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Don't think I need reminding of suffering Moss.
I could set up a demonstration for you where you are tied up and hit with a series of progressively heavier hammers. Not too long into the process, you wouldn't have any doubt about the place of morality in relation to life. All those complicated thoughts about the nature of reality, the mish mash of elements of cosmogenies that you speak of as if they were facts would quickly be out the window.
Living beings that can suffer should be cared for. It is very simple.
I think this belongs in open space.
If only the Self (not 'self) exists, then there is nothing unique. As everything is Oneness. Therefore there is no diversity, no separate beings.
To me it makes the world of difference Trojan. It is certainly not simply an 'intellectual exercise' - not at all. These are questions which have immense importance and really do affect my life - and quite a few other people's too from what I understand. These are ultimate questions about life and death and of great significance.
I think the issue is consciousness of self. 'Energies' are impersonal. This has been a big question for me. Without continuity of identity in this sense, karma is a total illusion as there is no 'person' to link the thread.
If only the Self (not 'self) exists, then there is nothing unique. As everything is Oneness. Therefore there is no diversity, no separate beings.
But do we really 'interfere'? Do we really choose?
Yes. It is about looking, seeing, letting be...I have sought to explain in previous posts in this thread. I don't know how else to describe how this works. The ideas and basic approach as described is the best way I can explain what I understand to be true 'liberation'. This is embryonic in a sense. I am not here to convince or prove anything really, just wanting to share what I am discovering, exploring, whatever. If you or others don't agree, or choose to see things differently, no problem at all. it's not about arguing, it's about seeking 'what is' for me. In my understanding that inevitably results in changes of perception, quality of life. The happening that can occur from this understanding result in true liberation....I say 'happening' because in the ordinary sense it seems one cant manufacture this.
Don't forget to floss those illusory gnashers.
,Issue with therapist? Who knows, sometimes I feel this new 'vision' is in fact, 'releasing' me.........enabling me to see that actually I really can stand alone and know that in fact there is real virtue in that, in my own space, resplendently
Don't forget to floss those illusory gnashers.
So, no, it is definitely NOT 'bull'.
although some say liberation is bull because we are always already liberated and so it goes....hence my link to the dead posters society
I think the issue is consciousness of self. 'Energies' are impersonal. This has been a big question for me. Without continuity of identity in this sense, karma is a total illusion as there is no 'person' to link the thread.
It is not that we are not 'already' enlightened - in a sense what that means is that we are already 'at the place' where the knowing of 'Enlightenment' exists - in other words POTENTIALLY we can 'know'...but the difference is certainly there between before and after - it doesn't change what is actually happening, what it changes is how one/what one sees..in the living of the life.
the vision, the feeling, the joy, - the 'seeing', the 'immediacy' of experience. The relative is embraced in the absolute in other words, whatever we do or don't do, but seeing from the near absolute (or absolute) is still a quantum leap; it is being 'God', and seeing FROM god, and there being nothing in between. 'Ye have heard that ye all are gods'. Who said that? Can't remember. But that is what we are talking about here. The Knowing.
Oh, and it is absolutely NOT about concepts. It is 'concepts' that create the maya. This is beyond concepts, beyond language. .
What I am suggesting is very tough; but it is also the only way to true liberation.Whatever we are, whatever there is, has to have context.
It is the context, and seeing from that, without 'personal' identity that constitutes 'Enlightenment'.
The 'person' who despaired in 'Leviticus' i.e. 'all is vanity', needed to take just one step further.......
Clarity,
Office 17622,
PO Box 6945,
London.
W1A 6US
United Kingdom
Phone/ Voicemail:
+44 (0)20 3287 3053 (UK)
+1 (561) 459-4758 (US).