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Agree and think that hexagram 19 Lin might be a good example:So nobody can tell me that 44 is a 'bad' hexagram. Besides, I think not one hexagram is 'bad'. Or 'good' for that matter. It depends what we do with it, how we respond. When someone warns you for a storm, you will not call the warning 'bad'. You're happy that you have been warned, so you can make things turn out well.
... while the preacher preaches the good news to all men from the pulpit, women are brutalized on television for sake of entertainment. It's ain't natural, Charly...
...Well, people know about earth wisdom, but I don't think many consider it as wisdom. Like the archaeologist I listened to the other night, explaining how termites have no intelligence, though they build 6 foot high housing units, complete with natural air conditioning, along with everything they need to survive as a species...
...The reason they possess no intelligence, he said, is because they don't think about the design before they build it, they just build it. But what the termite does sounds like earth wisdom to me...
The modern chinese peasant of course has his ant-proverbs. The usual chinese word for the ant... does not occur in the Changes. About twenty times, however, we find the character 孚 [fu], which is said to mean 'sincere' ...
A possible semantic history...
(1) the creature which carries its young (i.e.eggs) in its claws...
(2) true, reliable (because of the reliable character of the ant's weather prophecies);
(3) a guarantee of reliability...
(4) any captive of war;
(5) the moral meaning 'sincere' is a derivative of (2).
From: A.Waley: The Book of Changes at Bulletin of the Museum of Far Eastern Antiquities. Can be dowloaded from Biroco.
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Not sure were you get the meaning for "dog" but is not in any of my dictionaries. Let me know where to look for that meaning.
... It is my belief... that the lack of parsing in classical Chinese is a purposeful event meant to give the reader the opportunity to interpret a reading circumstantially and contextually...
Luis:
It is not a meaning for GOU4, but the character that appears in the Mawangdui manuscript:
狗 instead of 姤
About 10 years ago I wanted to cooperate with an artist to make Yijing stories. He had a great insight in the workings of the soul. I asked Yi about it and got 44. Not once, but many times during the two years that we worked on it together...
So nobody can tell me that 44 is a 'bad' hexagram. Besides, I think not one hexagram is 'bad'. Or 'good' for that matter....
Every bad hexagram has a favorable line usually and vice versa. 44:5 is the good line in this hexagram...
for example, if you worked in the World Trade Center hit by the terrorists on 9/11 and you asked a question about anything on 9/10 you probably would have gotten hexagram 44 because the influence of danger is so strong.
LOL its weird I have thrown 44 countless times in my life and I'm still alive !!
Mary:I wish it were so, Charly.
Of course, but if H.44 warnings you about danger, it is not so bad. You can (or cann't) take advantage.Never, never underestimate this hexagram and the danger that actually you are moving towards..
Five men, one woman, Why? (1). Yin is not equal to woman, yang is not equal to man. Moreover, is there any evidence of the woman's dubiuous character?...The idea that 5 men approach one woman of dubious character ...
... danger must be there somewhere and here it is.
I think part of the problem with this hexagram is that historically (although one cannot generalize for every dynasty or even every fortune teller) is that inauspicious readings were discarded.
(1) Luis, are you here? This remainds me that talking about a fat girl often is said «mucha carne para un solo perro!» («most flesh for only one dog!»)
(2) In my country slang dog is a non-legal fire weapon. Most old guns are horn handled.
(3) Lady's horn is not my idea, is from Wu Jing-Nuan (?)
Middaughter: this hexagram repeats and repeats itself until the danger arrives.
I agree with Chris, in my view hexagrams are beyond good and bad. If you search for both the good and bad in them, you will find both, but if you are determined on one of the two, you will find that one.Chris: EVERY hexagram is associatable with safety and life as it is with danger and death.
Campbell in conversation with Michael Toms. "An open life", page 51 (ISBN 0-06-097295-5)
Campbell: When you get down into the depths of mythology, forms are beyond good and evil. With the Indian deities—this is the wonderful thing about them—the upper right hand will say, "Fear not" and below it is the boon-bestowing hand; and the upper left will have a sword, and in the lower a recently amputated head. These are the two aspects of power, the two aspects of being. In our traditions—and this is true even all the way back to the Greeks—the beneficent and the malfeasant aspects of power tend to be separated and contrary entities.
Michael Toms: Is that when trouble arises?
Campbell: No, not necessarily—provided the two are in play with each other. But when one is impugned, as in our tradition where the powers of the deep are consigned to Hell . . . It's interesting that the symbols of Shiva and of Poseidon are exactly those that are given to the Devil in Christian mythology—the bull's foot and the tridents. So the power which is symbolized in those forms has been pushed aside as though it should not be admitted.
Mary:(1) would translate as ... 'so much flesh and only one dog to enjoy it'
(2) ... among African-Americans it means a man of bad character.
Mary:...Maybe a bit but remember we deal with ordinary human experience and some hexagrams lend themselves to being labeled good, say, 42 or 40 and bad, 44 and 23; while some are more neutral... I would not have known to disregard the diagnosis that nothing was wrong with me ... ending up in intensive care for a month... This was also scary but I knew what was going on and took the steps to live. Good? yes, but on the whole I would have rather been in Philadelphia.
"Better get a check-up" your wife say when you report a minor pain. "It's nothing" you think, and forget about it. Three months later you suddenly turn white, fall on the floor and begin writhing in pain.
Your remmarks are not appealing to the other side. The better way is to change them.
Better to foresee than to treat. Experience ever arrive later.... to divinate is lucky ... to observe, unlucky...
(I have not the chinese at hand, I promise to post assap)
And that sums it up perfectly. These were Mary's readings, meeting Mary's intuitive understanding. It doesn't follow that everyone who receives Hexagram 44 is in mortal peril.Charly said:You have had a bad experience with H.44. I understand you. For other people H.44 can be good, not for you.
I agree with Chris, in my view hexagrams are beyond good and bad. If you search for both the good and bad in them, you will find both, but if you are determined on one of the two, you will find that one.
LiSe
And that 23 indicates something is being taken from us, and all we can do is undergo the process. (And again.)
As to whether these are bad or good, that depends on how attached we were to the regular way of life, or to whatever is taken away. By and large, for most ordinary people, 23 will most likely be a horrible experience. But the Image shows it doesn't have to be horrible or violent...
May be GOU means...
1) Princess or Ancestral Lady,
2) Dog (male dog, I think),
3) Meeting,
4) Copulating ...
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