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I shall look forward to it. (Now, which gua is Olive?)

Why 31, of course. AkAkAkAk!

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Brad thanks for starting this thread! Another one I'm looking forward to reading in detail when time comes by more ample . . (ahem)
 
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"Sacrament" is an excellent choice of words for a Christian view of Grace, an outward display of an inner covenant - a blood covenant, and is or can be related to knot's intended meaning of a marriage or a promise. None of them mean anything if they're not sincere or if they do not originate from within. As with any outer form, without authentic life existing within, it really is just empty and ornamental bling, which I'd choose to illustrate more through 54, and line 6 in particular.

That's not limited to just lightweight sentimentalism either. My grandparents never met until a two family covenant was arranged to marry their daughter to the other family's son. They didn't even meet until the daughter was sent to this country for the explicit purpose of marrying my grandfather, for the purpose of starting a family in this country. The family and family name did indeed flourish outwardly, producing all sort of individuals who went on to proliferate and extend the family. It all sprouted from a covenant between families and that seed. Flower power indeed.
 
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WHICH, btw, is how I view this thread and threads like it. Brad planted some powerful seeds, and like an original artery which carries blood away from the heart, enters the entire circulatory system, vital for sustaining life through the entire living organism. Sticking to and limiting that life only to the original post would choke off that life, which is not off topic but extending that family of ideas and life-giving conversation to the forum. Suppressing that life leads to clogged arteries and an early death, and indeed a nearsighted view and purpose.

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Somewhere in the ancient history of this thread, I said ancient China didn't have the idea of a meaningless ritual (and hence reading 22's marriage imagery as 'just superficial' didn't work). Trojina said, not unreasonably, 'What about 54.6, then?' and I forgot to respond in the midst of our 22-flurry.

But luckily for me Sooo and Knot have done it anyway:

oh but yes of COURSE you can lie under oath, and make a promise and not keep it (even make it KNOWING you won't keep it). And you can make a marriage vow and not mean it--or mean it, and not be able to keep it.

But that doesn't mean those word-actions have no meaning or no power. To lie under oath, to break a vow, to break a promise to a friend, to refuse to apologize--those are all quite serious things.


"Sacrament" is an excellent choice of words for a Christian view of Grace, an outward display of an inner covenant - a blood covenant, and is or can be related to knot's intended meaning of a marriage or a promise. None of them mean anything if they're not sincere or if they do not originate from within. As with any outer form, without authentic life existing within, it really is just empty and ornamental bling, which I'd choose to illustrate more through 54, and line 6 in particular.

Exactly. If the marriage ceremony were essentially meaningless (in the Yi, I mean, never mind what we think of it in general), then line 54.6 wouldn't exist, because who would care whether they brought an empty basket and a dead goat when everything at the Elvis Chapel is made of plastic anyway? Why would we even bother mentioning it, if nothing real is meant to happen in the ritual? Or at the very least, the line would have the tag 'no blame, no praise' like 28.5 instead of 'no direction bears fruit' - and would not feel horrifying. (Well, it feels horrifying to me, anyway.)

Anyway... I've been reading up on offerings as well as marriage, working on the expanded glossary for the journal software, and one theme that keeps coming back is the vital importance ofsincerity in offerings. Same theme we know from Yi, come to think of it. The Shang's offering of great stacks of oxen is not as real as the modest efforts of the Zhou.

...where was I? Oh yes. Ritual must be performed with truth; the evils of ritual without truth are well-known, so I was being too vague and sweeping saying there was no such thing as an empty ritual. What I should have said: no such thing as a meaningless ritual - it's never just trivial/ superficial/ insignificant. If you perform ritual without truth, there will be consequences.

That's not limited to just lightweight sentimentalism either. My grandparents never met until a two family covenant was arranged to marry their daughter to the other family's son. They didn't even meet until the daughter was sent to this country for the explicit purpose of marrying my grandfather, for the purpose of starting a family in this country. The family and family name did indeed flourish outwardly, producing all sort of individuals who went on to proliferate and extend the family. It all sprouted from a covenant between families and that seed. Flower power indeed.

That's extraordinary - it's exactly the pattern I've been writing up. We see marriage and we think 'union between two individuals'. In early China, it could happen that first the two families agreed a marriage, and then they started negotiating which family members should be bride and groom. And yes, then the bride would have to leave everything she knew behind her and travel to the groom's home.
 
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It was sometimes joked about, that originally my grandmother's sister was chosen to marry my grandfather, but it was decided that my grandmother was ideally built for bearing many children, and that my grandfather was the hardest working and most handsome of his brothers. One might today call them 'most likely to succeed'. So the plans were changed, and the so the younger daughter was chosen in my great aunt's place. My grandfather started with a small blacksmith shop, but was gifted with the forge and anvil, and grew as an ornamental iron artisan, to which he later introduced his two sons (nice way of saying it, as they both were forced to quit school to help grow the family business), and they eventually formed a three way partnership until my grandfather's retirement. He gave both sons the down payment on their first houses to raise their families, and provided housing to his two daughters' families, though not as affluently as the sons who helped to build the business. My grandmother put away change in a jar each week, and every time she had saved enough, would go to the city hall and purchased a little more land to add to their yard. Eventually she saved enough to buy the land the family shop and two 2-story houses were built on. It became a small family dynasty due to their hard word and my grandmother's strict frugality. Their ancestors had chosen wisely, as though by destiny. My grandmother's sister was a riot: loud, gruff, always yelling and joking, but was not the archetypal mother of her sister, and so was promised to a less noble man to marry.

My grandmother resembled, especially in her later years, this familiar ancient and common fertility icon/goddess - the Venus of Willendorph, dated to roughly 25,000 years ago. An outer image of great inner significance, of which we have limited knowledge of but from her obviously maternal outer form.

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I do like 22 for mindmapping - that's brilliant. Not only because it's important to adorn your mindmap, but because they are supposed to make it possible to relate to the ideas. Absolutely 22.

'Secular' is the opposite of 'ecclesiastical', by the way - but your meaning is clear. And now you have me reaching for the dictionary to look up 'charisma'…

If we wanted a Christian word for 22, it could almost be 'sacrament'. I remember reciting in Sunday school that a sacrament was 'an outward and visible sign of an inward and spiritual grace'. That's 22. (But then so is branding, and suitors, and so on.)

I found Yi's answer wonderful too. Bullet points notes are somehow "still" but mind-maps, at least for me, give "life" to the most boring concept.. The flow becomes apparent. There is a building up through stripping in a way.

On the other hand, when my hand's nerves are burning , the flow is obstructed. I think Ken re body parts its a hand and fire in the hand made lots of sense as a reading , but also the image of lava into a mountain popped out of my mind.

Thanks for correcting the wrong word ; wanted to write sacred but you caught the mistake and the thoughts of the "presence" very much like the mountain -volcano. 22, implies or shows directly a lot of rituals. I like what you said about sacraments. It is , its a union , again . Don't recall who but someone had said in the past that 22 has not rituals, anyways. Was looking this morning in a drive a store some thing if I could find a file re rituals - simple mundane ones but full of big meanings. When/ if i found it will post it.

Was Good Friday yesterday and i recall that many years ago the women spend the night at church adorning the Christ's" death bed like the story of the woman mourning his death and make all the preparations before put him into that cave. Nowadays florist shop has take that and decorate it and advertise at the same time their shop and creativity. Both ways a 22 with essence or no-sense.
 

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Somewhere in the ancient history of this thread, I said ancient China didn't have the idea of a meaningless ritual (and hence reading 22's marriage imagery as 'just superficial' didn't work). Trojina said, not unreasonably, 'What about 54.6, then?' and I forgot to respond in the midst of our 22-flurry.



Nope wasn't expecting responses anyway. I am finding the word 'superficial' just stops people hearing beyond that. It has been said so often that 'superficial' need not be taken in a pejorative way, yet it is always taken that way. No response invited or required ;)


Anyway... I've been reading up on offerings as well as marriage, working on the expanded glossary for the journal software, and one theme that keeps coming back is the vital importance ofsincerity in offerings. Same theme we know from Yi, come to think of it. The Shang's offering of great stacks of oxen is not as real as the modest efforts of the Zhou.

...where was I? Oh yes. Ritual must be performed with truth; the evils of ritual without truth are well-known, so I was being too vague and sweeping saying there was no such thing as an empty ritual. What I should have said: no such thing as a meaningless ritual - it's never just trivial/ superficial/ insignificant. If you perform ritual without truth, there will be consequences.[/SUP]



But I've yet to see any of your actual 22 readings that have anything much to do with either ritual or sacrament..... or anyone else's come to that. Perhaps I have forgotten them ? I've not done a search but none actually come to mind....at all. Looking in wiki, as don't have books with me, only see suitor in 22.4 anyway....and I think the suitor has silk in 22.5....but overall it's not that the whole of 22 is about marriage vows is it ? Well not in wiki anyway...Perhaps you are not talking about 22....I don't know.

I don't require any response to this post unless you can point to/link to some readings, real life readings, with 22 showing as ritual and sacrament etc etc metaphoric or literal ? That would be interesting to see.
 

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There is a convention , I think, that superficial is not flattering at all and has a derogatory meaning. I doubt if you lets say send a message to everybody herewith a “hi, I think you are superficial” and get a “thank you!!” ;)


The rite , ritual etc of f22, in my eyes ( pun not intention) is that of one that leaves a man made vehicle goes on foot. Touching the ground with bare foots its an intention to discover the world and reach the “white”unadorned substance – the real thing under the surface.


Adorning, to me it's neutral. In order to see something to attend to it to perceive it first and most important has to be strong enough to excite our senses. After all , senses its a important tool to “learn” about the world around us. But attention and perception its not only about the object before us. It involves decisions too.. Decision criteria ,in turn, involves personality traits, circumstances and a cost-benefit assessment in 22.4, the decision, imo, its apparent.Should the subject A hold onto the impression that Subject B is a robber or the have to step back a but and reconsider ?


I see impressions in 22.4And impressions has a lot to do with what has been impress in my mind. Its about what we have be conditioned to see and also how we re wired to see. A rope in the dark could be a snake , so we need tobe careful so the first reaction is “woops , a snake” Now depending on circumstances this impression needs different processing time to actually come to the conclusion that this is a rope and not a snake.


The matching or marriage between subjects A and B could be the tuning with what is real and what is fake . Yi have gave me several times this line for silly misunderstandings . Different incidences same underlining pattern.Delude , have come to take it as the truth will shine but , to my experience-till now -sometimes that is not the case. I take it now ,for a specific set of incidences as a reminder of the reality, that sometimes its not enough to say say “ this is a rope” one has to 'see” that.


There are better hexes,that ritual are more apparent . Hex 45 and 16 are some of them. Yet,,in 22, I see ritual too for the vantage point of the one participates, about the experience exploring the true nature of things.


The world outside is not the world we see. I think we all can agree on that. Our abilities have their limits. Leaving the carriage, somehow its the intention to clear our understanding and let more of the object world outside get into us. So , in that sense, maybe more metaphorical that literal,there is a ritual. The tryad of 21, 22, 23 , in my opinion, make the ritual more clear. I found it really thought provoking that 22 starts with someone leaving a carriage and 23.6 someone getting a carriage.


I really don't care if Grace is a bad word or not. “Grace” is an opinion. My notes for every little concept I had to study for has this structure “according to A perspective (paradigm)things are like such-A, according to B perspective things are such B” There is no agreement in almost everything. And thats because every perspective focus on specific things , acknowledge as important specific things and discards as not important specific things.


Maya, in a broader sense ts about the same idea. Manifestations can be illusions or not. But manifestations are not the Whole. Either we read Hindu texts or biology book to that ,on some degree, they all agree. And to me this is the underling theme of 22. We have limits and we need to be aware of them. And the cycle of 21-22-23 its how we can control them , in some ways ,instead of controlling us- to the degree is possible, of course.

The ritual of 22 ( imo) reaches at the crucial point at 22.4. ( not a coincidence that 22.4 changes to 30). From that line and afterwards the scenery of 22 changes. 22.4 feels like a turning point. A connection to what is "real" is more visible,imho. So the question , in the line text , seems to me as the point to decide towards which direction one wants to move to. It resemble a rite of passage.
 

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22 is nearsighted in a sense that isn't pejorative, Shortsighted carries a more negative connotation. Nearsight only speaks of an ability to see the close-up more clearly than the far away. Near-sightedness happens to be very useful to a mountain goat climbing a cliff. It would be deadly to get distracted by all the great distant views until he got to the top.
 
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22 is nearsighted in a sense that isn't pejorative, Shortsighted carries a more negative connotation. Nearsight only speaks of an ability to see the close-up more clearly than the far away. Near-sightedness happens to be very useful to a mountain goat climbing a cliff. It would be deadly to get distracted by all the great distant views until he got to the top.

I'm not seeing examples of nearsightedness as being perceived as being pejorative, and I'm not seeing nearsighted being confused with shortsightedness, other than by your yourself and those who echo your views on this. I know I walk nearsightedly to avoid even using the word so as to avoid the shortsighted connotation, like the mountain goat would. Or to use a 62 connotation to avoid stepping on egg shells. I think we, at least most us by now, get what you mean by nearsightedness, and I am not confusing the meaning. I think the mountain goat's importance of nearsightedness is apt for h10, where differentiating high and low can equally apply to near and far, and the cautionary aspect is apt for 62. There's no pejorative misapplications here, as you keep implying. It isn't a question of looking outward but of looking inward toward the essence and fundamental cause for the outward expression, which has been repeatedly expressed in different examples and forms, yet seem to be completely ignored by you and those who hold to your views of 22.

I doubt this will cause the world to end or have any great significance other than in ones own choices and personal view, as implied in 22, not to presume executing justice. I refer back to Lisa's target arrow spread as possibly being a good thing in this instance.
 

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22 is nearsighted in a sense that isn't pejorative, Shortsighted carries a more negative connotation. Nearsight only speaks of an ability to see the close-up more clearly than the far away. Near-sightedness happens to be very useful to a mountain goat climbing a cliff. It would be deadly to get distracted by all the great distant views until he got to the top.

Huh - to me 'nearsighted' and 'shortsighted' just mean the same thing, except I think 'near sighted' might be the American English for 'short sighted'. 'Short sighted' is what I was diagnosed as when I got my first pair of pink plastic NHS glasses at the age of 6.

I still think 22 is about making the essence visible - and that 'Grace' is a pretty unfortunate translation. 'Branding' would be better.

I will look for examples!
 

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Thought:

we're agreed 22 is about surfaces/ images/ appearances.

Brad says it's (only?) about how we see them, and do or don't understand they're only appearances.

I think it's about how and why we create them to be seen, as well as how they're seen.

Is that a half-way decent summary?
 
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Grammatically they probably are the same, in that vision is limited to what's near either way. But I can get the difference Brad is referring to, in that, at least here in the states, shortsighted can also carry the pejorative connotation of an ignorant way of missing the point.

Though I have to say, he too included both the shallower idea of adornment, dressing up, etc. along with elaborating and placing emphasis on his mountain goat's need to have his vision focused on what's near rather than enjoying the long range view of the mountainous landscape. So I'd think he's probably cool with both ideas. I don't think he's down with the inner beauty revealing itself outwardly idea, or if he is, he hasn't shown it here.

For myself, I'm not satisfied with "we're agreed 22 is about surfaces/ images/ appearances." It misses the reason that things flourish outwardly in a, dare I say, graceful way. I can easily dismiss surface appearances as being superficial, or bling, in Courtney's term, but that's not what I see or intuit when I see organic beauty or appreciate a work of art, a pleasing melody or rainbow beginning or ending upon a mountain, or an attractive woman. I'm drawn to what's within or behind that beauty, the soul that wrote that melody, and nature's purpose for that bird's beautiful plume of feathers.

I think there may be no greater truth within 22 than beauty is in the eye and depth of the beholder.
 

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I always thought that 'short-sightedness' referred mainly to a frame of mind while 'near-sightedness' to a frame of sight but what you said, Hilary proves different . .

I find 'Refinement' to be a great term for 22


What fascinates me is what Bruce hinted at with his comment on the 'flourishing' aspect of 22 . . What for us, humans, may be just a beautiful flower, is a vital part of an organism's proliferation, a call to action, the proof of someone's/something's power to regenerate itself, to give produce, to produce wealth . . In another thread I likened Bi to porcelain and I still find the comparison to be very productive and rich without losing ground with the basics of 22. If 21 is the dynamic breaking through the mountainous rocks and smashing them down to fine dust to find what we're looking for, 22 comes to refine those materials into something that shows the degrees of sophisticated practice that someone can attain. Plus, refinement can apply to very different situations and contexts without losing its strength at gesturing towards attentive, sometimes even delicate, courses of action that have as their purpose to show off or promote a sophisticated point of view

. . how does that sound?
 

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I think 'near sighted' might be the American English for 'short sighted'. 'Short sighted' is what I was diagnosed as when I got my first pair of pink plastic NHS glasses at the age of 6.

Yes, exactly, in American English we say "nearsighted" for the eyesight-focusing problem (am well acquainted with this term myself :eek:uch:).

For sake of completeness, here is the Merriam-Webster definition of "short-sighted." This is how we use it in the U.S.:

  • not considering what will or might happen in the future
  • made or done without thinking about what will happen in the future
  • lacking foresight
 
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I always thought that 'short-sightedness' referred mainly to a frame of mind while 'near-sightedness' to a frame of sight but what you said, Hilary proves different . .

I find 'Refinement' to be a great term for 22

What fascinates me is what Bruce hinted at with his comment on the 'flourishing' aspect of 22 . . What for us, humans, may be just a beautiful flower, is a vital part of an organism's proliferation, a call to action, the proof of someone's/something's power to regenerate itself, to give produce, to produce wealth . . In another thread I likened Bi to porcelain and I still find the comparison to be very productive and rich without losing ground with the basics of 22. If 21 is the dynamic breaking through the mountainous rocks and smashing them down to fine dust to find what we're looking for, 22 comes to refine those materials into something that shows the degrees of sophisticated practice that someone can attain. Plus, refinement can apply to very different situations and contexts without losing its strength at gesturing towards attentive, sometimes even delicate, courses of action that have as their purpose to show off or promote a sophisticated point of view

. . how does that sound?

It sounds good but I need to use progressive lenses to catch your meanings, or squint a little ;), in that when using a single focus lens, I see gold, diamonds etc, within a mountain in 26, and I see refinement, such as in the creation of fine porcelain through refinement of grosser materials as being expressed in 50. :bows:
 
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Here's a little brain tease.

There's a mature woman friend, who seems preoccupied with her appearance, which naturally ages with time. A couple days ago she was here on the property (she boards her horse here) and was showing off her new extremely large-rimmed western straw hat. I thought either it would blow away or she'd blow away like the Flying Nun. She said the reason for getting this hat was to prevent developing more 'age spots'. Now, as an aging man, I can empathize with this to a certain degree but I thought the hat was pretty extreme, as was her concern.

If you were to do an IC reading for her concerning this matter, what uc hexagram would you expect her to receive?

Choice suggestions:
a) 22 (aging gracefully)
b) 48 (going deeper)
c) 50 (refinement of your assets)
d) all or any of the above
e) something other (specify)
 

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I'd expect to get 36, perhaps with a moving line

(I wonder if Yi enjoys seeing us mere humans stumbling over one another trying to come up with unifying, 'single-minded' meanings for its hexagrams . . are all encompassing names even possible???)

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e) Something to tell her that if she's relying only the hat, it is insufficient, and she should be using sunscreen.

(I can't think of what hexagram or line that would be. Am drawing a total blank. I'm sure there are several possibilities, but I cannot think :brickwall:)
 

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What question is she asking? If it's 'what to do about age spots?', how about 11.6?
 

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It sounds good but I need to use progressive lenses to catch your meanings, or squint a little ;), in that when using a single focus lens, I see gold, diamonds etc, within a mountain in 26, and I see refinement, such as in the creation of fine porcelain through refinement of grosser materials as being expressed in 50. :bows:


Just to revisit this re 50 (26 didn't make much sense to me to begin with in this context);

While I can definitely see where 'refinement' comes into 50, I would more likely identify it with more comprehensive processes, going from raw to processed - I think 50 talks more about the creation of new 'technologies', and their cultures while 22 is more specialized than this, as we already have an infrastructure in place and the question lies on perfecting it to achieve a certain goal . . In that sense, 'refinement' still feels a good fit for 22 and going back to my readings feels right for many of them.


I think I'm gonna stay with this one for a while and see how it works out
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Just to revisit this re 50 (26 didn't make much sense to me to begin with in this context);

While I can definitely see where 'refinement' comes into 50, I would more likely identify it with more comprehensive processes, going from raw to processed - I think 50 talks more about the creation of new 'technologies', and their cultures while 22 is more specialized than this, as we already have an infrastructure in place and the question lies on perfecting it to achieve a certain goal . . In that sense, 'refinement' still feels a good fit for 22 and going back to my readings feels right for many of them.


I think I'm gonna stay with this one for a while and see how it works out
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Pull up a chair, stay as long as ya like. :)

26 - "Heaven in the center of the mountains: great accumulation." This is where I was coming from regarding mining for gold or diamonds, or knowledge buried there from the past.

50 deals with refinement. An example Brad likes to use refers to alchemy, which is a metaphor for turning our dross or lead into gold, our impure into pure. It's inner working that 50 deals mostly with. "The noble one corrects the situation to solidify fate."

For my question, I asked for an unchanging hexagram, no lines. Referring back to captions or titles.

My own answer would be any or all of the above. I like 36 too, from a different angle than I was considering. But I was mostly, as mentioned to Hilary, looking to reckon with her inordinate concern for retaining her youthful appearance. I take accountability for that lack of detail because it was part and partial of my conversation with her, which I'd failed to elaborate in my question to you.

To Lisa, I like the gist of your response, though I'm sure she resorts to sunscreen and other measures to forestall the loss of her youth, which is what I was digging for.
 

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No, advice to her over her extreme concern of showing her age. Maybe I should have been more specific.
Probably still 11.6. One of those 'can't put Humpty together again' lines, anyway... ;)

Oh, just seen you want an unchanging hexagram. Well, then, probably 11. Even on its own it has that 'life happens, do you think you're going to stop the river?' feel to it.
 

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Hex 22, maybe, in a few ways?

  • 22 in the sense of superficial concern with aging, which is, as Hilary points out in voting for hex 11, an unstoppable process whether we like it or not. (We can try flailing at a waterfall with teacups, but...).
  • 22 could mean sun hats as (usually) attractive adornments, or sunscreen as something you apply on the surface of yourself (to protect the surface of yourself).
  • Along the lines of what several people were talking about (will quote Rodaki, but I don't think she was the only one):

    What for us, humans, may be just a beautiful flower, is a vital part of an organism's proliferation...

    Concern over age spots may seem superficial and vain (and that's all it may be, in the case of the particular woman Sooo's talking about), but of course sun damage can be serious. While you're vainly protecting yourself from age spots, you are also reducing your chances of skin cancer etc.
 
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Pull up a chair, stay as long as ya like. :)

26 - "Heaven in the center of the mountains: great accumulation." This is where I was coming from regarding mining for gold or diamonds, or knowledge buried there from the past.

50 deals with refinement. An example Brad likes to use refers to alchemy, which is a metaphor for turning our dross or lead into gold, our impure into pure. It's inner working that 50 deals mostly with. "The noble one corrects the situation to solidify fate."

For my question, I asked for an unchanging hexagram, no lines. Referring back to captions or titles.

My own answer would be any or all of the above. I like 36 too, from a different angle than I was considering. But I was mostly, as mentioned to Hilary, looking to reckon with her inordinate concern for retaining her youthful appearance. I take accountability for that lack of detail because it was part and partial of my conversation with her, which I'd failed to elaborate in my question to you.


You got me thinking . . I like 26 for accumulated wealth as in repositories of precious metals and stones (say gold, or diamonds). Then I"d see 50 as knowing how to excavate and process such materials, 22 for creating out of them refined items, like an engagement ring. Same with my porcelain example: 26 as in the potential accumulated in mud, 50 as the perfecting of the processes that give us ceramic objects, 22 as creating porcelain items.

Another way to say this is that I see 50 more as obtaining/creating know-how and 22 as obtaining/creating a token of our acquired know-how. We don't have to agree on that, of course. I do enjoy the exchange though :)



About 36, it could also refer to her own inner state, being possibly hurt by an inner false belief, a kind of thought-tyrant that 'darkens' her thoughts, leading her to use 'tricks', putting on the 'crazy' hat to remain on the safe side, as in line 5 . . there's a metaphor somewhere there lurking, I think

so, are you gonna pose the question to Yi? Now I'm getting a bit curious to see what the answer would be after all our speculations here! . . Or have you done that already and you're teasing us all??
 

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22 is nearsighted in a sense that isn't pejorative, Shortsighted carries a more negative connotation. Nearsight only speaks of an ability to see the close-up more clearly than the far away. Near-sightedness happens to be very useful to a mountain goat climbing a cliff. It would be deadly to get distracted by all the great distant views until he got to the top.

Elsewhere is called Graceful movement. A fine-tuned, fluid motion.

Why don't you use the word one-pointedness instead of near-sighted ? Not only isn't pejorative but ,imo, closer to 22. The way you present it leaves a taste that one can't see clearly what is far. What if one Doesn't need to see something far but focus on what is close ?

Why the fire according to your pov is blocked and not deliberate is focused on the object needs its attention at the specific time. The choice is to put the object on the center , observe it, see it for all its angle, feel it, appreciate it, from its periphery to the nucleus . to let its energy get into or s/he get into that object.

if there is a superficially in 22 then its not about the object and its adornment. its about us who perhaps pass by without noticing. A fine painting its just a canvas with colors on it for us if we don't focus on it and see it, a great poem its just words printed on a paper for us if we don't read it , a beautiful flower has no colors or scents when we ignore it. When we don't attend to something its as if it doesn't exists in our world. To be salient it needs our attention and a clear mind. (22.6)
 
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Probably still 11.6. One of those 'can't put Humpty together again' lines, anyway... ;)

Oh, just seen you want an unchanging hexagram. Well, then, probably 11. Even on its own it has that 'life happens, do you think you're going to stop the river?' feel to it.

Ah, I get you better now. I have more work to do with understanding 11.

Guess it's old habit but I still get union, intercourse, heaven moving upward, earth moving downward, heaven on or in earth, and the Navajo corn deities, from 11.

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But I do get your drift with 11.6, I think, as when the corn dries up or ceases to yield the corn. Changes to 26, hmm. Kernels falling into the ground?

Lisa, I most certainly would not be surprised to receive 22 for this, for reasons you've mentioned. There's certainly an element of vanity involved (lends grace to his beard, or her face), for the adornment of her hat, and to protect her brain from frying in the desert sun, as well as the shade it provides for her eyes - those practical reasons that folks out here wear wide brimmed western hats in the first place.
 

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