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Coming to Terms With The Reality of Trump. 40.5.6 - 6

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yes Fredda, I was cranky in this thread.
FWIW, yesterday I had a 103F fever and buried my 28 year old cousin who suicided.

That being said, I said nothing untrue and stand by the words.
Please consider that the proper voice and tone one uses when putting children to bed is not the same voice one uses when an arsonist is trying to set your house on fire.
 
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Dear Moss,

I am so sorry for your loss.
I too have had friends and loved ones who died too soon. I have learned that it helps to chant "forgive, forgive, forgive". No need to know if you are the one doing the forgiving or the one asking to be forgiven. My experience has been that by holding the thought/feeling your unconscious will respond and you will recognize this = perhaps by a sense of your cousin's presence.

Best wishes,
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It also seems you have a hair-trigger as far as anyone whom you think might support Trump (or at least not put him down ruthlessly): that they are uncaring, unthinking (perhaps dishonest) racists - or something close to that!

I need to respond to this.
Everyone's bias is weighted by their experience and insight. Here is mine.

I know that there are a few different categories of t. supporters.
Here I will describe some qualities of the handful that I know personally.
The following is completely true, without embellishment:

1-My alcoholic racist uncle Bill, who abused me as a child, used to beat his wife until she left him, and now just abuses his poor little dog. Bill had no schooling past the age of 12 and believes all Muslims are terrorists. He once read in a mens health magazine that he could increase his sexual stamina by doing Kegel exercises.
So, with his usual miscomprehension, he would strongly squeeze his perenium with his fingers. :rolleyes: He did this for 10 years and developed prostate problems from doing it...

2-Bill's sister Victoria, who follows whatever Bill says, unable to form her own opinions about anything. She fell out of tree and hit her head as a child and is as dim as can be.
Her voice makes me think of how mud would sound if it could talk.
Recently she exhibited mental discomfort (anger even!) at the fact that the word "zero" exists, when the perfectly good word "O" also does. She often uses a racial slur against black people, and pronounces the first syllable as "Nay". I held her and comforted her at her grandsons funeral the other day.

3-A wealthy alcoholic financial trader, who I pick up off the floor and carry to his apartment on a semi-regular basis.

4-A wealthy alcoholic Catholic lady who falls down and injures herself frequently and whose church advised her (illegally so, you may look that up) to vote for t.
Sometimes I have to pick her up as well.

5-Another man who had no education past the age of twelve, and is addicted to watching horror/gore fest movies. When at work he stares at carnage and bloodletting on his phone at every opportunity. He is extremely jealous and gets angry when someone has any knowledge he does not possess. I call him "buddy" and using praise, encourage the good in him. (he lights up like a happy child) His wife is a closet nazi, not active in any way, but were the president to condone it... well who knows?

6-The tavern owner who plays in a competitive gaming league, and cheats at every possible opportunity. He posts daily on face book every bit of racist propaganda that he hears from fox news.

Yes, I know it is a small sample,
but there are patterns.
Just some food for thought.
 
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Rosada.

line 5: in bondage (or state of suckiness) you still have some freedom of action.

line 6: have you considered donating your time or money to unseat a man in your state with the first name of Devin?
 
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I need to respond to this. Everyone's bias is weighted by their experience and insight. Here is mine ....
Yes, I get that.

Before I retired, I had co-workers whom where Trump supporters and they were honest, hard-working, non-prejudice (as much as we can be here in the USA) people. And I have also come across Trump supporters - and a few Bernie supporters too - who make my skin crawl.

But I think that how or who any of these people are (especially when they are so varied) is not telling me what the Yi's response is; and if I think it does, then I run the risk of substituing my ideas / preceptions / feelings for what the Yi is saying.

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I think my initial question has been somewhat misunderstood here. I was not so much asking how get along personally with people I am in political disagreement with. I actually don't know any of his supporters (I live in a small town in Northern California where we're all pretty much aging hippies) and I don't think I've indulged in too much random name calling (Have I? Sorry!) What I was asking the I Ching was more along the lines of how does one reconcile one's own ideas like a belief in global warming with those who don't think it's real and continue to pollute? It's not like you can compromise and say okay, I'll drink clean water on Mondays and Fridays and you can pollute it on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I mean, it's not a matter of who is morally superior, it's a matter of how to cope with such an opposite belief system. Anyway, I've now decided 40.5 means "Well if you can't live with it you can always step outside the situation. Demonstrate! Refuse to go along with the system! Set your hair on fire! That will show you really mean it!" Of course that idea is ridiculous - I mean, fat lot of good that would do - but it did make think that perhaps the I Ching is saying, "coming to term's with Trump's reality? Well you do or you don't. All beliefs are real to the one who believes them so it's up to you what you agree to live with."
 

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