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Hmm thanks for the different perspective Mike.
So could we say this is a gradual integration of the past with the present so that the potential of the future will be able to be seen and felt? Do other people enter our lives because of some unconcious chemical attraction that is connected to our past, our childhood. Are these connections offering an open window for us to look at our past and to see what went wrong....to see into issues, wounds and conflicts so we can make better choices? Are you saying that under the material world we are all joined in an energetic dance?
"we with our lives are like islands in the sea. Like the trees in the forest. The maple and the pine may whisper to each other with their leaves.......But the trees also commingle their roots in the darkest underground, and the islands also hang together through the ocean's bottom. Just so there is a continuum of cosmic consciiousness, against which our individuality builds but accidental fences.....Our normal consciousness is circumscribed for adaptation to our external environment, but the fence is weak in spots and fitful influences from beyond leak in, showing the otherwise unverifiable human connection" William James
ravenstar
The image
On the mountain, a tree:
The image of DEVELOPMENT.
Thus the superior man abides in dignity and virtue,
In order to improve the mores.
The mirrors we attract in our direction give us ample opportunity to test where the different reflections take us. Eventually the superior man cracks enough mirrors to slowly realise how not to crack them and then, and this is the icing on the cake, how to choose the best reflection.
Slowly the marriage begins to make sense. I like meng and LiSe's posts. It's like the marriage isn't just of two opposites but a melding of many points along the different continuums, joined to a super highway each bringing it's own unique ingredient to the party. We make the small step and another truck comes in on the highway giving the marriage more impetus.
Mike
Originally quoted by heylise - If I start from out one single idea, my drive bleeds to death halfway my project. Only when there is this double premisse, it stays alive. Especially when they seem to be incompatible, or at least when it is a challenge of how to unite them. Maybe it is the requirement for giving birth to something new. Which in turn is what makes a project viable and not just another assignment.
I play through two main guitar amps, and each one sounds best with a particular guitar. Once, I asked Yi to describe each one. The big Laney GH50L is a Marshallesque amp, which Yi called 16. The much smaller, less powerful but refined sounding Fender, Yi called 53.
This makes so much sense! The small Fender is fairly new to me, and it combines traditional vacuum tube technology, but with a separate channel for effects and amplifier voices. An extremely versatile and inspiring tool, it enables me to go to different places and explore new voices. It’s a superb practice amp too, enabling me to improve my playing abilities. Truly a 53 amp. Now, the big Laney GH, that is a canon – 16 all the way. I even get all 16 when I turn it on to warm it up! Love the way Yi nailed it so precisely, once again.
Hexagram 53 is also the karmic hexagram for the large intestine. In acupuncture the large intestine is part of the element Metal together with ther Lung. The peristalic movement of the large intestine is something as the inhale and exhale movement of the Lung.
The proces of food transformation is ended in the large intestine, here is the final proces of what becomes you, which you can use, and which you cannot use.
Ros:53.1
... The wild goose gradually draws near the shore.
The young son is in danger.
There is talk. No blame.
I'm with Frank.....Janice and Meng great stories.
Janice - I don't know whether you intended it, but I got a sense that the 3 "journeys" were lines 1,2 and 3. So that by the end of it and you rolled up at your brothers door, the inner change had occured. You were a different person. Do you see it like that at all?{/QUOTE]
Wow! Your right Mike, my spirit (inner change) grew with each journey, although I didn't see the journey(s) as 3 at the time! Thanks for pointing that out and that the journeys included lines 2 and 3 as well. I find it interesting that we can meet thousands of people in our life but only a few create an impact that stays with us forever.
my_key said:Frank - All this Karmic stuff on the Hex 53 ....This is really interesting. Where can i find out some more about this theme relative to the Yi?
I'd like to know this as well Frank?
my_key said:So are we saying here, something like, 52 is some sort of great realisation and that as we step into 53 we feel the new ways starting to manifest themselve within our body and life. The old things and ways we used to behave that used to nourish us have come to an end and now the new nourishents are starting to take over from the old nourishments. (We have changed amps but we are now learning how to get the best out of the new one). We are now breathing in the new energies and breathing out the remnants of the old.We have started out at 53 by being consciously incompetent and have to gradually move up the learning ladder with all the fun, tears, heartaches and joy that that journey envokes.
Ya, I like the way you worded this Mike. I also think we need to look back at the steps we've taken and congratulate ourselves at how far we've come. Not only does this give us strength, it also reveals that the Universe does not work in predictable patterns.
Mike
厲 li4 is not the standard word for DANGER (1), it usually means HARSH, HARSHNESS, CRUEL and also TO ENCOURAGE, TO OPPRESS (Source: Lin Yutang)
The closer possibility to W/B is:
YOUNG SON IN DANGER (or OPPRESSED) HAVE TO SPEAK
Another:
YOUNG SON IS ENCOURAGED TO HAVE THE WORD.
In both cases CHILDREN have something to SAY.
The parallellism with the geese is that they are marching in the DRY they can look clumsy, they are neither flying nor swiming. Children do not masterize the use of speech. Difficult beginings, but children have something to say like geese have somewhere to go.
No blame, not a fault from theirselves but eachother own nature.
H. 53 tells where are going the geese. Does it also tell what have to say the clildren?
Maybe this is another story (2).
Yours,
Charly
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(1)厲 li4 depicts a CONCEALED SCORPION, thus the relation with HIDDEN DANGER, but the scorpion also could mean stimulus, urge, even lust.
(2) Wild geese in chinese poetry evoke WAR and EXIL, both leading to CHILDREN SUFFERING.
From the picture Ravenstar paints it's easy to see the young child in danger scenario because of the big Danger sign( and that must have been a tough childhood for you). Looking at Charly's post and the other interprestations of 厲 li4....... this seems to also paint a more positve slantW/B in capital leters:
鴻 hong2 / wild goose or swan / great / large / [THE] WILD GOOSE
漸 jian4 / imbue / slowly permeate / gradual / gradually / GRADUALLY [DRAWS NEAR]
于 yu2 / at / to / THE
干 gan1 / shore / bank of a river / river side / dry / SHORE
。
小 xiao3 / small / little / young / [THE] YOUNG
子 zi3 / son / child / seed / fruit / SON
厲 li4 / severe / harsh / cruel / [IS IN] DANGER
有 you3 / to have / there is / there are / THERE IS
言 yan2 / to speak / to say / talk / word / TALK
。
無 wu2 / no / not / NO
咎 jiu4 / blame / to blame / mistake / wrong / BLAME
厲 li4 is not the standard word for DANGER (1), it usually means HARSH, HARSHNESS, CRUEL and also TO ENCOURAGE, TO OPPRESS (Source: Lin Yutang)
The closer possibility to W/B is:
YOUNG SON IN DANGER (or OPPRESSED) HAVE TO SPEAK
Another:
YOUNG SON IS ENCOURAGED TO HAVE THE WORD.
Frank - All this Karmic stuff on the Hex 53 ....This is really interesting. Where can i find out some more about this theme relative to the Yi?
Mike
Mike:...
53.1 -
The geese are slowly coming home to roost.
(new magic is coming in)
...
Janice:... As a child, words didn't come easily to me. When I tried to speak up for myself I was either rejected or criticized ... On my road trip, people acutally listened to me. My self confidence was at a low when I started but was 'stimulated' and boosted by the time I got to Montreal...
Hello Mike and Janice,
In the seventies there was this Dutch group, they called themselves the group of 5, Han Boering, Dries Langeveld, Gerben Hellinga, Jaap Voigt and the Yi. They studied for several years and found what they called the Karmic mandala.
Hi Frank,
When you say "found," what do you mean? Did they actually find something similar in Chinese texts or is the mandala something the group came up with?
Do you know them in person? By any chance, is that "Jaap Voigt" involved in ocean shipping?
Cheers,
You can use this karmic idea also in every hexagram. when you are interested I can explain how to do this.
Frank
Originally Posted by frank_r
You can use this karmic idea also in every hexagram. when you are interested I can explain how to do this.
Frank
Can you explain how it works Frank ?
Maria
Janice:
Now you are like the big geese: mistress of your own path. The girl that you were brought you where you are now. She had something to say: STOP CRITICIZING, STOP REJECTING.
I believe that the child of H.53 is saying STOP WAR. BE LIKE THIS GENTLE BIRDS THAT BOTH, FATHER AND MOTHER TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDREN. Why? Because 53.3 says so.
Yours,
Charly
Maria said:Can you explain how it works Frank ?
Maria
Oh yes, I'd like to know too Frank, Please?
ravenstar
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