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meaning no disrespect to mountain climbers or hermits in my last post actually
because I think Elder Gabriel really does have that unrelenting seeker look in his eyes. He's asking all the questions and feeling all the feelings.
Funny that site should be about iconography and orthodoxy - reading an image for clues about how to go about it.
anyway, I think this particular hermit has something to say, iconographically, to me, and to others if they can read a hermit icon good enough!
I wonder if he winks? probably not. I wonder if he blinks? probably. we have that luxury as humans and not mountain goats i think.
I wonder if he winks? probably not. I wonder if he blinks? probably. we have that luxury as humans and not mountain goats i think.
Frank,Hi Panther,
Rely on you to interrupt a nice thread on personal states of mind most appropriate for Yi Oracle appreciation with more of your long blah-blah-blah with so little inherent meaning, it's just not worth going over in detail.
You missed the boat on the meaning of the phrase 'Need to Know' in this thread (surprising for one so proud of his CIA roots) and then try to blather your way out of your mistake. Relax, its OK to make a mistake, just don't get all bent out of shape about it.
Frank
Hi pp (I like that form of your moniker, it has such interesting pun value)
If you expect your attacks to have any impact, you have to maintain at least sufficient contact with reality that your words don't come off as pure projection of the dark recesses inside your own mind. Though some of your words are intriguing... see below.
Unfortunately, the 'need to know' reference on this thread had nothing to do with security clearances. [Apparently, you aren't quite up to snuff on US intel doctrine either, isn't operational n-to-k about being a necessary participant in the op not just having achieved the inside status in the hierarchy which is expressed in the various levels of security clearance?]
In this thread, it was a reference to how a personal need for an answer was the best indicator of how clear and satisfying the Yi Oracle result would be. If you had managed to read the other posts on the thread before you took off on your strange tangent you might have caught the drift of the comments that indeed that was what made the difference between a Yi Oracle that hit a bulls eye and those that were just words.
Of course, such subjective honesty is apparently a major problem for you, so you end up posting about other things more convenient to your thought pattern.
BTW, my first technical paper for an occult conference was upon the importance of the occult virtues of 'ignorance' and 'stupidity'. Apparently a perspective not to your liking, but I thank you for what to me is quite a compliment, though I must demur a bit--you laud me with a greater achievement than I can fully accept. It is like you calling me a true uncarved block. Again, I thank you for your kindness and your honor of my achievements in mystical philosophy and initiation. :bows:
(still at the honors you heap upon me)
Frank
I remember from my days on the university that I read "the Catalpa bow" from Carmen Blacker, a british anthropologist. The catalpa bow is a study of Japanese shamanisn -if you ever come along this unknown classic, read it, it's fun, an English lady with her handbag between the shamans. But she also did some fire-walking and concluded: "all went well, in spite of the fact that I did not have a collected mind whatsoever, actually, I was somewhat distracted" (my words, no citations).
At the other hand: in my recent meditations I make contact with god and accept that i am part of god and god part of me. Well, ehhhh -this is not very christian- yesterday god started to tickle me under my heart. It was so so funny, I laughed and laughed and smiled and smiled. Then I thought "I will throw the yi now and get hex 42 with the 2nd and 5th line -with coins. That is what came...
This is something I have known since a long time, but recently I know it for sure. strange, but the yi is part of it. It is as if a door is opening.
Panther,
I think you are referring to people and teachings that claim to have admission to something godly or an authority that normal, uninitiated earthlings have no acces to, and therefore claim an authority over you. That might become a 17-4 situation.
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Marie-Louise von Franz, "On Divination and Synchronicity" suggests the Yijing should only be consulted when there is a real need, i.e. things are going on in the unconscious and archetypes are constellated. Then synchronicity works. It shouldn't be consulted just as a matter of curiosity? Bob
Marie-Louise von Franz, "On Divination and Synchronicity" suggests the Yijing should only be consulted when there is a real need, i.e. things are going on in the unconscious and archetypes are constellated. Then synchronicity works. It shouldn't be consulted just as a matter of curiosity? Bob
Hi Bob,
There is always a bit of difficulty in those who claim that others should only consult the Yi when they do or only when they find it fits their norms and expectations. Any such claims, including the need for some practice or teacher or anything else violates the fundamental reality of the Yi Oracle. Not everyone who is shown the Yi Oracle or ever uses it becomes a regular. And those that do have their own unique and personal relationship with the Yi which is not at all any business of anyone else to judge.
The interaction between any of us and the Yi Oracle is a totally personal matter and anyone else butting in to make normative pronouncements is strange to the max.
Frank
Marie-Louise von Franz, "On Divination and Synchronicity" suggests the Yijing should only be consulted when there is a real need, i.e. things are going on in the unconscious and archetypes are constellated. Then synchronicity works. It shouldn't be consulted just as a matter of curiosity? Bob
Marie-Louise von Franz, "On Divination and Synchronicity" suggests the Yijing should only be consulted when there is a real need, i.e. things are going on in the unconscious and archetypes are constellated. Then synchronicity works. It shouldn't be consulted just as a matter of curiosity? Bob
sorry trojan, tried to enlarge mtn goat photo in editor mode, arrows wouldn't do a thing
i know the photo is of two mountain goats on a narrow ledge with apparently no way out and a waterfall is in the upperground. I hope they can turn around, they are mountain goats anfter all and maybe they were ok.
poor animals. foul humans.
hi Solun, Trojan (and everyone else of course )
Solun I followed your 'right click' instructions and played around with the url a bit . .
the image is not a photo really, it is a painting from redsunfineart.com . .
try this link . .
http://www.redsunfineart.com/robert_bateman.htmlOf all of the American mammals, the world of the mountain goat is the most rarified and precipitous, and yet he negotiates it with the nonchalant ease of a stroll in the park. I would be in a state of sheer terror if I was in their position, but the goats' bland expressions are compatible with their confidence. - Robert Bateman
Yet I know that I dwell in the midst of the roar
of the Cosmic Wheel
In the hot collision of Forces, and the clangor
of Boundless Strife
Mid the sound of the speed of worlds, the rushing
worlds, and the peal
Of the thunder of Life
W. Watson, "Dawn on the Headland"
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