you see what I mean.My current rationale on this I am not able to fully explain because it isn't explainable BUT the I Ching has an energy, an energy field. When one asks questions it sets that energy field/your energy field aquiver like lightly touching a spider's web. I think to work with people one to one as Hilary does one probably needs to have the right...oh dear what word can I use...um kind of energy field to do that ? I also think doing one to one as Hilary said can also drain your energy field so if anyone were to do intense one to one readings regularly I think they'd have to make sure they were fully replenished energetically and spiritually in order to stay clear/well/focused.
Trojina, when that happened, did the same casting that the 2 or 3 people got answer their questions? When people come to a diviner, whether they're paying money for it or not, I'm sure they expect their reading to be their reading, answering their question, and not a message to the diviner.
Well Yi doesn't conform to what I or anyone expects does it...it gives what it gives. Anyway how do I know it wasn't the other way around, that my reading was theirs ? All I'm saying is funny stuff happens for me when I do one to one in person readings so I don't do them much. It may not happen to you or anyone else but it does to me. We don't ever control what the Oracle does. I mean if they got the answer one would think the answer must apply to them but then again ...hmm it may be due to this I have mixed feelings about reading for others in a one to one way because of these experiences but this might very well be something individual to me. I'm not hugely drawn to doing one to one readings so maybe it isn't right for me and my experiences show me that.
I cannot possibly account for why Yi does the things it does. You have to, as everyone does, make your own way with your relationship with it
You could try doing more readings when you are not anxious and time is not critical. Broad pure-curiosity readings, even, so there is no pressure at all to get anything from the answer.
I want to ask, 'Are you sure?' but I dare say you are - and, of course, I don't know what happens with you.
In general, though, I don't think it makes sense to say, in effect,
'Yes, I can cast 3 coins 6 times and the completely random hexagram that results will speak to me: that's synchronicity at work. No, I can't find myself randomly connected to someone who needs the same reading I do: that would be too much of a coincidence.'
Also 'yes' to Lisa, though, in a way, because I do think there is a sort of cosmic contract here, an agreement that if I ask clearly, I'll be answered. That bare minimum of expectation is essential to doing any of this at all - I think it's what Yi refers to as fu (as in 61).
Clarity,
Office 17622,
PO Box 6945,
London.
W1A 6US
United Kingdom
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