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....the idea that Mary had all these married women around her who have never had an orgasm. It leaves me puzzled both at the condition of these women who surround Mary and also puzzled as to the point she is making/supporting?Many married women around me haven't experienced the orgasm a single time in their lives.
Maybe this post helps?..it was more the idea that Mary had all these married women around her who have never had an orgasm.
But that's so generalised (and antiquated, sounds very 1950s) it doesn't really mean anything or rather as we cannot get data on how an entire population of married people/people in long term relationships enjoy sex or don't enjoy it no conclusions can be drawn from saying married women Mary knows don't have orgasms.As for the point, IMO it seems to clearly relate to committed relationships leading to sex being considered a chore and obligation for their husbands rather than something that is a positive and creative/liberating/etc experience.
You misunderstood me....somehow. I meant 'antiquated' in the sense that that attitude 'lie back and think of England' (what they'd say in the UK), the idea that sex was for the pleasure of the man and a woman's duty, she must 'lie back' and endure is very much a pre 1950s kind of attitude. I just don't think it is prevalent in the same way today at least in the western world. In the same way back then people stayed in unhappy marriages far more than they do now.thinking it a chore and bother if not worse, because they don't know any different, that I would not think this current issue for them an antiquated idea.
I agree about the flaws of both. Funny how we oscillate between extremes. As for where the notion of spontaneous natural sexual interactions comes from, it is just from an in between path of those exploring their freedom of choice as they navigate inner growth happen to meet each other and interact. I don't know about sustainable, as paths like this tend not to be pinned down for long, though a relationship may last for a time before conditions change and people are moved on to new lessons. It is after all the over attachment that tends to cause problems in committed relationships. As for spiritual, the path of inner growth is already spiritual, so we tend to meet with those who we can grow from and resonate with.My point is, if the casual sex is flawed, so is marriage and commitment. Notice that after the latter started to vanish, the second came. That's the reality of world. I don't know where did the notion of transcendent, overly pleasant, sustainable sex that leads to personal, spiritual development come. That's not what I see in real life. Take a look at the posts on this forum.
Clarity,
Office 17622,
PO Box 6945,
London.
W1A 6US
United Kingdom
Phone/ Voicemail:
+44 (0)20 3287 3053 (UK)
+1 (561) 459-4758 (US).