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I know so funny about the lock, it seemed to work and other volvo forums had people with my same symptom and a nut or latch fell off so I thought I had that too. But everything was connected when he took the panel off, then he said its the lock, I have to push down on it! I said try pushing up, ha ha!
But he did both, it was a struggle and finally, open, but still have to go tomorrow for the installation.

Well $75 was just part, labor will be 40-50, so I have it now, thank goodness, but I was gonna go on a trip with that money with my daughter for July 4, so I don't think I can do that. July 4 th in the usa the ultimate day of summer!
 

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Ha ha! Well it was simple i the sense the rubber on the lock got worn off, but it's a bigger piece than just a washer. Yeah, but the mechanic did zero in on the lock while I was trying to trace the handle mechanism for something that fell off. So soo was awaziingly accurate. And poccasin and you were correct also. It's been all very 46 and 3 but not over yet.
Interesting soo did say worn out not fell off and that's correct.
 
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$75, lucky the help (from 3?) of both the mechanic and kind BMW owner were available. It could have been worse if new.

Lisa, a lock is an integral part of the operation of a door that locks. If the door doesn't open, chances are the lock isn't functioning properly. But even if it wasn't the actual locking mechanism, a locksmith would have some working knowledge of the mechanical parts of a car door, just as the car mechanic had an aptitude to figure out that it was the lock. It's more a matter of whether they want to take the time to diagnose the problem, and in this case, Susan was fortunate that not just one but two heard and heeded a call to help her. I think that is part of the sacrifice. Susan's sacrifice is partly the $75, but I think her belief in following and trusting (17) this mechanic is what compelled him, stoked his will (46) to dig into this puzzle (3) for her. Likely the BMW owner rallied around this spirit of helping Susan also.

I saw a Volvo locking mechanism on one of the linked forums, shuddered to think what a dealer would charge for it. Very fortunate one was located in the junk yard.

Let's hope it goes well tomorrow and that the used part has lots of 46 left in it to last.
 

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Ok, so before I went to appointment today I did a reading on the computer 57.6
Didnt like that, but I went. The guy said he had to leave another guy would do it for75. Well yesterday you said 30-40 no I didn't. Ok, not gonna argue about it. But they tried for 30 minutes and couldn't get the door open. Come back tomorrow I need a tool that's locked up and I don't have the key, tomorrow at 9am. Ok
Went hone had a lot of anxiety and thought 57.6 meant I was being too subservient to him.
Should I go somewhere else? Confusing answer. Look for mechanic on craigslist? No
Call a mechanic Angel who lives 30 minutes away. 19.6
-41. Well that looks good
Yes I can bring car over right now, it was 5:30 pm
It took him 45 minutes to open the door and finally!
So he fixes it and charged me 60 less than the 75 plus he wanted 65 but I only had 60 on me so he was fine.
Well I think if I had gone to him first I wouldn't have found out about the European junk yard to get the part. So I think everything happened as it should.
And I had been to Angel before but last thing I needed was a welder (before this) and he couldn't do it and he's 20 miles away etc, but in the future he is my first choice.
Thanks everyone.
 
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Sorry it was such a hassle, Susan. $130 plus gas I guess isn't too bad. Hopefully this fix holds up.
 

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Thank you. Well I gave the first guy $20 yesterday
But I do think he was a necessary part of the equation .
It was less expensive then a regular garage and a new part though by half. Angel thought the new part looked fine. So I think it will be ok.
It was funny about all the pushing up of it though. Thanks again for the advice.
 

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Fixed! Hooray! Thank you for the update.

I think the readings make more sense now that we know how it ended up (amazing how that happens...:rofl:). This might be a pretty good example of how Yi can help with complicated problems, and also how Yi can address a general situation instead of particular questions.

The hex 46 readings, particularly 46 unchanging, probably were a tip-off that there would be many steps involved, like climbing a long staircase. And Sooo was able to get "lock" out of the "pushing upward" idea!

I know you got 46uc in response to the specific question, "If I got the door open could I fix it on my own?," but Yi might have been skirting that question and saying something like, "Just keep going...". You'd already gotten 28.1.4>5 about fixing it yourself, which I realize you thought was talking about the floor mats in the car (the reading does mention mats, after all), but in Yi's mind 28>5 was about something else, so when you asked again it seems to have sidestepped the question and given you other information.

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Should I go to mechanic f? 3.4-17

3 can mean growing pains, or things that are complicated or chaotic at the beginning (I've had hex 3 myself for things that worked out fine - eventually). 17 can mean "Following." One of Hilary's Key Questions for hex 17 in her book is, "How are things flowing, and how can you move with them?" So it seems 3>17 was a different way of saying to just keep going, one thing after another. 3.4 is favorable for a partnership or alliance, which as Sooo pointed out is exactly what happened - people at that mechanic shop told you what was wrong (that you needed a new lock mechanism), and helped you find the junkyard and the spare part. It's just that the mechanic shop was not the final, complete solution...which, in hindsight, the reading didn't actually say it was :eek:. (I made the mistake of seeing an encouraging reading and jumping to the conclusion that here was The Answer. No, it was just one necessary part of the answer.)

And the 19.6 you got about the mechanic Angel - the reading mentions "great-hearted" and "generous," which he was. Not only in doing the work for a bit less money, and then accepting even a bit less than that when you didn't have the extra $5, but he did the work right away, which is miraculous in itself :D.
 

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I know it really was interesting. I think the 3 and 46 and 5 kept me pretty positive it would work out eventually, but I wasn't certain.
Is there something about 19 that is right away? I thought that it led to 41 he would be less expensive then the other guy.
I think it was fair of me not to go back to the first person because of 57.6 which I think for me is a about being too submissive. After his behavior, it was nice he said he would do it Friday , but then he didnt and I had to come back Again and he didnt have time, I didn't have any reason to believe he would do it this morning. Then he did give me a price and even though I think 75 was a fair enough price he told me something else Friday when I asked for an estimate. I didn't like that he denied that.
57.6 from Jim dekorne website:
Blofeld: Crawling below the bed. [This symbolizes exaggerated submission, servile humility, etc. Apparently, we have been guilty of this fault.] He loses what is required for his traveling expenses -- persistence brings misfortune!

Interesting about losing my traveling expenses. That could mean the extra money I saved is just general gas money or the extra money I saved might go towards my trip after all.

But one of the big keys for me for this was 28-5 was partly, because the yi like dreams is very efficient and can cover multiple problems with one reading, about the calm emotions I needed to proceed.
 

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57.6 - I agree with you about that, after the comedy of errors with them :rolleyes:. I think you prevented them from pushing you around by not going back.

There doesn't seem to be anything in 19.6 specifically about "right away," as far as I can tell, but I think it was part of him being generous and trying to do the best he could for you. The job took a fair amount of time, and he didn't even get started on it until after 5:30 on a Saturday evening. Granted, he got paid, but he didn't try to gouge you.

I hope you can go on your trip!
 

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57.6 from Jim dekorne website:
Blofeld: Crawling below the bed. [This symbolizes exaggerated submission, servile humility, etc. Apparently, we have been guilty of this fault.] He loses what is required for his traveling expenses -- persistence brings misfortune!

Interesting about losing my traveling expenses. That could mean the extra money I saved is just general gas money or the extra money I saved might go towards my trip after all.\

I'm not sure what to make of 57.6, other than the overly-subservient, pushing-you-around idea. You saved a little money by having Angel the mechanic fix it, but only $15. So...I'd say it's about your trip only if $15 is the difference between taking the trip or not (which doesn't seem terribly likely to me).

There's a more significant difference between the original estimate from the original mechanic ($30-$40) and what they changed it to the next day ($75). I could more see that being a 'loss of wealth,' but again, you didn't get it fixed for $30 or $40 by anyone; it cost you $60.

What we don't know, though, is what might have happened if you had gone back to the original mechanic. Maybe things would have gotten even more out of control.
 

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Do you think 57.6 points to keeping being submissive and then things get out of control?

I've had it at least once before and I didn't like what happened with it. I think at that time I didn't step back. I think here getting before going there says not to go, in hindsight. But I remembered that other time i got it so now I was like hmm these guys might not come through tomorrow at all. But what was the real info there, cause I think I do have the problem of being whatever 57.6 is saying in terms of trusting too much or not seeing the signs to stop trying with people or situations and for me it would be important to know ok you are not at fault if you drop this with these people, you're not being disloyal.
 

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I don't think there was anything wrong with keeping your original appointment with the mechanic shop...yes, you got 57.6 before you even went, but I think it was just as good to get out when you did. The only thing you lost was some time. But going back again, the next day, would have really been like rooting around under the bed.

Remember, before you got there and they rescinded the estimate, you thought you would get the repair done for $30-$40. The reading was not encouraging, but you didn't know exactly what would go wrong. Then everything went wrong - they lied to you about their original estimate, one of them leaves, the other one somehow doesn't have the key to get the tool he'd need...the whole thing resembled flailing around clumsily under a bed in the dark :rolleyes:. All of which may have been worth putting up with if they would have done the repair for $30, but they weren't doing that either.

This was probably a case where the important thing was just to keep your reading in mind. Then when events unfolded, you'd recognize 57.6 and make the decision to not go back to them, as you sensibly did.

How to distinguish ahead of time between "keep your reading in mind" and "don't go in the first place" is a good question. Maybe it's what you said before - don't be overly submissive, don't let them push you around, recognize when the situation is getting ridiculous and then don't let it. I think the way you handled it is very well in keeping with 57.6.

If you ever want to go back to that shop for other work, and they ask why you never came back the last time, you could say something like, well, it wasn't working out very well when I was there, and someone turned up in the meantime who fixed it that very night. They really can't argue with that logic :D.
 

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Oh gosh, when I put the key in to unlock the door it doesn't unlock.
I should have checked that before I left but I was so relieved I didn't think of it.
I had to get in through the back ( it's a station wagon)
Should I just live with it? 14.4-26 tuck says "don't display your abundant possessions. "
So that would seem no. Well there s the eighth month of 19 I think.
I notice there's a couple little parts we forgot to put back in.
So I called angel and am going there tonight.
 

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Oh dear :(.

I hope it gets fixed properly this time.

Am not really sure what to make of the 19.6 now. Maybe just that having Angel fix it was still the best option available to you?

Hilary does include a caveat in her 19.6 commentary:

"This is generous, genuine nearing: it honors the one it nears, and has no ulterior motives. To draw near in this way might mean letting go of your own desires for a particular outcome right now -- understanding that the ongoing process of growth is more important than anything you get along the way."

If I had to pick between an honest mechanic who might make a mistake, and a dishonest mechanic (one with "ulterior motives") - I'd certainly pick the honest one even if there is a minor glitch or two. Maybe just try to accept the setback with some equanimity, as not really such a big deal in the overall good?

Maybe another possibility entirely - and this may not make the slightest sense in this case - but could the problem be with the key itself, rather than Angel's work?

Am asking because once or twice when I've had spare keys cut, the newly-made spares didn't work in the locks. The key would go in the lock, but wouldn't turn. The cutting was just a hair off, and I had to have them redone. Again, that may not make any sense here. Am hugely clueless about keys and locks.
 

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What does tame the beast mean?

I don't think the key would have anything to do with it. But what do I know at this point?
Well, yes I would chose the honest one over the dishonest one. I wonder if he will charge me? Its not his fault in a way cause he didn't take the panel off.
I like him and everything, its just he's far from me.
 

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Hi Susan :) - am curious what happened when you took the car back to Angel? Or hasn't that happened yet? (Or maybe you're sick of talking about it, lol.)
 

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Well it took him am hour to get the mechanism lined up properly.
He said pay me what you think. Ugh!
So I gave him $30 and he was happy.
So it was $190 but it is fixed! I feel relieved. It's so stressful when something goes wrong with my car cause I never really know what it is and I am at someone else's mercy, so to speak.
But I think I can trust this mechanic, at least and I found a junkyard. I think this chapter is over. Knock on wood.
Thanks for the help.
 

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Well...I am glad for the good parts! And that you can see a bright side to this long saga. Am hoping nothing more goes wrong for a while!

Thanks for updating.
 

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From what Lisa quoted from Hillary's translation for 19

To draw near in this way might mean letting go of your own desires for a particular outcome right now -- understanding that the ongoing process of growth is more important than anything you get along the way."

That was in reference to bringing it back to angel.
I didn't want to have to pay him, but he didnt disassemble the door panel in the first place so I don't think he's entirely to blame for the everything not lining up correctly. I am at fault for not checking to make sure the key worked. But paying him (and I did ask how much to pay him 61.1.5-4 when I asked if I should give him $30) seems like that quote. It may not be what I want to do but there is growth involved in this process. I notice the I Ching is very good at managing ones money. So even though there is another bill of mine unpaid and I don't have money for the trip it's as it should be at this point in time.
 

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Thanks for saying that, sooo.
But I think it's just the way it is.
The I Ching for me teaches oftentimes the westernized way of pushing pushing at life at problems can become problematic. The eastern ( forgive gross generalizations) way to wait and see or to accept negative situations with a more philosophical attitude is "better."
Can't really express everything I mean
But one time here someone posted a story about a Chinese man who tried fishing for eels to feed his family. He was unsuccessful because he used a bait that deterred them. But he loved being out on the water and eventually he became a renowned painter of seaside landscapes.

Then there is the other story someone posted about the man who had a horse show up at his farm. You are lucky said the neighbors, wait and see. His son fell off the horse and broke his leg and could no longer help around the farm. You are unlucky said the neighbors. He said wait and see.
The officials came to the town to enlist the all the young men for war duty. The son did not have to go because of his leg.
Or something like that! I think there is more to the story.
 
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I agree completely with the idea of your comments, Susan. There are other sources, religious and philosophical, which say basically the same thing, i.e. "all things work for good to those who love the Lord and are called according to his purpose," etc. I can see the Bible haters rolling their eyes, but the idea IS the same, dealing with more noble ways of seeing things, especially the "bad" things that happen in our lives. I remind myself to see them as opportunities for illumination, or in one way or another working for my own benefit, and sometimes for others, eventually.

The eel fisherman story, who didn't "pickle" his lines, and they had the odor of death on them, and so instead began drawing fishing boats and became a famous artist, comes from LiSe's Yijing site; hexagram 32. The story is of Anton Heyboer. Being a fisherman, whose has caught many eels, I'm skeptical of the real reason Anton stopped catching eels though. I think his mind went elsewhere, like seeing the beauty around him, and not tending his eel lines, following his bliss instead.

I think the fortune/misfortune story was posted by Bradford.

I like Wilhelm's comment in hex 60 too, about the limitations of loyalty and disinterestedness. A time to invest fully, and a time to be indifferent toward gain or loss. There are several comments in IC about this, as in Wilhelm's 13.5 - "Life leads the thoughtful man on a path of many windings. Now the course is checked, now it runs straight again." Or 11.3 - "No plain not followed by a slope. No going not followed by a return."

Some might say, the noble way isn't the easy way, but I think once one commits to it, it is the easier way, or at least the more peaceful way.
 

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That's such a nice post, sooo. I really like it.
I didn't know the eel story was Lise's relative? Whatever the real reason for him not catching eels, it's okay to take artistic license for the story.

What are you saying about 60, about the limit news of loyalty and disinterest? I don't understand.

As for the bible, whether its true or not it can still be taken as a philosophical work, much like the I Ching.
 
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That's such a nice post, sooo. I really like it.
I didn't know the eel story was Lise's relative? Whatever the real reason for him not catching eels, it's okay to take artistic license for the story.

What are you saying about 60, about the limit news of loyalty and disinterest? I don't understand.

As for the bible, whether its true or not it can still be taken as a philosophical work, much like the I Ching.

It is best if LiSe wishes to address that question, if she finds time. The business side of Anton's art keeps her busy. But this link may shed a little light. However, the site dedicated to Anton is in Dutch. http://www.yijing.nl/index.html

That is one of my favorite Wilhelm comments. The balance of loyalty (being attached and dedicated to a concern) and disinterestedness (being unattached and unmoved by a concern) answers to so many of life's quandaries. It is both the warrior and the sage, depending upon what the moment calls for.

Precisely, it is the metaphor which is implicit or implied, regardless from where it has been written.
 

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