Hexagram 27

[cssslw]

Hi, Folks:
I've had a lot of dissapointment in getting my heart broken in my adult life. I asked the I Ching what should I do to achieve real happiness and success in my love life. It replied: # 27, no changing lines.
So, what do you think that means, anyway? Thank you.

 

[autumn]

I know this may be somewhat disappointing- (it was for me when I realized that the Yi does this)- but often these kinds of general, philosophical questions are answered with highly consistent results among people. I noticed this when I read an archived post about someone asking what the purpose of their life was and receiving 62.3 (16). The person thought- and you can understand their thinking- how awful. What kind of terrible karma do I have? I thought it was an interesting question and so I asked it and I got 62 with line 3 and 5 changing, and I don't remember, but their may have been another line changing too. So- I interpreted the answer as, "we are all here to have compassion for the unfortunate".

In other words, we aren't special enough to get really interesting, in-depth answers when the questions are, "how can I achieve happiness", because the truth of how to live has already been revealed to everyone in many different ways.

A friend of mine received 27 with one of the lines changing when she asked a very similar question about love and happiness. I think 27 is a general lesson to everyone about love and happiness- and it isn't much of a secret.

Love yourself, and love others.

 

[yly2pg1]

You need a balance of yin and yang for a happy love life.
Yin refers to the emotional part.
Yang refers to the physical part.

In your case, Yi is reflecting an inbalance of Yang part, i.e. your physical body. A good composure is a result of a proper nourished body.

BTW, are you under-weight?

 

[autumn]

It sounds like you could get a lot out of a general reading on your emotional state. Jesed offers readings that look at various aspects of your life as paths, and they can be very illuminating if you are consciously seeking growth and understanding. I value what he's taught me about doing these readings.

Unfortunately, I think Jesed has been eaten by a Chinchete, so you might want to try to PM him.

 

[dobro p]

Hi, Folks:
I've had a lot of dissapointment in getting my heart broken in my adult life. I asked the I Ching what should I do to achieve real happiness and success in my love life. It replied: # 27, no changing lines.
So, what do you think that means, anyway? Thank you.

Hex 27's about nourishment, about getting fed. Getting fed, in the context of your question, is getting love. For me, Hex 27 is one of the most mysterious hexagrams in the Yi. I mean, it's about getting nourished, like I said. But it goes way beyond just filling your belly or your heart or whatever it is that you need. Hex 27 counsels us to *contemplate* our nourishment and become clear about it. It also says that this contemplation of nourishment, through which we thoroughly familiarise ourself with its nature, arises out of a concern for substantial, quality food.

Okay, so in your case, what is substantial, quality love? How do you get it? I suppose it's as true of love as it is of friendship that the best way to get it is to be it. You know - the best way to get friendship is be a good friend. Loving people draw love.

But aside from talking about how you can get love, I'm really interested in the fact that you drew *27* in answer to your question. Don't take that for granted. 27's about nourishment, which means that the Yi is saying that for you, love is like food. Or *is* food. Think about that for a moment. For you, love isn't something that just enhances your existence; it isn't a passing excitement; it isn't a learning experience; it's something you NEED to survive. Okay, ALL of us need love. But for you it's written in great big letters that flash like a neon sign. My guess is that when you get the message you will start making the changes necessary to get your needs met.

 

[cssslw]

Dobro

Hi:
Dobro, would you please elaborate on your interesting point about my drawing of # 27? I asked the I Ching tonight if my exgirfriend would ever come back to me. It replied: # 7, no changing lines. The Army? How would that apply to my situation?
Thank you

 

[dobro p]

Elaborate? Why? What didn't you understand in what I said?

 

[dobro p]

I asked the I Ching tonight if my exgirfriend would ever come back to me. It replied: # 7, no changing lines. The Army? How would that apply to my situation?

Two possibilities.

One: she's going to come back to you with great force; she's gonna knock your socks off, bowl you over, take over your life.

Two: you need to take charge of your life forcefully right now. Cuz you're giving your power away by dwelling on another person. The part of you that's susceptible to her isn't your own best friend; your best friend right now is your personal power.

Take your pick. Which part of your personality wins out? The one that's attached to her, or the one that wants to be strong?

 

[martin]

Hi Cssslw,

I think hexagram 27 often points to an inner emptiness that we try to fill with stimulation from the outside, but that doesn't work.
We stay 'hungry', dissatisfied.

"What should I do to achieve real happiness and success in my love life?"
Perhaps the Yi says with 27: don't focus on your love life now but on that inner emptiness. A partner cannot fill that hole, nothing can.
Feel it and don't try to fill it. Then it will sooner or later be filled from the inside.
And once that starts to happen your approach to relationships, and your experience of them, will be different.

Does that make sense, do you recognize it?

 

[bradford]

Hi Cssslw,I think hexagram 27 often points to an inner emptiness that we try to fill with stimulation from the outside, but that doesn't work.
We stay 'hungry', dissatisfied.
"What should I do to achieve real happiness and success in my love life?"
Perhaps the Yi says with 27: don't focus on your love life now but on that inner emptiness. A partner cannot fill that hole, nothing can.

csslw-
I think Martin's & Dobto's is the interpretation you're looking for.
Attend first to your health and your strength. Keep those up.
Not just for the sake of maintaining attractiveness, but it helps that.
Healthy relationships are between healthy individuals.
That includes mental health and nourishment, and so does 27.

 

[autumn]

I believe that most, if not everything, you need to know about drawing 27 here could be found in a book on co-dependency.

I would be remiss if I did not point out that the judgment of 7 focuses less on the qualities of an dynamic warrior and more on the qualities of a militia troop. In others words, less on active war and more on guard.

It is the quality of the army itself- several men of one mind- uniformity- a reserve strength to draw upon- that is being communicated. The leader is not questioned. Sameness. Marching. Organization. Clarity. The guard. In specific divinations my experience with it has been that things continue as the currently are.

That does not answer your question. You have to apply the concept to your situation.
That's all I'm going to contribute to this thread. Good luck.

 

[bradford]

I would be remiss if I did not point out that the judgment of 7 focuses less on the qualities of an dynamic warrior and more on the qualities of a militia troop. In others words, less on active war and more on guard.

A point often missed do the unfortunate connotations of the word Army,
and why I always call this The Militia. The Swiss Army isn't far off though.

We can sometimes benefit by viewing ourselves as a cluster of entities, who move around in all sorts of different directions, and only come together when moved by some higher purpose, or kept in some useful arrangement by some form of discipline. This could be saying to keep it together.

 

[mudpie]

Your first question was about how you can achieve success and happiness, it wasnt really about your love life. The answer 27, although very general, is also profound. Life is such a smorgasboard of stuff, stimuli, etc. but you can decide what you "take in," what you think about regularly, what you dwell on, etc. I believe "you are what you eat," physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually. Together, it all creates the substance, vibrance, of your life. The interesting thing is each one aspect affects all the others. If you decide, for instance, to habitually eat very nourishing healthy foods,for instance, you feel better, you think more clearly, and you vibrate at a higher level in general.
It can work the opposite way, too....your mental diet, your emotional diet, even your musical diet can all determine the quality of your life. Try reading the classics, listening to Mozart, being kind to yourself always. Your life will immediately take on a more vibrant color.
The yi is saying BE MINDFUL of what you "feed on" in all areas, because that will determine your potential for success and happiness.

 

[jesed]

Just in case the comment could be useful

Some implications of 27 are about independence. It is ok to be nourished by others when one had some kind of temporal or definitive handicap. But it is harmful to seek other nourish us when we are capable to nourish ourselfs.

When one realize this, and accept one is capable to nourish one's own life, then the second issue is to chose how we will nourish ourselves. Butv the first step is to realize: "hey, I am the one that had the responsability to sustain my own life".

So, this also points to issues of self-confidence and lack of self-steem.

About 7.. after 27 answer, I read it like: "get some discipline".

I know heart-break situations are dificult; but try to get some discipline and avoid putting HER in the focus for a while. The important people right now are YOURSELF.

Best wishes

 

[pinefox]

Hex 27 this one is food for thought, you should think carefully about where you are going wrong and rectify it. It suggests that you should not be vain but take more notice of what kind of person you are, and how you project yourself to others. Nourishing self interests perhaps? Nourishment in terms of sincere love is what this is all about. Do you consider yours looks to be especially important leaving your heart and mind empty. When you love another be sincere.
Best to be a follower and not a leader in your love affairs.

 

[mafi]

Hexagram 27 changing to 37 Love question

Hello
Great forum by the way!
I've been seeing a guy, I met 2 months ago, it has been intense because we've been traveling back and forth out of the same city, emailing, text messages, etc. we finally had this month in the same place, alas he is leaving the entire summer . I haven't been in love for years, so I've been literally tripping from the experience..I basically forgot that you can fall in love. There has been some moments of doubt if we are a couple or not..we try to take it one step at a time..the connection is stronger than the rational...

Now sometimes I doubt it all, is the cynic in me.
SO I asked the I ching does he love me (I know a silly question, but I feel like a teenager lately)
I got 27 6 on lines 3 & 5
turning into 37

would love to read your feedback


thanks