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That is hardly authoritative on intepreting what the IChing says. Very off topic, I think.From the tarot card readers and psychics I subscribe to,
How will the protests affect the November elections? 21.2.3 Biting Through to 14 Great Procession.
When one rests, they are not working.
Please stop watching fox 'news'
I am sure many of you will also cast readings and post interpretations in the next 5 months leading up to the election on this question. After the elections, perhaps we can review them side by side for post election comparison on our interpretations vs. what actually happened.
So - "How will Donald Trump do now in the November elections?"
17 unchanging. "Following." Also "Acquiring Followers."
Judgment - All judgment translations indicate a successful outcome.
Legge: Following indicates successful progress and no error through firm correctness.
Wilhelm/Baynes: Following has supreme success. Perseverance furthers. No blame.
The Image -
Legge: ...The superior man, in accordance with this, at nightfall enters his house and rests.
Wilhelm/Baynes: ...Thus the superior man at nightfall goes indoors for rest and recuperation.
Liu: ... In the evening, the superior man rests and relaxes in his home.
I interpret this to mean Trump will be successful and reelected, aquiring new followers, and do well enough to be able to relax for once, unlike the last 3 years with multiple attempts to remove him from office.
"Resting in his house" may actual be literal, Democrats could well lose the House of Representatives, so he would have Party control of both Houses Of Congress.
It is possible I think that Democrats currently calling for defunding the police and unable to stop riots and looting - in all the large cities under their Party Control for many generations - this may prove fatal for Democrat Party in November.
I did do a reading, actually. His path to defeat seems obvious (at least to me), so instead asked, "Trump path to re-election?" and got 15.3 to 2.
15.3 - Wilhelm/Baynes: Modesty that comes to expression. Perseverance brings good fortune.
This line talks about "Modesty that crows the cock."
Trojina, I seem to recall in 2016 there were many many readings, from a far flung assortment of readers compared here on who was going to win the American Presidential election.
It is only recently since I passed 60 the Yi has actually started divining for me, and it is very easy to compare predictions and intepretations with actual events. So as a learning and academic exercise, or even as a little bit of a competition in who can best intepret the Yi, I think it is a constructive and positive thing to do.
Is that line 2, not line 3? Here's line 3 from my copy:15.3 - Wilhelm/Baynes: Modesty that comes to expression. Perseverance brings good fortune.
°Nine in the third place means:
A superior man of modesty and merit
Carries things to conclusion.
Good fortune.
Are you saying that's from Wilhelm, or am I misunderstanding? I don't see that in mine, then again I'm good at missing things.This line talks about "Modesty that crows the cock." Seem contradictory, but the crowing expresses virtue and temperance.
Is that line 2, not line 3? Here's line 3 from my copy:
Are you saying that's from Wilhelm, or am I misunderstanding? I don't see that in mine, then again I'm good at missing things.
17uc is such an ambiguous reading I think it's a non-answer.
Indeed. 'Acquiring followers' sounds like a win, and 'following' sounds like losing. We have a thread on 17uc that's interesting reading: https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/fri...s-with-unchanging-castings-hexagram-17.16610/ .17 unchanging. FOLLOWING, According With, Acquiring Followers,
Indeed. 'Acquiring followers' sounds like a win, and 'following' sounds like losing. We have a thread on 17uc that's interesting reading: https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/fri...s-with-unchanging-castings-hexagram-17.16610/ .
For the rest... can we agree that 17 describes something objectively good happening? Not just good for the subject of the question, but objectively good?
I did, somewhere. (Here, for instance.) Yi giving this "advice" (of sorts - me asking about someone isn't the same as the person asking for him/herself) surely means there's a non-zero chance it could happen.Interptet it yourself!
Excuse us?? ☹but we all have our own troubles wih God.
We shall certainly see if this interpretation is accurate in about 5 months.
I think it is very difficult to read it any other way than Trump wins pretty handily in November.
So you start these threads to promote Trump via Yi readings. It is only natural therefore, given your intent is only to promote Trump that various information will be put over about him.
There is a famous early reading in which a woman receives a reading with the full yuan heng li zhen. The diviner interprets this as favourable, but she says no, this refers to the four virtues, none of which she possesses. In other words, that these words describe an objective good, not just one from the point of view of the questioner (or subject of the question). So there are two ways to take this.17 says Supreme Success. Not who that is good for.
Personally I wonder if your 17 could also mean "stay tuned, follow along, and you'll find out."
We shall.We shall certainly see
There is a famous early reading in which a woman receives a reading with the full yuan heng li zhen. The diviner interprets this as favourable, but she says no, this refers to the four virtues, none of which she possesses. In other words, that these words describe an objective good, not just one from the point of view of the questioner (or subject of the question). So there are two ways to take this.
To hear you continually accuse everyone else of bias,
when you are well known by many here as being extremely biased and blind to it is laughable.
You are a hypocrite of the highest order,
powered by a 40 watt gas light.
It s real stretch Hilary, and something I think you and your court do way too often.
Unfair. I am not campaigning, touting anyone's good or bad qualities, capabilities, or speaking on any issue or proselytizing for votes for anyone. I think you did on Brexit, but hey it's your country.
I asked about an outcome, for good or ill, better or worse, what will this outcome be?
Whether the outcome is good or bad you can certainly judge for yourself, but it is what it is.
I have learned a lot here. If you disagree with my interpretation, we can certainly discuss it.
One of Trump's unquestioned talents is his ability to "read" a crowd. He's got a real gift for sensing what his followers want to hear and for being able to say what ever works in the moment - even if it's the total opposite of what he said just the moment before.
Trojina thinks - well she just thinks since it's existentially impossible Trump will be reelected, my interpretation is full of shit and I'm just here to plant a Trump 2020 sign on her lawn...
Anyone like to revise their reading before we put this to bed? Lol...
You know some friendly wagering might make this even more fun...
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