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I was looking at different interpretations of this line, and it made me wonder - is it about the act of 'shooting at', or, the act of actually 'shooting' and hitting the target that's the subject of the line? (Sort of the difference between fishing and actually catching fish!) I'll have to ponder this a bit more.I'm wondering about the identity of the hawk up on the high rampart, that needs shooting.
Maybe as an aside; maybe as an important piece of the puzzle for me .... I was just reading an article in the NY Times this morning about Thailand building a huge dam aross the Mekong River. Since the dam has started operating, the river downstream has practically dried up, and there are almost no fish left. It points to a massive change in the environment along one of the world's most productive freshwater fisheries and farming regions.I'm glad - in a way - that Rosada posted this query, since it's one I think about almost every day!
So bottomline I think I Ching is encouraging one ought not be fearful of standing up for one's ideals.
I asked the I Ching how a person like myself ...can come to terms with those who feel he is doing a great job as president?
And I've heard something similar from people on the right when talking about us lefties, e.g you just can't argue with those idiot, socialist liberals! And that contrary thinking - from either side - might be what this reading is pointing to."Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."
ME, I do not disagree with anything you're saying here, and I suspect that if we met over a few beers that we could do some pretty serious trash-talking about these 'idiots'.Yes, but the key distinction to recognize is that the racist idiots at fox 'news' are a dangerous combination of fast talking con men and sophistry artists.
I guess what I'm asking is you re-consider that, and instead focus on the reading.
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No. If it came across as imploring, then I apologize, and know that was not my intention - only that this discussion was starting to make me wonder, 'hmm, I've seen this before and I know where it leads to' (to Open Space la-la land).Did I miss anything in your imploring?
I just barely made it out of college with my BA in environmenal studies.
Not sure what word you were thinking of,The human conscience is a wolf.
... and once again, we're off to the races!lavalamp, I wonder if you can explain why you fail to recognize trumpy for the evil, mafia-wannabe, crook that he is? It would be enlightening to hear what sort of kool-aid you've drunk.
I agree. I am not sure if I'd call it that, but I think we need to be able to hear the responses from the Yi, and not make them our responses. I think it's extremely difficult to do that however - especially with romance and politics!In my view to really hear what the Yi is saying, you have to attain a state of suspended judgement.
I think we need to make a distinction between religious belief and political theater: Modi played to Trumps sociopathic ego, and put on an elaberate show for him, and Trump praised Modi's religous tolerance! However, not everyone in India was namaste-ing Trump! I'd think quite a few of them may not have paid attention, or they were too busy rioting:If all of India can greet Trump saying "Namaste Trump" - shouldn't we be able to as well?
In some make-believe perfect world maybe people might believe that - and treat others accordingly - but that has never been a reality for most people within the Judeo-Christian tradition. If it were, we wouldn't have the blatant racism we do here in the US, and we would have never seen the rise of anti-semitism - both in the middle ages and now - within so-called Christian nations .....In the Judeo Christian tradition, everyone really is no better than anyone else.
3. - In the Judeo Christian tradition, everyone really is no better than anyone else. We are all sinners from God's point of view, all the same and the distinctions we draw between each other trivial in the larger scheme of things.
You keep saying that we should make this reading non-political, but then you keep dragging politics back into it. I mean, what does the 2016 election or Obama's popularity have to do with Rosada's reading? Not much that I can see.If you look at the 2016 castings that were compiled here on who would win ....
.... Better than Obama at the same point, even.
The operative words here are 'I think' .... meaning this is only your interpretation and opinion, and not necessary what the Yi is actually saying. That's fine, and that is likely true for my 'interpretation' as well. But nowhere do I get that Rosada needs to fix her 'moral superiority' - that's not at all what the Yi is saying as far as I can tell.Again, I think that what this reading says is you need to rethink how morally superior you really are.
As I said, it's hard for people - likely including you and I - to be neutral when asking about romance and politics! That said, I do not see that using the Yi requires that we have to put aside our political opinions - or that it's message is that we need to become more 'moral'.But that there is a general lack of self reflection and humility here on this issue - this is pretty self evident.
Thanks for bringing this up. There's a translation discrepancy.40.6 doesn't say that the hunter shot the raptor, only that he shot at it
This 'new' site uses Wilhem's translation, not Harmen's own words - he is still working on his 'translation' (and now actively working on 10.1). But the main point is, I am right and everyone else has it wrong!Harmen's new site:
'The prince shoots at a hawk on a high wall. He kills it. Everything serves to further ....
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