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A reptile's brain is basically just a limbic system that serves to mediate primitive drives. In higher animals, however, with the passing of millions and millions of years, the neocortex developed and enlarged. In humans, this newer part of the brain system is involved in regulating or "putting the brakes on" the primitive drives coming from the limbic system. In people with OCD, it may be that the neocortex is overreacting to these primitive drives of hygience, territorial order, sex, and aggression, sending out so many inhibitory impulses that the OCD sufferer feels as though he or she is in constant danger and must take action, repeatedly against that danger. (Page 60, everything in is place, Marc Summers with Eric Hollander, m.d.).

The Chinese medicine places strong emphasis on going mild esp. in sexual activity in order to curb the onset of mental disorders, inclusive the cycle of OCD. In this light, is it true that excessive sexual gratification could somewhat "misalign" our braking system in our brain? What Carl Jung would have said about that?
 

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Hi Prynne, now i can recalled. The title is what attracted me to take a look into book. The phrase everything (keep falling) in its place resonates well with Yi and shamanism! I do not mind very much about ocd (which i know the need to have 'label' to attach to each mental state in our current medical world). After all this is what Yi is about to me, letting everything that come our way fall in its right place. Just flow with Tao.
 

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Frontal lobes dynamics, acting to suppress the 'primitive' brain areas (see such texts as "The Executive Brain" re this area of activity), if damaged or under developed can allow for 'extremes' in self-preservation/preservation-of-the-species issues.

The differentiate/integrate 'split' is already present in that part of our brains we share with reptiles through differentiations in the Reticular Activating System (RAS). These differences are clearer in differentiation in the limbic system with the 'left' half attuned to differentiating/competitive/self, the 'right' half attuned to integrating/cooperative/others.

Move up a level into the cingulate cortex and more discrete behaviours emerge, as does a well differentiated attention system and the awarness of time periods (the seperation cry of mammals is 'located' here where the infants have a specific form of cry if left alone (and so a detectable time period) or lose sight of their parent) Move from there into the neocortex and we find the strong left/right differentiations between as well as within hemispheres.

In the context of cortical 'layers' we have:

RAS - 1
Limbic - 3
cingulate cortex - 4
neocortex - 6

Using dyes on the brain we can detect banding patterns where the differentiate/integrate dichotomy is 'recursed' to give us 'interdigitation' patterns all over the place, e.g. left/right visual fields in the occipital cortex or left/right association areas in the frontal lobes. In their 'nature' format these look like this: (L = left, R = right):

left brain - right brain
LRLRLRLRLR-LRLRLRLRLR (frontal lobes) - these are POTENTIALS
LRLRLRLRLR-LRLRLRLRLR (occipital lobes, fields of vision in the eye)

'fields of vision' reflects the LR distinctions in EACH eye where they cross over in the brain to give LR patterns in the back of each hemisphere (occipital lobes).

Experience then localises these patterns into such patterns as:

LRLLRRLRLR-LLRRRRLRLR

IOW the under-utilised are recruited by the over-utilised to increase their bandwidth. If we interpret these as PAIRS then this is like the 02,23 hexagram pair being 'taken over' by either 02 or 23 natures where local context is 'blind' to one or the other.

IOW as we move 'up' the brain from reptilian to neo-mammalian so we see 'bifurcations' take place, recursion at work, from the 'trunk/root' of our spine emerges branches and they have to fit into the skull and so get folded etc. - if left alone to develop we would see a 'tree' structure emerge.

In the limbic system is the hard-coded fight/flight dichotomy of emotions where the dichotomy is 'interdigitised' over the 'surface' of the amygdala (FightFlightFightFlight....) again showing recursion at work where the interdigitation is a product of recursion of a dichotomy (reflected in the I Ching in the top line 'interdigitations' we find in the binary sequence - the degree of interdigitation reflects the LEVEL of recursion, the finer the degree the deeper the recursion and so at level 64 we have the top line oscillation, interdigitation, of yin/yang/yin/yang as we move along the hexagrams)

If I do damage to the frontal lobes then I will also show 'de-socialisation' in behaviour as well as such conditions as ADD/ADHD - if we fall back on Freudian terms, the 'back' of the brain is 'id', then we move into ego and on into superego. The latter is a suppressive force, derived from social 'rules' etc.

Note that the frontal lobes areas, being strongly associated with the rational, the precise, planning etc and so high frequency, FM, processing, also makes them 'sensitive' in that the first frequencies that get 'scattered' easily are the high frequencies due to their short wavelengths - this allows for issues of concentration problems, too lax or too intense (and so the LOCAL focus of FM as compared to the longer range of AM). If we view this in 'colours' so the FM area is 'blue' and the AM is 'red'. Due to the 'entanglement' of the differentiating/integrating threads, so the FM/AM dynamic applies across hemispheres, within hemispheres, as well as front/back dynamics and surface/core dynamics.

The front/back dynamic is repeated left/right thus the more differentiating left is focused on precision and its representation, precise labels, universals. The more universal the more it is encoded in the back half of these areas reflecting their immediacy to the area of data input (and so stimulus/response using universals - aka instincts/habits).

The mediating dynamics of consciousness are 'mapped' to frontal lobe dynamics and so the suppression processes that allow for DELAY in information processing to get a 'better picture', a better, rational, focus on things (to a degree of potential 'psychosis' where the individual 'logic' dominates social values issues). This delay allows for skills development, refinement of instincts through a focus on practice - and THAT can also lead to compulsive behaviours where the practice becomes manic.

Chris.
 

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This delay allows for skills development, refinement of instincts through a focus on practice - and THAT can also lead to compulsive behaviours where the practice becomes manic.

so at the end, i am still a potential serial killer ...
 

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If an engineer is genetically coded as XNTP (solution-seeker, that means each individual of us is genetically coded to take up certain roles in the society. Very interesting and quite true.
 

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This is common in social species - drones and warriors etc, alpha males/females, different skill sets reflect the distribution of labour across the collective.

For our species, however, with our consciousness, so we can explore other areas, become multiskilled, outside of our 'preferred' area.

Thus the four 'basics' of identity seeking, security seeking, solutions seeking, and sensation seeking will be distributed across a collective with LOCAL biases - e.g. in the USA we have:

35% sensation seeking (MBTI SP)
35% security seeking (MBTI SJ)
15% problem solving (MBTI NT)
15% identity seeking (MBTI NF)

If we map yin/yang THREADS then we have:

NF...NF...SJ...SJ
000, 010, 010, 011 yin
NT...NT...SP....SP
100, 101, 110, 111 yang

Note the skew to the 'yang' end of things, (right end, 70% of population) reflecting an overall social 'bias' to yangness.

As such, types can be MADE or BORN or a mix of both. This can cause 'issues' where a 'naturally' fearful individual can have issues with not being able to find what they fear! the feelings are there but no apparent cause - this can indicate someone BORN fearful where generic diversity will allow for this in that in some contexts that fearfulness could found to be beneficial.

Y-chromosome genes are all male and as such allow for the core male/female differences. The mitochondrial DNA retains the link to the female line for the male as well as female (all mapped through the X chromosome.)
 

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